Anarchy? Really?
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I think you have misunderstood anarchists. Most find the rules, restrictions, taboos and laws we live by to be too constraining and would like there to be less. How much less depends on the individual anarchist. It is not merely laws but social conventions that they react against. Most also dislike tyranny and so more demand that laws (and so on) be constantly questioned and tested then anything.
The UK has become the posterboy across the world for government run amok. Listen to the Judas Priest song, Electric Eye, and you will know all you need to about the situation.Blindswordmaster said:
The fact that one thing tends toward something is by no means a prediction as to future behavior. True, governments tend toward totalitarianism, but he implied that all governments see this as a goal. You and I know that's not true.Wayneguard said:
Very true, but without government people can bring themselves to do almost anything. Ever read Lord of the Flies?Loop Stricken said:
As George Washington said "Government is a necessary evil." It sounds weird at first, but think about it and it makes alot of sense. I have no problem with the government as long as it stays in the middle between Anarchy and communism.
Unfortunately, I couldn't agree moregamerguy473 said:I agree, but the US is going in the same direction ever faster.Wayneguard said:
I think it prudent to make the distinction between a government that is constitutionally restricted in its power (and actually follows those restrictions) and one that is not. I am of the thought that a government that is unaccountable to the people will, inevitably, rule oppressively. History has proven that correct. However, a government that operates within restrictions and is accountable to those it governs, it will not rule oppressively.Blindswordmaster said:
In my opinion, we should all become Comunarchists. An equal blend of anarchy and communism. A government so rigid and structured, that there is no order. I'm going to buy an island off the coast of South America. If you want to chip in and join, feel free to contact me.
What most people unaffiliated with the ideology, and middle schoolers and high school freshmen wearing circle As think anarchy is- the belief that there should be absolute chaos.
What Anarchism is not- the belief that there should be absolute chaos.
No self respecting Anarchist over maybe fourteen thinks that chaos is a goal. They tend to think that if governments are eliminated, people will assemble themselves willingly into an ordered society free of oppression. This is the significance of the circle A. The "circle" is supposed to be the letter O. The A inside of it stands for: "Anarchy is order".
Do I agree with their belief? No. However, it isn't chaos they want.
What Anarchism is not- the belief that there should be absolute chaos.
No self respecting Anarchist over maybe fourteen thinks that chaos is a goal. They tend to think that if governments are eliminated, people will assemble themselves willingly into an ordered society free of oppression. This is the significance of the circle A. The "circle" is supposed to be the letter O. The A inside of it stands for: "Anarchy is order".
Do I agree with their belief? No. However, it isn't chaos they want.
I think the idea of a total government is wrong, but I think the lack of government is just as bad, honestly its about finding a balance that give maximum freedom and protection.
Anarchy is always trumped by organization. Even if your government was to submit to anarchy and everything was peaches you would then be crushed by a country with an organized government and standing military. After all with no one to lead them an army would crumble, for appointing even one officer to lead soldiers we defy anarchy as you would be giving someone power. What organized country would pass up on a country full of rich resources and no one to guard it.
In honesty if the government were dissolve we would see a massive amount of bloodshed while organized crime syndicates begin to take power for themselves. Organized crime is loosely kept in check by a standing police force. Remove that and they have free range. The innocent will be stepped on to make room with the ones with the guns. This wouldn't be survive of the fittest, it would be survival of the ones who have guns already.
Do you honestly think gangs exist because of government? No. They exist to take power. Now imagine if that power were up for grabs with nothing really stopping them anymore. They have the guns, they have the gear, we no longer have the standing police to stop them. I have no idea how to use a gun, I'm pretty out of shape, my best bet is a baseball bat or knife. Anarchy would spell my death or enslavement to a standing gang.
People would starve. The government regulates costs and what the value of a dollar is worth. Remove that, and a town is locked in a desperate war for basic supplies due to one person hoarding, or the gang hoarding. You think groceries are high in cost? Imagine if you the only way for some women to get food is to trade there body for an apple. The only way to get medicine would be to trade all your food.
Imagine a world where you have to live in packs taking turns sleeping because if the people across the street grow jealous of your fancy couch they will come over and slit your throats while your asleep.
Imagine a world where the KKK can march around killing blacks, jew, homosexuals and anyone else who isn't 'pure' in there eyes simply because who is going to stand against thousands of armed soldiers. Fanatical in there cause and armed to the teeth.
After Anarchy there will be blood shed. Once the final shot rings out there will be a ruling power once more. Only this one gained power through death and murder, and will rule as such.
Society evolved slowly to the government we have now. Destroying it is stupid and ass backwards. Stopping your complaining and working to fix it is progression. Its so much easier to watch something burn then to work to fix it.
You think I am kidding? Read your history books to before governments regulated anything besides how much taxes you pay to your lord. People were killed for no reason and nobody cared, women were traded like cattle for food and supplies. Black people were objects to be bartered with.
These are a few of my opinions on anarchy. If you disagree that's great. I don't want to fight about this and I am just laying my feelings out there. I'm not responding to replies simply because it will lead nowhere and i don't care enough to try and convince you about soemthing i honestly think will not happen in the Canada(where I live).
In honesty if the government were dissolve we would see a massive amount of bloodshed while organized crime syndicates begin to take power for themselves. Organized crime is loosely kept in check by a standing police force. Remove that and they have free range. The innocent will be stepped on to make room with the ones with the guns. This wouldn't be survive of the fittest, it would be survival of the ones who have guns already.
Do you honestly think gangs exist because of government? No. They exist to take power. Now imagine if that power were up for grabs with nothing really stopping them anymore. They have the guns, they have the gear, we no longer have the standing police to stop them. I have no idea how to use a gun, I'm pretty out of shape, my best bet is a baseball bat or knife. Anarchy would spell my death or enslavement to a standing gang.
People would starve. The government regulates costs and what the value of a dollar is worth. Remove that, and a town is locked in a desperate war for basic supplies due to one person hoarding, or the gang hoarding. You think groceries are high in cost? Imagine if you the only way for some women to get food is to trade there body for an apple. The only way to get medicine would be to trade all your food.
Imagine a world where you have to live in packs taking turns sleeping because if the people across the street grow jealous of your fancy couch they will come over and slit your throats while your asleep.
Imagine a world where the KKK can march around killing blacks, jew, homosexuals and anyone else who isn't 'pure' in there eyes simply because who is going to stand against thousands of armed soldiers. Fanatical in there cause and armed to the teeth.
After Anarchy there will be blood shed. Once the final shot rings out there will be a ruling power once more. Only this one gained power through death and murder, and will rule as such.
Society evolved slowly to the government we have now. Destroying it is stupid and ass backwards. Stopping your complaining and working to fix it is progression. Its so much easier to watch something burn then to work to fix it.
You think I am kidding? Read your history books to before governments regulated anything besides how much taxes you pay to your lord. People were killed for no reason and nobody cared, women were traded like cattle for food and supplies. Black people were objects to be bartered with.
These are a few of my opinions on anarchy. If you disagree that's great. I don't want to fight about this and I am just laying my feelings out there. I'm not responding to replies simply because it will lead nowhere and i don't care enough to try and convince you about soemthing i honestly think will not happen in the Canada(where I live).
Anarchy is not illogical, you're close minded. Your entire post was nothing but assumptions paraded as facts. Do some research, read some philosophical writings, and ditch the ignorance.
Now if I were to directly answer the questions present in your post:
"why would any of them promote chaos?"
Anarchy =/= chaos
"so why would anyone support absolute chaos?"
Again, Anarchy is not just chaos. A more in depth answer is: it is theoretically a better option when you closely examine the government systems currently in existence
" I just don't understand it. Thoughts?"
Think harder
Now if I were to directly answer the questions present in your post:
"why would any of them promote chaos?"
Anarchy =/= chaos
"so why would anyone support absolute chaos?"
Again, Anarchy is not just chaos. A more in depth answer is: it is theoretically a better option when you closely examine the government systems currently in existence
" I just don't understand it. Thoughts?"
Think harder
If the preachers of anarchy aren't wearing lots of black or are older than 14, they usually may have a point. I used to be a very strong proponent of Anarchy, until I found that I was just a proponent of human nature. Back to the topic of other people and Anarchy, though. When it isn't just a load of B.S. 'burn the establishment because I don't want to do my homework', it's about people living completely free lives without the required interference of others. It's not a promotion of chaos, but rather that is what's been made out to be by authoritative figures.
