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Bara_no_Hime

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DementedSheep said:
So if you don't want to replay the first chapter don't bother. Just load a save before you picked a side.
you might want to load a save before the Triss/Saskia choice too so you can see how that pans out.
Well, if I pick up before the Iorveth/Roche choice, I can later choose the change the Triss/Saskia choice in that same playthrough.

I'd go after the kingslayer instead of Triss, then save Saskia instead of Triss - it actually makes more RP sense that way. Obviously that version of Geralt is holding out for Yen.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
DementedSheep said:
So if you don't want to replay the first chapter don't bother. Just load a save before you picked a side.
you might want to load a save before the Triss/Saskia choice too so you can see how that pans out.
Well, if I pick up before the Iorveth/Roche choice, I can later choose the change the Triss/Saskia choice in that same playthrough.

I'd go after the kingslayer instead of Triss, then save Saskia instead of Triss - it actually makes more RP sense that way. Obviously that version of Geralt is holding out for Yen.
You can't. The Triss/ Saskia choice is only on Iorveths path. There is similar type of choice on Roches but it doesn't involved Saskia. You don't even find out Saskia is a dragon or mind controlled on Roches path (so that quite a surprise if you did that first and killed her lol). They cover different aspects of the plot. Roches path is more about the king slayers and politics involving the big nations rather than the lodge and non humans.
 

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DementedSheep said:
So if you don't want to replay the first chapter don't bother. Just load a save before you picked a side.
you might want to load a save before the Triss/Saskia choice too so you can see how that pans out.
Well, if I pick up before the Iorveth/Roche choice, I can later choose the change the Triss/Saskia choice in that same playthrough.

I'd go after the kingslayer instead of Triss, then save Saskia instead of Triss - it actually makes more RP sense that way. Obviously that version of Geralt is holding out for Yen.
Saskia isn't really in the Roche path. I mean she shows up a couple times, but she's not a major player. Chapter 3 has a different set of choices you have to make.
 

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Okay then - I guess I'll have to ALSO go back and play Saskia's path. :p

Actually, logically, I should do that one first, while I'm still working on the current path. IE, I should finish this play-through, then backup and do Saskia's rescue and what follows until the paths converge again.

Then I should do the Roche path.

And, at some point, I should go back and play the Witcher 1 again and do the Order path.
 

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You know, you got me thinking. I've played the first game about 6 or 7 times, and I've NEVER gone Neutral. Ever. I am planning on reading the books, and playing both games closer to Witcher 3's release, so I can re-experience it all in one continuous go, so I guess I'll go Neutral then.

Regarding Witcher 2, I'd say playthrough it all again when you wish to experience Iorveth's path. There are plenty of things you can do differently that effect small things in the future. For example, Aryan la Valette, the leader of the Rebels at the start of the game whom you dueled? You can convince him to lay down his sword and he lives. Things like that can be worth a 2nd or more playthroughs.
 

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Update: Chapter 3 Ends and Epilogue

And here we go.

So, I meet Triss. She asks me to get past the guards. I try to sneek around (and meet a woman who offers to grow a beard for 200 gold) but the quest updates and says "kill the guards" so I go kill the guards. In the most hilarious fashion possible.

See, I took that Deflect Arrows ability in the Training tree. So, I agroed the guards, but did not approach. They kept shooting at me with crossbows - and dealing no damage because Geralt would deflect the arrows. I, meanwhile, have 7 points of Vitality (with my +1 vitality sword drawn) so I just stood back and slowly Igni-ed them both to death. It was wonderfully stupid and it made me laugh. Win.

Triss shakes her head and Geralt's passive-aggressive murder and they head in. Within, the meeting is in full swing. Saskia is there and gets proclaimed Queen. Awesome! Ranovid doesn't want to acknowledge her. Can I stab him? Pretty please? I bet Adda would be willing to recognize Saskia if I made her the ruler of Redania.

Triss decides this is a good time to rat out Sile. Unfortunately, since Sile is currently controlling Saskia, Saskia sneaks off, turns into a dragon, and wrecks shit up, letting Sile escape and trapping Triss. Guess it's up to Geralt to save the day....

So I start climbing the tower. And... I get killed by a collapsing floor. Twice.

How do I beat the collapsing floor?

By realizing that I am IMMUNE TO DRAGON FIRE! Yes, my +133% vs Incineration means that Geralt takes no damage from the flame breath! I can walk right through it and Geralt grunts, but takes no damage. Win!

So, no longer pausing for dragon fire, I easily run up the stairs before they collapse and face Sile. And she teleports away - but there's something wrong! She asks me to... do something? I click on something and suddenly everything's okay and she teleports away successfully. Um... crap? Did I just save her accidentally? Shit.

Anyway, Saskia the Dragon shows up and I continue to be immune to dragon fire. So screw it, I walk up and start wailing on her face. There doesn't seem to be a negotiate option. Also, Quen proves to be very helpful in this fight.

Eventually she gets peeved and flies away. And the game autosaves and leaves me standing on a thin wall. It takes me a few minutes to realize the game wants me to climb UP rather than down.

On the top - more dragon bossfight! Rince, repeat. More Quen. And then - cut scene. Geralt gets to ride Saskia!

**rimshot**

And ride her he does, until Saskia crashes into the woods and IMPALES HERSELF! Shit! Geralt then gets to make a choice, kill her or not. I choose not - Geralt doesn't kill Dragons, and even if Sile and Phillipa are alive ATM, Saskia has a much longer life span than either of them.

There's another cut scene - fighting in Loc Mo-whatever. Phillipa is alive, and stumbling blindly about. Two soldiers see her and... oh my, this is going to go badly isn't -- HOLY SHIT, Phillipa just burnt them alive! Nice! ... wait, why can't she just use a spell to navigate? Instead of stumbling around. If her hearing is that good (magically augmented) then couldn't she use some sort of echo-location spell? Or, maybe, a HEALING SPELL on her eyes? No? Fine.

Epilogue

Geralt meets up with Triss and she has a message from Letho. Time to go see him. I head through the ruins (avoiding weird green plant tentacles for some reason???) and bump into Iorveth on a cart guarded by some soldiers. I attempt to talk to them, but can't, so instead I kill them. Triss is like "um, what was that about?" and I explain that I'm helping Ivo there escape. And could Triss heal him maybe? And stay with him while I kill Letho? Thanks.

I loot the guards (pointless, I know) and find... Phillipa's dagger? A quest item. Um... okay?

Anyway, confused and wondering what that is for, I go to see Letho (with no further anything, so I'm not sure what that dagger is for). He's sitting around waiting for me. I question him on the plot and learn that Geralt traded himself to the Hunt to get Yennifer back, that she's got amnesia, and that Letho et al were keeping an eye on her in Milfguard. And then they got caught. Yen is being held by Milfguard, while Letho got dispatched to murder the northern kings and cause chaos. And how he was planning to frame Sile before she hired him to do what he was planning to frame her for. Ha!

Yeah, I kinda wish I hadn't accidentally saved her.

Anyway, all that's nice, but it's time for that duel. We each take a swig of vodka, and then it begins.

It turns rapidly into a game of who casts Aard faster. He knocks me down, then casts Quen while I'm on my butt. I wait until his spell wears off, then knock him down and wail on him while he's defenseless. Once, we cast Aard at the same time and both went flying - it was pretty funny, actually, in a frustrating sort of way. Also, half the time, instead of falling down, he just sort of stumbles for a moment and I can only get one or two hits in. Jerk.

I'm glad I had all that practice knocking over spellcasters, because it came in handy during this fight (particularly since I couldn't pin him in a corner this time).

Anyway, eventually cut scene activates and I kill Letho. Triss shows up and we head out. Geralt pauses to look at a lady but before opening the door and walking off with Triss.

Aftermath - Flotsam gets sold, Vergen is free (and happy), and Temeria gets torn in half by Adda's Husband and King Asshole. So I guess Adda got her kingdom back after all (or half of it anyway). Good for her.

End credits. They go on FOREVER. Damn.

And post credit video - some rabbit hunter almost gets trampled. He returns home and holy crap Milfguard is invading. Yeah, we kinda knew that already. Still, the map being swallowed up by them is quite impressive.

The End.

And there we have it.

I will add some musings later. Also, I will reload a save and do Saskia's path really quick just to see how that's different.

I may or may not do Roach's path immediately. We'll see.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
So why not have Letho capture Dandelion and hold a sword to his throat, demanding that Triss make him a portal and taking Dandelion with him while Triss joins up with Geralt? As far as I can tell, it wouldn't have a significant effect on the plot (aside from the Rose of Remembrance being a plot point, which could be easily corrected by Letho taking her pack as well).
Actually, no, there is a reason why Dandelion being taken as a hostage would not work with the plot that the game has right now. The Lodge of Sorceresses is important to the events of Witcher 2, and so is Triss' involvement with them. Triss got captured and interrogated because Nilfgaardians want solid information about The Lodge so they'll work better as scapegoats

Dandelion gets taken? Well, Letho might as well drag around dead weight. Triss is valuable.

Bara_no_Hime said:
She asks me to... do something? I click on something and suddenly everything's okay and she teleports away successfully. Um... crap? Did I just save her accidentally? Shit.
Yeah, you kinda saved her. For the moment anyway, since Síle's a wanted woman now.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
So, no longer pausing for dragon fire, I easily run up the stairs before they collapse and face Sile. And she teleports away - but there's something wrong! She asks me to... do something? I click on something and suddenly everything's okay and she teleports away successfully. Um... crap? Did I just save her accidentally? Shit.
Yep, if you wait she ends up exploding...nice.

Bara_no_Hime said:
There's another cut scene - fighting in Loc Mo-whatever. Phillipa is alive, and stumbling blindly about. Two soldiers see her and... oh my, this is going to go badly isn't -- HOLY SHIT, Phillipa just burnt them alive! Nice! ... wait, why can't she just use a spell to navigate? Instead of stumbling around. If her hearing is that good (magically augmented) then couldn't she use some sort of echo-location spell? Or, maybe, a HEALING SPELL on her eyes? No? Fine.
Well I know she can't just heal herself. Yen got her eyes burnt out in the battle of sodden in the books and it takes her a while to heal it with the help of other mages so healing things like eyes seems to be slow and take a lot of effort.

Bara_no_Hime said:
I loot the guards (pointless, I know) and find... Phillipa's dagger? A quest item. Um... okay?
You'll see whats that is for on the save Saskia path.
 

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Not So Final Thoughts:

I have to say, I've quite enjoyed my play through of the Witcher games. The first game was a bit slow, but I enjoyed the isometric viewpoint. The second game was a little short, but it was a good ride.

Overall, I am very impressed with this franchise. It connects well with its own history, and it does a great job of being character focused throughout.

It is a bit... old fashioned in some of its views, which is likely where some of my annoyance at it comes from. That was polite talk for the sexism and homophobia. Then again, it's not like many games are exactly doing that well, and I'll credit the Witcher with at least trying even if it did screw it up.

I gotta say, I'm glad I took a risk and bought the Witcher on GOG. It was a damn good investment for one dollar. As was the Witcher 2 for 7 bucks. Somehow, I don't think I'll wait so long for the Witcher 3 when it comes out - assuming I have something to play it on.

And, the Witcher has also helped me discover another fantasy series that I'm enjoying. What I didn't spend on the games the original creator will certainly see in book sales from me.

So yeah - my annoyed complaining aside, I very much enjoyed the Witcher - the game, the characters, and the world. I'm not ready to promote the Witcher to Best RPG ever, as some have (that's still Xenogears), but it has certainly risen to one of my favorites.

Thank you all for reading along!

And, yes, I'm going to add a few bits of replay and another book review, so this thread isn't over yet. Stay tuned.
 

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The End: Saskia Path

Okay, so I reloaded my save and did the ending again. I restarted right before entering the prison and redid the dialog with Phillipa - then chose to go with her. I met Iorveth outside and killed monsters back to her house. In her house, I got her notes and helped with the ritual. And then Phillipa dicked us over and teleported away.

One battle with an Elemental later (ouch!) I loot the dagger. Iorveth heads off to the summit - I'm to meet him there later.

I level up (once again, hit max level), took a moment to put runes on my sword, and then followed him there. Iorveth already killed the guards for me, so we headed straight in.

Things started out the same, but instead of Triss interrupting, it's Letho. Yikes. He sets Radovid against the mages - and then Saskia shows up and sets the place on fire.

Since I know the drill, I headed up to the top of the tower, letting my fire-proof armor soak the damage. At the top, I let Sile explode, and then fought the dragon.

Upon the next cut-scene, Geralt automatically freed Saskia of her mental fuckery and... Saskia and Geralt have a long talk. Turns out she's the daughter of the dragon from the story where Yen wanted to harvest it for parts. I chat as much as possible - enough to learn that Saskia has a Dwarf Fetish - and then Saskia leaves. Yeah, don't give me a ride back to town or anything....

Back at town - HOLY SHIT. Things are MUCH WORSE than last time.

Last time there was some chaos and looting, but generally the Mages came out okay. This time, due to Letho's "confession" - ha, right - all the mages have not only been murdered, but IMPALED. Or hung in a few cases. I meet up with Iorveth and prevent one last rape and then head in to meet Letho - who is holding Triss hostage.

I chat with Letho again, covering some dialog options I missed last time, and then - just to see if it makes a difference - I let Letho go.

We head out, ladybug not withstanding, and I learn that there is a North-wide Witch hunt - with a female mage being burnt at the stake in case I don't know what a Witch-hunt is. Well shit.

Meanwhile, the epilogue in Vergen is IDENTICAL to when I left Saskia under mind control. So Vergen is no better off, and everywhere else sucks worse.

Clearly rescuing Triss is the proper course of action to end this path. I mean, even in this path, Phillipa pretty much states that she only mind-controlled Saskia because Phillipa's paranoid and wanted to make sure Saskia stuck with the plan. This is really stupid, since Philipa effectively just screwed herself - and all of her mage friends - over by being overly cautious. If she'd just cured Saskia, she probably could have talked Saskia into what she needed done and not had everything blow up in her face. Or fewer things, anyway.

So that's that. I think I'm going to take a break from the game itself (except perhaps some pointless Arena mode action) and let things settle before backing up any further. I want to take some time and read Blood of Elves.
 

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Well, I'm glad you did your walk-throughs. They were entertaining and let me see both games with the sides I didn't pick ( I went with the Order and Roche.) Also if you continue to do the books I'll keep reading, I've never read the books and I don't really have time to; so that's pretty cool also.

All and all, thanks!
 

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InsanityHalls said:
Well, I'm glad you did your walk-throughs. They were entertaining and let me see both games with the sides I didn't pick ( I went with the Order and Roche.) Also if you continue to do the books I'll keep reading, I've never read the books and I don't really have time to; so that's pretty cool also.
All and all, thanks!
No problem. I'm glad you're enjoying it.

Actually, I was trying to keep the book stuff semi-spoiler free. I was considering saying more detailed things, but I thought that I might encourage readers to pick up the books if I was mostly vague.

I CAN be more detailed, if that's what people wants. I have quite a bit more I wouldn't mind saying about some of those stories - particularly the ones who take an interesting twist on classic fairy tales.
 

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On another note entirely... are there any Pathfinder or D&D players in the house? And by house, I mean thread? I've been trying some homebrew stuff for a Witcher game. I found a really good write up of Witcher potions that I plan to use, but all of the "Witcher class" writeups I've seen have tried to include the Mutations as part of the class rather than as an applied template (which makes more sense). Often, the same is done with Witcher equipment as part of the class.

So A) does anyone have tabletop game versions of Witcher stuff (particularly Pathfinder)?
and B) if not, would any of you be interested (or knowledgeable enough) to help me go through some of the versions I've found to come up with a working system?

Edit: No one? Really?

**pout**

Fine. I wrote a whole Mass Effect tabletop RPG by myself. This isn't nearly that much to work through.

Is anyone here at least interested in seeing what I come up with?
 

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A question.

I just read on the Witcher Wiki that the Enhanced Edition of the Witcher (the first one) is supposed to have two "Premium Modules" - two extra DLC adventures.

I appear to have the Enhanced Edition. ... how do I access the two extra adventures?
 

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Seems you may not be able to access both in the same playthrough.
Lies and Vipers: This quest is only available on Roche's path. It is given automatically when Geralt and Roche see Brigida Papebrock being chased by some thugs after leaving the Redanian camp area after speaking with King Radovid, during the quest For Temeria.
The Secrets of Loc Muinne: This quest can only be accessed if you took Iorveth's path. It is activated once you reach Loc Muinne's square. Two scholars Gaspar and Farid are looking for someone who can protect them from monsters. If you accept they will wait for you in the second level of the Crypt of Mages.
Wrong extra adventures. I completed the Secrets of Loc Muinne.

I'm talking about "The Price of Neutrality" and "Side Effects" for the Witcher 1.

Edit: Also, I just noticed your badges read "FU EA". Clever, sir; very clever.

Edit 2: Never mind. I clicked "New Game" and saw the "Extra Adventures" including "Damn those Swamps!" "Price of Neutrality" "Side Effects" "Deciets" "Wraiths of Quiet..." "The Wedding" and "Merry Witchmas".

Wow - that's a lot of side-adventures.
 

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Rose Reviews: Blood of Elves

And we're back.

First off - Awesome book. I really liked it. If you want to read it without spoilers, Go Buy It Now. It's, like 7 bucks on Amazon. Go now.

Okay, there is no way to talk about this one without Spoilers, so I'm not even going to bother with a spoiler tag. Everything after this point is going to be wall to wall spoilers. You have been warned.

Anyway, back in my Last Wish review, I briefly mentioned Geralt ending up with a "Surprise" Child - he did a job breaking a curse and asked for the Princess's first born child as payment. Because Geralt successfully guessed that the mother was pregnant, the child is destined to be his.

Which brings us to "today" - the beginning of Blood of Elves. We start with Dandelion telling the tale of Geralt rescuing Ciri, aka Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon, aka the Surprise Child, from Nilfguardian invaders - and specifically from a Black Knight. After the tale, various individuals argue about whether or not the story is true. This leads to some world background and Dandelion being hauled off by a mysterious Wizard to be tortured for information on said Princess.

It turns out that Dandelion made it up - it just seemed like something Geralt would do. The torturer isn't satisfied, however - which doesn't matter, because Yennifer kicks in the door and uses Lightning Bolts straight out of the Pathfinder core book to murder the Wizard's minions. The Wizard activates a gate spell, but not before Yen tosses a fireball through as well for him to remember her by.

I'd like to say one thing here. Yennifer is FUCKING BADASS. Where was this woman in that stupid dragon story? Ah well.

Anyway, onward to a new POV. It's Triss! During that world background section, it was mentioned that at the famous battle of Sodden Hill, where the northern kingdoms repelled Nilfguard's invasion (the same one that claimed Ciri's kingdom), Triss Merigold was killed. Turns out, not quite. It is later revealed that she was so badly injured that no one realized that the maimed survivor was actually HER. Since they couldn't find "Triss" she was presumed dead until someone healed her enough to speak and tell them who she was. And, during that time, they'd already carved her name on the statue, so they just didn't bother fixing it.

I'm asiding, but it's my review, so I can do that. Yennifer was blinded in the same battle, but her eyes have since been healed. Likewise Triss, it sounds like, had her face burnt off (and possibly a limb or two). But it's okay, she has a new one now. Another woman mentioned later somehow got her wounds cursed so they couldn't be healed - she wears an illusion to hide the fact that she's missing her lower jaw. Damn.

Back to the story in progress. Ahem.

So Triss has been summoned to Kaer Morhen. She wonders why - and kinda hopes it's to get sexy with Geralt. It turns out that, since their romance in the Last Wish, that Yennifer and Geralt have been sort of on-again/off-again in the romance department. During one bit of downtime, Triss decided to see if Geralt was really all that good in the sack as Yen had indicated and took him for a ride. And Triss is hoping to go for another ride. Hm.

Well, Triss then bumps into Ciri in the woods. Training on the "Killer" - the deadly training course that the Witchers use, so called because it has killed actual Witchers. And 13 year old (or so) Ciri is training on it.

Thus begins the establishment of Ciri as a badass.

Triss continues jumping to conclusions. The best (and the one I was kinda hoping for) is that they've brought her to help manage the Ritual of Grasses that will transform Ciri into a yellow-eyed mutant like the rest of them.

Sadly, no. Ciri goes into a brief prophetic trance and talks about how Triss is already dead. Well, technically true - without the insanely powerful magical aid she received, she would have died of those wounds. The fact that she looks fine now is a testament to how powerful healing magic is in this world.

Weirdly, Triss makes a comment about how her injuries, while mostly healed, prevent her from wearing low-cut outfits. This confused me because she wore low-cut outfits throughout the Witcher games, particularly the first one where she wore a little net over her breasts. Either she got the scars removed finally, or she's talking about someone else, or the game designers weren't paying attention, or they were, but decided "fuck canon - let's show her tits".

Whatever the case, Triss is welcomed and we get to see the Witchers hosting her. After dinner, Triss goes to fix Ciri's outfit and talk to her more, but when Ciri strips, Triss learns two things. 1) Witcher training is fucking BRUTAL. Ciri is covered in bruises - bruises she doesn't seem very fazed by. 2) Ciri has started getting periods, and is embarrassed to let the men-folk find out.

Once again, Ciri's badass points increase. And the girl is only 13 years old (an assumption based on the start of her period).

Triss has a little talk with the older Witchers about periods and steroids - yes, apparently the Witchers use good old-fashioned steroids as part of their "potions". Good to know. Also, the girl is a "Source" like Alvin. She'll need proper magical training, and Triss doesn't think she has the experience to provide it.

What follows is, I kid you not, a text-based Rocky-style training montage. Cue the song from World Police.

Ciri's badass points increase yet again. This girl is fucking awesome.

And then, it's time for Ciri to go get some religious training from Nenneke. So Geralt, Triss, and Ciri head off to Temeria. It's a long trip, and they end up meeting Yarpen the dwarf. This is after Triss gets sick with... something? It is never explained what happened to Triss. Maybe a bad bout of "almost burnt to death but magically healed"? Or maybe food poisoning. Fucked if I know.

Anyway, this introduces the Squirrels. They've been attacking the area and Yarpen is glad to have Geralt along just in case. So much so that eventually he makes Geralt and Ciri scouts for the group. While scouting, Ciri spots a group of Squirrels and hides. Before she can head back, Geralt wants to show her a ruined elven city and explain why Witchers remain neutral - because both sides are right, and both are wrong. The elves are acting out, but they have a reason to. The elves aren't agents of Nilfguard, as one person suggested, but angry children lashing out at a hurtful world.

Unfortunately, this education in Neutrality occurs just as those same Squirrels attack Yarpen's caravan. Oops. Geralt and Ciri head in, but Ciri freezes up. Geralt saves her, killing several Squirrels in the process. Ciri sees several of the people she's been traveling with die - some quickly, and some painfully, lingeringly.

Worse yet, it turns out that Yarpen has been transporting rocks (he believed he was transporting arms and armor secretly at the behest of King Henselt). He was set up - bait to draw out the Squirrels. Yarpen finds his world view - and his personal loyalty to King Asshole - shaken by this.

But no time for that, because Ciri has school to attend.

Time skips ahead a bit here. Geralt is riding on a barge, waiting for a river monster to attack. While he does so, he reads letters from Ciri (happily in school) and Yennifer (sarcastically punishing him for calling her a "friend" instead of a "love" in his last letter). All goes well until minions of that Wizard from the beginning show up and try to arrest Geralt.

What follows is A) Geralt kicking ass, B) the river monster's arrival, and C) the river monster's MATE's arrival. Geralt avoids getting eaten, but between his sword and the river monsters, none of the attackers survive.

Meanwhile, Dandelion goes to the University of Oxenford (Oxford University, ha) to meet Shani! He's being followed and (after having Shani get a message to Geralt) we learn by whom. It turns out that Dandelion is a spy for Redania.

....

HOLY SHIT! I had no idea that Dandelion actually, you know, DID stuff. Suddenly, Dandelion just turning up at random in the games makes MUCH more sense. He's a fucking Redanian spy! How... appropriate.

Anyway, he refuses to betray Geralt. Good for him. To make matters weirder, Phillipa is there too! This shouldn't be that surprising, since we know form the game that she advised the King of Redania until his death and then ended up ruling Redania for a while. What's surprising is that she's here talking to Dandelion. Wow, I'm quite impressed. That means that Dandelion is the Miles Vorkosigan of Redania.

Dandelion just got a ton of bad-ass points. His first ever.

Oh, another revelation here. Dandelion is 50 years old. WHAT THE FUCK?! That means he must be like 60 in the games. Holy crap, but he's aged well. Does HE have the blood of elves in him? Or is he secretly a Wizard? Or has he had some of that youth potion that Yennifer uses to keep herself young? Damn.

Anyway, back to Phillipa. I didn't really think that Phillipa was a character from the novels. It's kinda shocking that they cut out her eyes in the game (although she can regrow them, ala Yen, so not necessarily a long term issue).

Anyway, Dandelion heads to meet Geralt to warn him - and finds Geralt in bed with Shani. Ha. THAT I saw coming. No pun intended.

What I didn't expect was for Phillipa-the-Owl to fly in the window. So the owl thing is canon too. Weird. Phillipa also checks out Shani. So, Phillipa is a lesbian in the canon. Interesting.

Which actually brings me back to something from WAY earlier. Triss mentions a... "lesbian phase" that she went through. As a bisexual woman, it rather ticks me off when fiction portrays bisexuality as a passing phase. It isn't a phase - if you like both men and women, you like both men and women, even if you like one more than the other. Calling any sexual orientation a phase is insulting.

That said, although I used quotes earlier, the author didn't actually use the word phase. He described what sounded a lot like a phase, and heavily implied it, but what Triss said afterwards could be taken one of two ways.

1) Triss only sleeps with male Wizards or Witchers now.

2) Triss only sleeps with spellcasters - of either gender - now.

The text seems to assume 1 is the only way to read it, but it can also be read as version 2.

Because I like the book and don't want to be insulted by it, AND because the author left the door open by his ambiguous phrasing, I am choosing to believe, now and forever, that Triss Merigold is canon bisexual.

That means that the Witcher games featured a bisexual female protagonist (not a playable protagonist, but a major NPC) as the main positive female character.

That is fucking awesome. Now, when people ask for a well written gay character in video games, I will state "Triss Merigold" from the Witcher 1 and 2 - and note that she is canon bisexual in the novels, and thus even though she only sleeps with Geralt in the games, she still counts.

Ahem. Where was I? Oh, right, Phillipa checking out Shani. Very cute moment - Dandelion couldn't make Shani blush, but Phillipa managed it.

So, it turns out Shani has met this Wizard guy who's been stalking Ciri and Geralt. So, the whole group heads off (via the window) to find him.

They do so, resulting in him getting punched in the face and then briefly tortured before Phillipa gets bored and pulls the information from his brain. Ah, Phillipa, never change.

Outside, the Wizard himself shows up with minions. Geralt, high on a Cat potion (and a Wolverine too, maybe?), absolutely wrecks them. The Wizard runs, but Geralt catches him and beats the shit out of him. Until Phillipa shows up and lets the Wizard escape. Because... she's realized who he's working for.

...?

Okay then?

We also learn, from some cut-away scenes, the following:

The Kings of the four kingdoms have met (along with the Queen of Lyria) to talk. They proceed to decide to attack Nilfguard and liberate Cintra (Ciri's kingdom). They also decide that, if Ciri really does yet live, that she needs to be killed because they don't want her messing with their plans to make Cintra a puppet government and buffer kingdom against further Nilfguard attacks.

Also, in Nilfguard, that Black Knight from earlier is chatting with the fucking Emperor of Nilfguard. And apparently the Wizard is working for them. But... maybe not just for them?

Meanwhile, the Wizard conclave is ticked off about the Kings planning things behind their collective backs.

While all of this is going on, Ciri is training with Yennifer. The author did this very strangely, starting at the end, the day before Ciri and Yen leave, and then flashing back to their first meeting and the Sorceress training that Ciri has been getting.

The training proves quite interesting. It does bring up one question, though. If spellcasting itself ruins your glands and eventually makes your sterile, then why are they training Ciri in high-level magic? They decided to NOT give her the Ritual of Grasses because they didn't want to make it impossible for her to return to Cintra and become queen - but becoming a Sorceress will do the same thing (albeit without the eyes) since she can't have heirs if she's sterile.

I ask because I was kinda hoping that Ciri would take the trail. Her Destiny should protect her from dying outright, and then they'd have a brand new Witcher who will be alive for a hundred years or so.

Ahem. Anyway, the novel ends with Yennifer and Ciri preparing to leave the Temple.

Overall: Great book. I loved reading from Triss and Ciri's points of view. I also enjoyed getting to know Yennifer better. Andrzej Sapkowski does a fine job of writing with a convincing female voice, even if he does occasionally slide into stereotype. Even then, the characters are unique and interesting enough that I don't mind that much. Andrzej Sapkowski still writes from the female POV than Jim Butcher (one of my top three favorite authors) does. That's not to say that Mr. Butcher is about to be dethroned, just that he should never ever attempt to write from a female POV ever again, where as Andrzej Sapkowski handles his female POV fairly well.

That said, I'm kinda shocked that this novel got published. I mean, I'm glad it did, but the book is nothing but set-up. Very little actually happens. There is no sense of beginning-middle-end - just lots of beginning.

I've had those translations of books 2+ on my computer for a while, so I'll start reading those now. Sadly, I can't read those in the bath-tub like I could the paperbacks. However, I'm not about to wait until August to see what happens next - to say nothing of stuff beyond book 2 which might not make it over here for years yet.

I quite enjoyed the book. It answered a lot of my questions about the World of the Witcher, and it was just a damn good read. Highly Recommended.
 

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Update: Damn those Swamps or Blight of the Bogs

So... I decided to try some of these extra adventures. I decided to start at the top with Damn those Swamps.

I appear in Vizima Swamp. There's a ferryman, but he only wants to talk about the fog. I head into town to find people to give me quests, and meet two - a woman who wants lemon balm and a man who wants some drowners killed. So I do both - drowners first, then lemonbalm, which involves two more drowners and a wolf. So far so easy.

It also levels me up, so I look around for a campfire. There's only one, back by the ferryman. And... I can't use it, because there's no flint. There also appear to be no openable doors, lootable chests, or herbs of any sort - so I can't level up, make potions, or anything else that requires meditation. What the hell, game?

Well, I figure maybe the game will give me some flint later? So I turn in the two quests (getting half way to the next level) and a little girl comes out of her house and asks me to find a doll for her. Okay then.

I head to where she says it is, but Geralt says it isn't there (and my mouse detects nothing pick-up-able. I turn around to go back ---

-- and my game crashes, dropping me back to desktop... with no progress saved. Fuck.

Yeah... I'm thinking maybe I should try a different adventure. Any recommendations?
 

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**cricket chirping**

Hello? Is anyone still here? Other than DVS, I mean (and I only know he's still here because of PMs).
 

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Yo. I'm here.

Thanks for writing this Lets Play. I didnt know about these Witcher books. I jsut finished reading teh 1st one and it was really good. Ive preordered the 2nd one.