Am i the only one who loves Fable 3 and anything else Lionhead and Peter have made?

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Chairman Miaow

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weker said:
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weker said:
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All in all, the graphics were the worst offenders. Nauseating and vomiting, that motion blur + glow. Also, no grey moral area like they told me I'd experience.
Um the king part was where the moral grey area was, as you had to weigh the risk of living standerds and risk of everyone getting killed
Uh, no.

Fable III had the arbitary system of "Either give away money and keep people happy but let them all killed. Or "hoard the money to save them for an invasion but be called a tyrant."

Of course you can invest your personal wealth but this is clearly just "Good/Evil". There is no option to tell your people "A blight is coming in the next year, please bear with me for a year and then I will fulfil every promise I made"

Also, the NPC's all look the same and generic kind, no personal attachment.
Your doing bad to do good I would call this moral gray area
but it's not even a choice. Being a tyrant to save the kingdom is undeniably good, and being a nice guy and letting everyone die is undeniably retarded.
 

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Straying Bullet said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
All in all, the graphics were the worst offenders. Nauseating and vomiting, that motion blur + glow. Also, no grey moral area like they told me I'd experience.
Um the king part was where the moral grey area was, as you had to weigh the risk of living standerds and risk of everyone getting killed
Uh, no.

Fable III had the arbitary system of "Either give away money and keep people happy but let them all killed. Or "hoard the money to save them for an invasion but be called a tyrant."

Of course you can invest your personal wealth but this is clearly just "Good/Evil". There is no option to tell your people "A blight is coming in the next year, please bear with me for a year and then I will fulfil every promise I made"

Also, the NPC's all look the same and generic kind, no personal attachment.
Agreed. It just seemed so shallow. They could have taken a few notes from The Witcher, Dragon Age: Origins, and Fallout: New Vegas. And that is just from recent years. Grey areas can be done and more than one solution presented in a problem. The way Real Estate could easily break the king's section was hilarious.
Edit: Also, how did you get three days and he only got one?
 

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Eh, I had plenty of fun but also plenty of bile considering a lot of things were dumbed down and weakened from Fable 2. Also, the inherited weapon that a lot of people, at least my friend and I, did all sorts of shit we didn't want to do just to get a special look ended up being the weakest of the weak weapons in the shed.

So much for the ancestral weapon... I'd rather have the augment system from Knothole Island, that was awesome.
 

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Chairman Miaow said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
All in all, the graphics were the worst offenders. Nauseating and vomiting, that motion blur + glow. Also, no grey moral area like they told me I'd experience.
Um the king part was where the moral grey area was, as you had to weigh the risk of living standerds and risk of everyone getting killed
Uh, no.

Fable III had the arbitary system of "Either give away money and keep people happy but let them all killed. Or "hoard the money to save them for an invasion but be called a tyrant."

Of course you can invest your personal wealth but this is clearly just "Good/Evil". There is no option to tell your people "A blight is coming in the next year, please bear with me for a year and then I will fulfil every promise I made"

Also, the NPC's all look the same and generic kind, no personal attachment.
Your doing bad to do good I would call this moral gray area
but it's not even a choice. Being a tyrant to save the kingdom is undeniably good, and being a nice guy and letting everyone die is undeniably retarded.
And what you just described was how you would interact with it and I find both valid choices making it morally grey
 

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weker said:
Chairman Miaow said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
All in all, the graphics were the worst offenders. Nauseating and vomiting, that motion blur + glow. Also, no grey moral area like they told me I'd experience.
Um the king part was where the moral grey area was, as you had to weigh the risk of living standerds and risk of everyone getting killed
Uh, no.

Fable III had the arbitary system of "Either give away money and keep people happy but let them all killed. Or "hoard the money to save them for an invasion but be called a tyrant."

Of course you can invest your personal wealth but this is clearly just "Good/Evil". There is no option to tell your people "A blight is coming in the next year, please bear with me for a year and then I will fulfil every promise I made"

Also, the NPC's all look the same and generic kind, no personal attachment.
Your doing bad to do good I would call this moral gray area
but it's not even a choice. Being a tyrant to save the kingdom is undeniably good, and being a nice guy and letting everyone die is undeniably retarded.
And what you just described was how you would interact with it and I find both valid choices making it morally grey
How is letting everybody die because you don't want to feel bad a valid choice?
 

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Chairman Miaow said:
weker said:
Chairman Miaow said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
All in all, the graphics were the worst offenders. Nauseating and vomiting, that motion blur + glow. Also, no grey moral area like they told me I'd experience.
Um the king part was where the moral grey area was, as you had to weigh the risk of living standerds and risk of everyone getting killed
Uh, no.

Fable III had the arbitary system of "Either give away money and keep people happy but let them all killed. Or "hoard the money to save them for an invasion but be called a tyrant."

Of course you can invest your personal wealth but this is clearly just "Good/Evil". There is no option to tell your people "A blight is coming in the next year, please bear with me for a year and then I will fulfil every promise I made"

Also, the NPC's all look the same and generic kind, no personal attachment.
Your doing bad to do good I would call this moral gray area
but it's not even a choice. Being a tyrant to save the kingdom is undeniably good, and being a nice guy and letting everyone die is undeniably retarded.
And what you just described was how you would interact with it and I find both valid choices making it morally grey
How is letting everybody die because you don't want to feel bad a valid choice?
your putting your moral opinion to much in the stopping you from calling something morally grey, me being able to debate which one is a good shows its morally grey.
 

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I sure hope you are because all those games suck so much balls
except fable 1 of course :D
 

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weker said:
Chairman Miaow said:
weker said:
Chairman Miaow said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
weker said:
Straying Bullet said:
All in all, the graphics were the worst offenders. Nauseating and vomiting, that motion blur + glow. Also, no grey moral area like they told me I'd experience.
Um the king part was where the moral grey area was, as you had to weigh the risk of living standerds and risk of everyone getting killed
Uh, no.

Fable III had the arbitary system of "Either give away money and keep people happy but let them all killed. Or "hoard the money to save them for an invasion but be called a tyrant."

Of course you can invest your personal wealth but this is clearly just "Good/Evil". There is no option to tell your people "A blight is coming in the next year, please bear with me for a year and then I will fulfil every promise I made"

Also, the NPC's all look the same and generic kind, no personal attachment.
Your doing bad to do good I would call this moral gray area
but it's not even a choice. Being a tyrant to save the kingdom is undeniably good, and being a nice guy and letting everyone die is undeniably retarded.
And what you just described was how you would interact with it and I find both valid choices making it morally grey
How is letting everybody die because you don't want to feel bad a valid choice?
your putting your moral opinion to much in the stopping you from calling something morally grey, me being able to debate which one is a good shows its morally grey.
By that logic I could argue that any decision is morally grey. Any decision where you sacrifice a few million lives for a years relative happiness is either evil or stupid.
 

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Fable 3 was an interesting game, but one that was nowhere near as good as fable 2

For me fable 3 was one of those games i played all the way through because I bought it not because i was enjoying myself, the game breaking glitches I ran into on the main questline, combined with a story that I frankly didnt give a shit about, made Fable 3 a grind to finish not a quest to see what comes next.

Fable 2 on the other hand had a very good buildup between you and your sister, which gave me real desire to get revenge, it also was able to show you the impact of your choices through the storyline jumps, make old town a den of evil? if so its a crime ridden cesspool later in the game.

That being said both games have their issues, while being VERY user friendly, the combat system lacks the easy to use difficult to master aspects seen in many other 3rd person combat games (my biggest beef is how i can hack and slash with a sword for 8-10 hits on a guy or just stand back an unload my gun into his face and not get hit and avoid every attack by rolling away...or how magic is stupidly powerful)

Additionally the game has massive system resource issues, meaning, if i bloody install a game to my hard drive i expect it to run at least a LITTLE more smooth. This issue more than most really started to get on my nerves, it seemed randomly throughout the game my system would just drop to a snails speed, walking through town, fighting a pack of wolves, walking into a shop, it was never ever in the same place twice and that just seems like sloppy design. At least in Dragon Age Origins my system didnt gum up even tho the graphic quality was sad-tastic.

Finally the achievements, i know many people will say "thats not something a game should be held up against" but seriously making achievements that are UNOBTAINABLE without either a friend giving you items from multiple playthroughs or plodding through shuffling items from your characters to a friends then back to whatever character you need to collect your 40 unique weapons of which only 24 show up in each playthrough...this made me more angry than even my game bugging and not being able to advance the main storyline. I am a completionist and if the only way I can complete a game to 100% achievement is to either hope for the best intentions of random multiplayer individuals, or have a friend that has the game as well willing to burn up their own time to help me out. UGH

TLDR - Fable 2 was fun, Fable 3 was a grind, both could use some tweaking for sure.
 

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I do like the Fable series, but as much as I loved Fable 3, I gave up with it in the end due to the sheer amount of bugs and glitches me and my friend encountered when playing it, at one point we had to restart the entire game from the beginning.

I would love a new Black and White, perhaps one on a console as my computer can barely run Black and White 2 as is.
 

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Chairman Miaow said:
By that logic I could argue that any decision is morally grey.
yes you can argue that.

Chairman Miaow said:
Any decision where you sacrifice a few million lives for a years relative happiness is either evil or stupid.
Personally depending on the numbers I would be willing to let people die for the well being of others depending of the severity of both factors.
 

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Creator002 said:
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Yes there is a lot of flaws, but i absolutely adore about anything that Peter have made...
Can we buy a house together and be best friends forever? Pleeeaaaase?

The only original Xbox game I have (that I play, my sister plays the others) is Fable: TLC. I also have the Limited Collector's editions of Fable 2 and 3. I have Fable: TLC on PC as well (mainly for modding) and The Movies.
I have yet to play Black and White. I've been looking for them, on and off, for two years. EB and Game never seem to have them in stock when I come in (just like Shadow of the Collosus).

So, I guess I can say, I like Lionhead's games, but I do admit that since Fable 2, there have been quite a few mistakes in the series. Hell, Fable: TLC isn't perfect, but it's my favorite of the three (and probably my favorite game to date, but it's hard to know).
Well why not XD
On to find a house then XD
 

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I loved Fable 3. I see it's flaws, but I cannot get past the fact that I genuinely enjoyed the game and it's moral choices. Sure, any moral grey area in the game didn't have it's own meter or affect on anything, but it was still there and while I was pulled into the immersing role play elements, I bought it and moved on. It's still an old favourite for me.
 

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I like The Movies and the first Fable, the other Fables were good too, people talk like they were terrible but they were still fun.

Never played Black and White so cant comment on those.
 

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I think the problem with Fable 3, and with other Lionhead games, is that they always fall short of the hype. It's like Peter is bragging that he's got a massive dong and he's going to make love to you all night and you'll love it. In reality he's got a tiny penis, and he doesn't last that long. Not only that but every time he f**ks you his c**k is shorter and he comes 30 seconds earlier. But at the end of the day you still got laid, right?

That's what Fable has felt like to me. It's brilliant while it lasts, but the bragging and lack of delivery gets worse each time. Could you imagine what it would be like if Fable 3, with its ease of playing, decent mechanics and quality of voice acting, had the depth of something like Oblivion?
 

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Dungeon Keeper I and II. I love 'em.

Black and White. I love it. Not played BandW II despite it collecting dust on my shelf for the last two years.

I've never played a Fable game, but I'm hoping to get III when it finally comes out for the PC.

I guess I just like the idea of ruling over things. Despite how phenomenally bad the games are cited to be.
 

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Andreas55k said:
Am i the only one who loves Fable 3 and anything else Lionhead and Peter have made?
Yes, and you are an abomination for loving so.

Be weary now, Infidel! For now you must be purged by the right hand of Gamer righteousness.


...

Sorry, that turned out more hammier than it sounded in my head....Oh well!

=P
 

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I love Peter Molyneaux and everything he's done. He never fulfills all of his promises, but I can't actually fault him for that; as far as I can tell, he never intentionally over-hypes a game, it's just that it's impossible to fit everything he actually wants into a single game. I always have a mental image of him looking like a heartbroken chid child while programmers tell him what has to be cut from a game.
 

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No, you aren't the only one. Your never the only one who thinks anything, stop engaging in silly hyperbole.

I've never been in to Fable, it just seems like a very clumsy RPG to me, and it's made worse by how tall Peter's promises are when he makes them. There's nothing wrong with upselling your game a bit, but out and out lying is different.
 

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Only played the Fables, I hated the endings of both 2 and 3. Their servicable games and all. I don't really care for any of the stories because they do seem pretty shallow to me, and I don't give a crap for any of the NPC's except for Reaver, I frackin hate Reaver and want him to die in a pile of bile and throw up. I agree with Yahtzee that the game seems disjointed. Reading this back its surprising that I like the games. I'm like a battered wife coming back for more. I guess I just need to get my sword hacking quota on through Fable :).