America calls England's NHS service "evil" after Obama's latest proposal to change healthcare system

[mayney93]

can we swear on this coz if we could america GO F**K YRSELF I LIVE IN THE UK AND WILL be traingin to be a doctor for them U ARE THE ONLY WESTERN COUNTRY LEFT TO NOT HAVE A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM think about it you are the idiots not us your country is the one wiht the drug, wirght and alcohol problems not ours so as i said before GO F**K YRSELF

ps im talking to all the ones who think they are the all knowing nation and if ppl dont follow them then theyre weird uhuh other way round i think america is the weird one

 

[khaimera]

In America this is what happens when you have a two party system. Winning and being right always takes precendence over what is best for the country. Republicans can't support democratic ideas simply becuase they come from democrats.

 

[khaimera]

can we swear on this coz if we could america GO F**K YRSELF I LIVE IN THE UK AND WILL be traingin to be a doctor for them U ARE THE ONLY WESTERN COUNTRY LEFT TO NOT HAVE A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM think about it you are the idiots not us your country is the one wiht the drug, wirght and alcohol problems not ours so as i said before GO F**K YRSELF

ps im talking to all the ones who think they are the all knowing nation and if ppl dont follow them then theyre weird uhuh other way round i think america is the weird one

Well said and well written. Excuse me while I choke on my own sarcasm.

 

[Doctor Glocktor]

Honestly, who else but America?

 

[Jark212]

So, after waking up today, sipping some coffee and knocking out some TV, I had a look at Sky News. One story caught my eye.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/11/nhs-united-states-republican-health

American higher-ups critized England's NHS service after Obama put foward a proposal to change America's healthcare system, giving free healthcare to uninsured people in the US. The story above reads "Top-ranking Republicans have joined bloggers and well-funded free market organisations in scorning the NHS".

Seriously? Do they think they're big men, picking on the NHS because they can't fight back?

Well, apparently, England had fought back. Twitter users flocked to webpages on the site, calling out American diplomats, defending the NHS, Sky reports.

What are your views on this? For one, I think the American diplomats were well out of line attacking the NHS. Their accusations are ludicrous and outright offensive, and also undeserved. I don't see what the NHS did to provoke this.

When your referring to right-winged conservatives that only represent less than 25% of America don't say "America" hates so-n-so.
These small-minded idiots do not represent America.

 

[Joshimodo]

Oh no! Universal healthcare! This means that the peasants receive the same benefits as us lazy family-money based politicians!

 

[Mordwyl]

John Q.

 

[The Mighty Admiral SEAMAN]

why attack the NHS its done england proud over the past century, free healthcare is a great idea, an example of this was my old history teacher moved to the states in 2008 and had a bad cold and a weeks worth of antibiotics cost her $100 because she wasn't insured!

 

[jamesworkshop]

What a naughty NHS we Britians have tempting the president to provide free healthcare to the people that voted for him.

 

[Cocamaster]

It's a shame that those who dare call themselves pro-life contest health care.

Do be fair, they are not contesting health care; they are contesting the Democratic Party's Health Care Reform Plan.

Everyone in the U.S. Congress agrees that their health care system needs to change, they just don't seem to agree in "how".

My father always told me that the best way to give weight to one's argument is to respect your opponent and understand their argument as best as you possibly can, even if they don't offer you the same courtesy.

 

[Cocamaster]

Well unless you have a private healthcare that uses it's own emergency number and own ambulances then I say socialised healthcare is the best option.

I think we are reffering to different things.

What I understand for "socialized healthcare" is a system where the government manages insurance in exclusivity and decides what services its citizens recieve.

What I think you mean, and correct me if I'm wrong, would be "public healthcare", where everyone recieves insurance and services, regardless of their tax paying status.

The government's involvemnt in the first one is total; on the second one, it should be limited to taxation and arbitration.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

It's a shame that those who dare call themselves pro-life contest health care.

Do be fair, they are not contesting health care; they are contesting the Democratic Party's Health Care Reform Plan.

Everyone in the U.S. Congress agrees that their health care system needs to change, they just don't seem to agree in "how".

My father always told me that the best way to give weight to one's argument is to respect your opponent and understand their argument as best as you possibly can, even if they don't offer you the same courtesy.

A shame your father never stood for office. I'd have voted for him.

 

[antipunt]

So, after waking up today, sipping some coffee and knocking out some TV, I had a look at Sky News. One story caught my eye.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/11/nhs-united-states-republican-health

American higher-ups critized England's NHS service after Obama put foward a proposal to change America's healthcare system, giving free healthcare to uninsured people in the US. The story above reads "Top-ranking Republicans have joined bloggers and well-funded free market organisations in scorning the NHS".

Seriously? Do they think they're big men, picking on the NHS because they can't fight back?

Well, apparently, England had fought back. Twitter users flocked to webpages on the site, calling out American diplomats, defending the NHS, Sky reports.

What are your views on this? For one, I think the American diplomats were well out of line attacking the NHS. Their accusations are ludicrous and outright offensive, and also undeserved. I don't see what the NHS did to provoke this.

So do I, but can you edit it to Republican, as the non-Republicans are innocent.

I agree with this. Not because I "love my country so much" or whatever, but because tossing the "Conservative Republicans" with everyone else in the US is just maddening. My friends and I are all American, and really, we're against virtually everything they stand for. (haha)

 

[internutt]

I don't know why Republicans hate the NHS so much. Its stupid. Unless of course they are being funded by the insurance companies that rely on the big bucks Healthcare makes in the US.

I find that appalling really. The NHS can be slow at times, but its good to know that if myself or anyone else in my family get seriously ill then they can get treatment as soon as possible.

Its better to wait in line for treatment by simply paying taxes, rather than being forced to pay a few grand(that's thousands for any non UKers) when you really can not afford it. NHS rules.

 

[Cocamaster]

I don't know why Republicans hate the NHS so much. Its stupid. Unless of course they are being funded by the insurance companies that rely on the big bucks Healthcare makes in the US.

Again, just trying to be fair, but for what I understand republican people (not the political class, but the actual people) are afraid the government would be getting more involved in their healthcare. It's got nothing to do with the corporations and everything to do with people's expectations of their own government.

Some people just don't trust the federal government and want to see them running as few things as possible.

Ideologically, republicans favor less federal government involvement in their everyday lives and more small, localized government; in other words a small government with small spending. They believe you should have the right to choose your own options in services instead them being imposed by government.

Democrats tend to favor more government involvement in general, and want that government to spend most if not all it's resources on their people, so they also tend to favor more taxation and more socialization of services so that everyone has access to them.

 

[ThisWasAWaste]

I can't even think of a word to describe the kind of coverage that the healthcare issue has gotten here in the US. Most of those that oppose it don't want to sit down at a table and intelligently discuss the issue, they just want to scream as loudly as they can whatever made-up shit they want to until people start believing it (and somehow some people do). As one of the people the healthcare bill would affect a lot of the pundits on TV are pretty offensive to me with the way the baselessly attack it. They haven't even drafted the entire thing yet (to my understanding of the issue).

 

[easyace]

Wow. Where to start?
First off nothing is free. Somebody has to pay. You can't insure 15 million more people, lower the cost and keep the quality. The math just doesn't add up. Call me paranoid, but it's more than a little disturbing the way the government has been grabbing power. (yes this includes Bush)
Let's just assume everything goes well at first. It's only a matter of time before people take advantage of the system. If you have a system that handles $1 trillion then who's going to notice a million or two missing?
So that's my take on the subject. Oh by the way if I found myself between the Republicans and the Democrats then I'd attack in both directions. Neither party is trust worthy.

 

[Shoqiyqa]

I don't see what the NHS did to provoke this.

Probably treated some unemployed guy who didn't own an SUV.