And the Hero that DC teases that will come out of the closet is.........

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redmoretrout

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Here is a formula for testing if a hero is "iconic" has he had his own series or movie? If not people who don't read comics will not recognize him. If he's not recognizable he is not iconic.

That guy is not iconic.
 

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DarkRyter said:
Dammit, I was hoping Icon.

They kept saying "Iconic". And he would've been a Gay, Black, Republican. It would've been ballsy as fuck.
Wow. You already seem to know more about how to handle this than DC. Putting all those together might be kind of interesting. People really should be allowed to design more characters in radically-different ways without people being "offended", as they claim. In most instances, if you have a white guy do something stupid, everyone laughs. But, if you have a black guy do something stupid, hordes of zombies slam down on the "Racist!" button.

I should look into this "Icon" character. I wouldn't have even heard of him if it wasn't for Young Justice. Frankly, I'm not even sure why he's called "Icon". (Hold on a sec... I think he has a daughter...?)
 

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He'll never be as cool as the black Green Lantern.

No one will ever be as cool as the black Green Lantern. He's my favorite DC superhero, hands down.

This new one can go ahead and suck a di- wait a second...
You mean John Stewart your favorite DC superhero which you do not know the name of is John Stewart.
Hey, not all of us read comic books. Some of us only watched the Justice League in our hayday.

I stand by my statement. John Stewart is my favorite DC superhero. I actually knew his name back when the Justice League was still airing, and watched each episode at least twice. Been a number of years since that, though.
I just thought it was funny that he was your fav even though you didn't even know his name :p

I also figured you knew him from the show he is the lantern I am most familiar with for the same reason.
 

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I'm surprised it wasn't someone a bit better known. Yes, Golden Age Green Lantern has his following, mostly in the older crowd. I fully expected it to be a hero who was a known comodity, but in a book that was struggling...Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Superboy, and JLI's Booster Gold were the ones I thought would be most likely with Hawkman or Kyle Rayner GL as a longshot but ones that wouldn't have surprised me. I knew it wasn't going to be anyone in the Justice League, the fallout from angry readers leaving would outwiegh the new fans picking up the book. Someone from Earth 2 is a bit of a weak shot. It was hard enough to attract new readers to the classic Justice Society with it's Golden Age era heroes...those fans ALL skew older. But the new take on them with Earth 2 has started out as a really strong way to get younger readers excited about the JSA for the first time in...well...pretty much ever :p Taking a gamble like this in a book they are trying to get off the ground is risky, it could turn those old JSA fans off without bringing anybody new onboard. I would have rather seen it be a better known hero with his own book well established, I also think it would have had more impact than a vintage character who isn't even in the main DC Universe.
 

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WolfThomas said:
I wouldn't call Alan Scott D-List, he was pretty popular in the Golden Age and has regularly been in comics. He's more B-C list depending on how narrow your definition is.

But yeah I was expecting like Wally West, Tim Drake, someone like that.
Agreed. This is a bit anticlimactic since not many people are going to pick up Earth-2 (which is a pity because #1 was excellent) or even know who Alan Scott is. My money was on Tim Drake. West doesn't exist in the reboot yet, does he?
They will/should never make a gay robin, its too obvious.
 

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They should make Superman gay.

No really. Gay. Superman.
I won't lie, when I read about the impending reveal I suddenly thought that perhaps this was why they broke up Lois and Clarke in the Superman mythos, to do this. Man if the announcement had said 'Superman is Gay' then I would have fucking cheered, if only to see the 'Million Moms' organisation loose its mind.
It doesn't work. Not really. Superman isn't much of a sexual being in the first place all told. He's a great American good guy and that's about all there is to it. He's also an alien which makes him being gay largely irrelevant. Once one is willing to cross the species boundary, gender is hardly taboo.

More importantly, such a move would be entirely cynical in the first place as it is only a choice if you want to incite rage on all fronts. A gay Superman is, simply put, just flaimbait; it's nothing but an obvious troll.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Gordon_4 said:
evilneko said:
They should make Superman gay.

No really. Gay. Superman.
I won't lie, when I read about the impending reveal I suddenly thought that perhaps this was why they broke up Lois and Clarke in the Superman mythos, to do this. Man if the announcement had said 'Superman is Gay' then I would have fucking cheered, if only to see the 'Million Moms' organisation loose its mind.
It doesn't work. Not really. Superman isn't much of a sexual being in the first place all told. He's a great American good guy and that's about all there is to it. He's also an alien which makes him being gay largely irrelevant. Once one is willing to cross the species boundary, gender is hardly taboo.

More importantly, such a move would be entirely cynical in the first place as it is only a choice if you want to incite rage on all fronts. A gay Superman is, simply put, just flaimbait; it's nothing but an obvious troll.
Still, the inevitable nuclear meltdown a group like Million Moms would have had, that would be a worthy troll.

To speculate honestly I found myself struggling to imagine which character they were going to choose. Alan Scott may not have the same level of popularity as Superman or Batman, but within comic fandom at least the name is spoken with respect.

The challenge DC now faces, is to make this change and annoucnement mean something. That's where they might fall into trouble.
 

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Antonio Torrente said:
Realitycrash said:
Antonio Torrente said:
Realitycrash said:
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I have a better idea, instead of "re-imagining" a established character as gay, why not make a new one?
That is impossible for DC. They have no originality anymore. They even have to use marketing ploys by other publishers to make sales.

Otherwise, there wouldnt be a Dog from Krypton.

Here is my impression of a DC exec..... "Sales are down, we need to think of something quick....What has marvel done recently"? Another guy in the room " Wikipedia says they just made a character gay"... DC Exec. "Fantastic. Making somebody gay is a very original idea. Glad we thought of it. Now where is our cocaine?"
I have to correct you here. MAINSTREAM-DC has no originality. The rest of probably the most original of all comicbooks. What is the "rest"? I talk, of course, of Vertigo, which is formally owned and ran by DC.

V for Vendetta.
Sandman.
Lucifer.
Fables.
Ex Machina.
Hellblazer.

If that shit ain't original, what the hell is?
Vertigo is responsible for pretty much every successful deconstruction and reconstruction of the superhero-genre. And they are still going strong
Unfortunately for the Vertigo imprint the titles just are mediocre or awful when adapted as movies. Example V for Vendetta which is ok but a failure on the box office, so yeah only readers or have knowledge with the mythos can appreciate it not the mainstream audience
Well, yeah, but so what? My point was that DC still owns (however nominally) the best and most though-provoking, original and award-winning comics out there.
Maybe that's the reason why Alan Moore(one of my most favorite writers of all time and one of the most screwed writers by DC) disowns most of the adaptations of his works, the exceptions are Watchmen and that popular Justice League: Unlimited Episode "The Man who has Everything".
Eh, as far as I know, Moore disowned the adaption of Watchmen pretty hard.
 

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Gordon_4 said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
Gordon_4 said:
evilneko said:
They should make Superman gay.

No really. Gay. Superman.
I won't lie, when I read about the impending reveal I suddenly thought that perhaps this was why they broke up Lois and Clarke in the Superman mythos, to do this. Man if the announcement had said 'Superman is Gay' then I would have fucking cheered, if only to see the 'Million Moms' organisation loose its mind.
It doesn't work. Not really. Superman isn't much of a sexual being in the first place all told. He's a great American good guy and that's about all there is to it. He's also an alien which makes him being gay largely irrelevant. Once one is willing to cross the species boundary, gender is hardly taboo.

More importantly, such a move would be entirely cynical in the first place as it is only a choice if you want to incite rage on all fronts. A gay Superman is, simply put, just flaimbait; it's nothing but an obvious troll.
Still, the inevitable nuclear meltdown a group like Million Moms would have had, that would be a worthy troll.

To speculate honestly I found myself struggling to imagine which character they were going to choose. Alan Scott may not have the same level of popularity as Superman or Batman, but within comic fandom at least the name is spoken with respect.

The challenge DC now faces, is to make this change and annoucnement mean something. That's where they might fall into trouble.
If they turned Superman gay, the rage from OMM wouldn't be what I would worry about..
 

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Antonio Torrente said:
If this is true, I'm kinda disappointed because thought it would be game changer with being one of the main heroes being gay and giving a giant middle finger to all the bigots out there but this wouldn't even made a ripple because for all intents and purposes he is a D-list hero.
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Thats a stupid reason for wanting someone to be gay. You just wanna change a sexuality to spite people and possibly fans of a character who might and probably would get upset.

What, did you want batman to be gay just to anger people? screw you.

I totally disagree with using a preexisting character and then announcing it like they have, lesser known or not. They dont think a new character who happens to be homosexual can sell, so theyre using him! Theyre just taking the easy way out in my opinion.
I'm sorry, but..What's the "smart" reason for "want someone to be gay"?
Is there any non-offensive reason to change a persons sexuality in order to benefit from it?
 

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Im just glad it's not flash. the jokes about the fastest man in the universe would be horrible >.>
 

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projectpinkx said:
Wasn't the Alan Scott GL's primary weakness wood? If so... what irony.
My problem is the costume, purple, red and green. HIDEOUS!