I think that presume a level of decisiveness and sense I fear is sorely lacking in our government. But, still, the majority of the pressure would fall upon London, as it is still the host city. I agree with you though, not holding out much hope for the olympics.Cpt_Oblivious said:We could do what China did and use the entire country's resources for the Olympics anyway. Just because it's not your city doesn't mean it's not still your country. And it would mean embarrassment for all, not just Londoners >.>Stephanos132 said:1. It would've been countrywide (unlike the LONDON olympics), so the entire english nations resources could've been put to good use.
Im afraid your talking garbage here.Falconcry said:well Qatar being in the world surely means its eligible to host a "world cup" is it not fair for these competitions to be held in places other than central europe and south america?, where a vast majority of them have been held already. Lets face it this has been a monpoly for the usual faces for too long, just because its a bit "risky" is not a good enough reason for it not to go somewhere, i think because south africa went so well it has opened up oppertunites for others who perhaps won't have been considered before. As for the potential booze ban, i dont think its fair to go to another country and expect it to change the law just cause you showed up with all your mates, it is possible to enjoy football without beer (really it is!). So stop all your whining just cause its far away from you and you won't be allowed to act like a drunkin' lout while you're there, sake man up already.
also being scottish makes watching england fail once again is enjoyable.
We do, but it's not the games that will be the source of the embarrassment. It'll be our fans being the usual drunken, fighting louts and any attempt at a special opening that will do us in.Snork Maiden said:We run the Premier League (and the rest of the football league) without much of a hitch every week, I'm fairly sure when it comes to running a series of football games and getting people to them we have that pretty much spot on.Cpt_Oblivious said:We could do what China did and use the entire country's resources for the Olympics anyway. Just because it's not your city doesn't mean it's not still your country. And it would mean embarrassment for all, not just Londoners >.>
Domestic football in this country is the safest and least violent it has ever been, arrests are ridiculously low and not higher then a concert of comparitive attendance.Cpt_Oblivious said:We do, but it's not the games that will be the source of the embarrassment. It'll be our fans being the usual drunken, fighting louts and any attempt at a special opening that will do us in.Snork Maiden said:We run the Premier League (and the rest of the football league) without much of a hitch every week, I'm fairly sure when it comes to running a series of football games and getting people to them we have that pretty much spot on.Cpt_Oblivious said:We could do what China did and use the entire country's resources for the Olympics anyway. Just because it's not your city doesn't mean it's not still your country. And it would mean embarrassment for all, not just Londoners >.>
As long as we don't play any games near Millwall I think we'd of managed. "British fans are all louts" has been less and less true since the early 90s.Cpt_Oblivious said:We do, but it's not the games that will be the source of the embarrassment. It'll be our fans being the usual drunken, fighting louts and any attempt at a special opening that will do us in.Snork Maiden said:We run the Premier League (and the rest of the football league) without much of a hitch every week, I'm fairly sure when it comes to running a series of football games and getting people to them we have that pretty much spot on.Cpt_Oblivious said:We could do what China did and use the entire country's resources for the Olympics anyway. Just because it's not your city doesn't mean it's not still your country. And it would mean embarrassment for all, not just Londoners >.>
Ah, good to see someone beat me too it.AndrewFFC said:Fact is England has been at the last two world cups with next to no violence.
I'm sure our stadiums for it aren't even properly built yet.Cpt_Oblivious said:Hehe. I like the decision because I've always wanted to go to Russia and I might be able to get a deal of some sort going over there
As for us English hosting it? Nah. We're going to screw up the Olympics already, we don't need more opportunities to embarrass ourselves internationally.
AndrewFFC said:Im afraid your talking garbage here.Falconcry said:well Qatar being in the world surely means its eligible to host a "world cup" is it not fair for these competitions to be held in places other than central europe and south america?, where a vast majority of them have been held already. Lets face it this has been a monpoly for the usual faces for too long, just because its a bit "risky" is not a good enough reason for it not to go somewhere, i think because south africa went so well it has opened up oppertunites for others who perhaps won't have been considered before. As for the potential booze ban, i dont think its fair to go to another country and expect it to change the law just cause you showed up with all your mates, it is possible to enjoy football without beer (really it is!). So stop all your whining just cause its far away from you and you won't be allowed to act like a drunkin' lout while you're there, sake man up already.
also being scottish makes watching england fail once again is enjoyable.
Firstly the world cup has just been at South Africa. Qatar is a nation of 1.5million people, thats less then the Glasgow metropolitan are.
Secondly if the agenda was about world sharing then Australia was the much more logical choice.
How poor is their human rights record exactly?Lawyer105 said:So the poor human rights record of Qatar was obviously not enough to exclude it from this?? Shame and dishonour on the committee for all eternity and all that other stuff...
Sure, they're better than many Arab countries in terms of human rights compliance, but they're FAR from perfect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar
Yeah... but what they're NOT telling you is that nobody can get into the country without a "sponsor". And once you come IN for that sponsor, they have a massive amount of control over you. You can't work for anybody else. You can't leave without their permission. Even if they let you leave the country, they can forbid you coming back for YEARS. I'm not surprised they can keep the population down.Liberaliter said:Oh no, I agree. Good on Qatar.JourneyThroughHell said:World's second nominal GDP per capita. They have a lot of money. They don't have too many people.Liberaliter said:Not as far as Eastern states go no.JourneyThroughHell said:As far as Eastern states go, I'd say it's fairly successfull.Liberaliter said:Qatar.
Definitely not "crappy".
Still, I read that as successfull.
Maybe we should start doing that in the UK. Might control immigration a bit. Oh wait... that's pretty much a total breach of human rights. Maybe that's why they don't do it here.
Doh!
What timezone issues? Qatar is GMT +3, Western Europe stretches from GMT to GMT +2.supermariner said:Russia: fair enough, as an englishman i still genuinely think they were best choice
but Qatar? it'd be interesting to know what their reasoning was
its in the middle east - time zone issues with the world cups biggest audience: western europe
the country will have to cater for nearly half a million supporters wanting to go see their country play
it doesnt make sense to me
The money that is invested is probably returned with some profits.Mr Montmorency said:I'm glad it didn't end up in England. We have better things to spend our public money on than a bunch of overpaid chimps running around for 90 minutes.
The problem with that is that people most likely aren't going to be very relaxed about their spending in this day and age. But I suppose that's making sense in the long term, but at the moment, it seems like such a waste of money that the period where it'll have to make it all back will probably be a serious fork in the road.ActivatorX said:The money that is invested is probably returned with some profits.Mr Montmorency said:I'm glad it didn't end up in England. We have better things to spend our public money on than a bunch of overpaid chimps running around for 90 minutes.
Hotels, pubs, restaurants, airports, airlines, gift shops, souvenir shops, etc. Think of how much money all those put together.
Oh, and don't forget the match tickets.