AMD to nVidia: Put Up or Shut Up

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Realitycrash

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Pointless contest. Who buys such a card anyway?

Best bang/buck in the upper mainstream and the cheapest high end ranges is the only thing that matters.
Recent games will run fast on high detail on high end cards from 2 generations back and mainstream cards of this gen.
Several of my friends.
I like to spend my money on tattoos, they like to spend their money on computers. My peen is in my ink, their peen is in their hyped up jumbojet-computers.
 

TheMadJack

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AMD can suck gonads all day long.

They were caught cheating by tweaking their drivers for all those benchmark software and now they want us to believe they've cleaned-up their act, became honest to goodness, no cheating we swear, hardware developer/device drivers coders?

Ha!

The sad thing is I used to love AMD/ATI back when they were Canadians. But my love for them diminished at the speed of their failed drivers, which is to say, faster than light. Since then I've turned my back on them. I only laugh when I hear their name. Cheaters, manipulators and bloated device drivers writers is what they have become. I couldn't care less for the speed their hardware is going at. Chances are, they've found a new way to fix the results. Even if their hardware is faster, 1) what's 3 FPS more really? 2) Cheats and lies are things I won't accept from friends, do you really think I'll accept that from "strangers".

You both (nVidia AND ATI back in the day) broke my trust once and I forgave you, but ATI continued their little scheming behind closed doors. ATI, you won't ever have the opportunity to play with me a third time.
 

WilliamRLBaker

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TheMadJack said:
AMD can suck gonads all day long.

They were caught cheating by tweaking their drivers for all those benchmark software and now they want us to believe they've cleaned-up their act, became honest to goodness, no cheating we swear, hardware developer/device drivers coders?

Ha!

The sad thing is I used to love AMD/ATI back when they were Canadians. But my love for them diminished at the speed of their failed drivers, which is to say, faster than light. Since then I've turned my back on them. I only laugh when I hear their name. Cheaters, manipulators and bloated device drivers writers is what they have become. I couldn't care less for the speed their hardware is going at. Chances are, they've found a new way to fix the results. Even if their hardware is faster, 1) what's 3 FPS more really? 2) Cheats and lies are things I won't accept from friends, do you really think I'll accept that from "strangers".

You both (nVidia AND ATI back in the day) broke my trust once and I forgave you, but ATI continued their little scheming behind closed doors. ATI, you won't ever have the opportunity to play with me a third time.
um actually if you search nvidia cheating via bing or google nvidia still cheats...
 

dragongit

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As long as they don't run games that have PhysX, those are directly designed for nVidia cards and require seperate processing for outside cards. So no Metro 2033.

Really PhsyX is nVidias gimic to their card. Perhaps without it, theyw ill either run relativly the same, or even ATI may come out on top. I currently own an ATI card 5850, which apparently runs faster on its own without PhysX as its compeditor, the GTX 460.
 

TheMadJack

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TheMadJack said:
AMD can suck gonads all day long.

They were caught cheating by tweaking their drivers for all those benchmark software and now they want us to believe they've cleaned-up their act, became honest to goodness, no cheating we swear, hardware developer/device drivers coders?

Ha!

The sad thing is I used to love AMD/ATI back when they were Canadians. But my love for them diminished at the speed of their failed drivers, which is to say, faster than light. Since then I've turned my back on them. I only laugh when I hear their name. Cheaters, manipulators and bloated device drivers writers is what they have become. I couldn't care less for the speed their hardware is going at. Chances are, they've found a new way to fix the results. Even if their hardware is faster, 1) what's 3 FPS more really? 2) Cheats and lies are things I won't accept from friends, do you really think I'll accept that from "strangers".

You both (nVidia AND ATI back in the day) broke my trust once and I forgave you, but ATI continued their little scheming behind closed doors. ATI, you won't ever have the opportunity to play with me a third time.
Err, these are third-party benchmark results we're talking about here, not in-house testing. And FYI, both AMD and Nvidia drives blow donkey nuts.
I know what benchmarks are.

ATI wrote special tweakings in the drivers when they detected certain benchmark software were running. What those "tweakings" did was change settings on the fly to push their results higher. nVidia discovered that scheme but kept its mouth shut until it was discovered and made public by another third party. At which point, they disclosed their findings.
 

Natdaprat

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We need the Guinness World Record guys here pronto! Oh, what's that? They don't bother with technology because it CHANGES EVERY FEW WEEKS?! Bullshit.
 

Cyrax987

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Who really cares? I mean until the consoles get updated to the newer version like Xbox 720, were not going to see graphical enhancements on the PC. Consoles are holding back what any of these GPUs can really do because every game on the PC is Multi-Platform pretty much. I will say yes we still get higher graphics on those games with like Direct X 11 but nothing major like what these developers spout about their graphics card.

The GTX 580 alone is way above the current generation graphics but here we are using it for games such as Call of Duty Black Ops. The rivalry is nice to have but seriously? I'll stick to my GTX 460 considering it runs everything on high still because graphics won't go anywhere till we get a new damn console to handle it.
 

Retardinator

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So what the hell does this mean if you can run most games well on a 4-year-old graphics card?
Or if you feel the need to max out everything, a year-old will suffice?
 

Antwerp Caveman

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http://tweakers.net/reviews/2069/5/strijd-der-titanen-gtx-590-versus-hd-6990-3dmark-11-vantage-en-unigine.html

dutch site but the benchmarks on their testsystem are perfectly readable)

Yeah!! Big TV ad battle :p
 

sulld1

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Ace i love stuff like this, should be good to see how it plays out and yeah, we as the customers win overall... more graphics for us!
 

CosmicCommander

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Better question- who is willing to pay £500 for some tech that only marginally performs better (in real terms) over it's apparently "outdated" predecessors?

Nvidia and AMD are getting nervous- graphics on the PC are plateauing, and people are moving over to consoles, depriving them of a big money milker. So they just treat every card as if it's revolutionary, despite no real person being able to notice or care about any difference.

PS: Who the fuck does SLI or that Crossfire thing, anyway? Why would you need 2 cards, unless your monitor was the size of a shed?
 

antipunt

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catfights and fights at school, I can do without.

But fights like -this-? *grabs popcorn*
 

Wolfram23

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The 590 is a flop. They're literally blowing up.


They're blowing up even at stock settings
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforo.noticias3d.com%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowpost.php%3Fp%3D3960849%26postcount%3D352%27

The newest Nvidia driver actually drops the clocks even further, so it's nowhere as fast as a 6990.