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lordlillen

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ignore the visuals.

honestly i dont care if its the point of the anime the main character was an annoying whiner and i couldnt stand more then a few episodes and the little action it had wast anything spectacular.
 

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Fate/Stay Night (The anime, not the VN.)- This one's probably popular due to the VN, but the anime itself is very generic and mediocre, and the main character is an idiot. The other Fate anime, like Fate/Zero, Carnival Phantasm, and even Unlimited Blade Works I thought were way better..
Popular due to the visual novel, really? most people I've seen who know about it have only watched the anime, which is as you say, incredibly mediocre.
I don't know. I never played the VN, but the anime seemed to have gotten a lot of very positive reviews, and I've seen people who've considered it one of their favorite anime.
 

somonels

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Most of them.
I mean, green is fun if you have been colorblind for your whole life, but it soon becomes mundane and you see it's not that great.
 

Palademon

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No probs.

I think Kyon is one of the better characters from MoHS, I feel he is more complex, like he is always struggling with being pulled one way or the other. Mind you I never really though MoHS has great characters, it had archetypes but they never really felt like people. I really like Nagato but she is one of the most obvious cliches, that of the aloof bookish girl, usually flat chested and small.

Well my thing with Light is that doesn't he start off killing a motorcyclist? Now in the manga I think the guy was just chatting up some girl, but in the anime I think he was being a dick. But to me at least that doesn't justify killing.

Which is part of the thing that annoys me with Death Note, how much it seems to wants to avoid ever having a serious discussion about morality. Yeah the plot has lots of twists but neither Light nor L ever really seemed interested in presenting a serious argument about why they are doing what they are doing. i mean L is only really there because he views it as a challenge to his intellectual abilities rather then there being any overriding moral imperative compelling him to stop Kira. Which comes back to it being a shonen manga but it does mean I deduct points from it. The series Monster does good/evil and wherever it's right to kill to stop an evil man ten times better then Death note ever does, because it attempts to do so.

Death Note is still very watchable though.

I wouldn't recommend Linebarrels of Iron as a show to watch for fun, but you might be interested in just looking at the first four episodes to see if you agree with me. He is a truly horrible protagonist, think the kid from Chronicle but prone to ranting about why he is a "hero of justice". And honestly I think there is a degree of honesty in suggesting that perhaps quite a few otaku would react like that if given a mecha, not going catatonic but rather being drunk on power.

See I really like the first season of Code Geass, it was my first real anime, so I'm quite fond for it and I'm quite a military nerd so I can see why it wouldn't bother you but for me it was really pushing it. While before it was borderline it seemed to be at least partly grounded in reality, but then it became a super robot show which I disliked. I can get what they are saying about sexing it up, Geass was always a bit of a tart when it come to some stuff (Jeremiah please stand up).

I would still maintain that Geass was at least a bit better then Death Note in that it at least attempted to answer it's main theme of wherever it's better to work in an unjust system for legitimacy, or to work outside it to destroy it, when compared to Geass' complete apathy towards it's superficial main theme over if it is right to kill guilty men.
Well the motorcyclist was attempting to gang rape her...

That reminds me that if someone wnats to get into anime I suggest to them they watch Death Note then Code Geass, because Death Note can show how anime can use story to a great deal, have dark themes, and show anime overcoming the often held western idea that animation is either for children or all comedy, or only more complex in animated movies. And then Code Geass eases them into the anime cliches people often bring up as a negative, and combines them with similar themes from Death note. Although Lelouch is a much more redeemable character than Light.
 

370999

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Well the motorcyclist was attempting to gang rape her...

That reminds me that if someone wnats to get into anime I suggest to them they watch Death Note then Code Geass, because Death Note can show how anime can use story to a great deal, have dark themes, and show anime overcoming the often held western idea that animation is either for children or all comedy, or only more complex in animated movies. And then Code Geass eases them into the anime cliches people often bring up as a negative, and combines them with similar themes from Death note. Although Lelouch is a much more redeemable character than Light.
He was wasn't he. Mind you that I would say is another problem, how completely and unrealistically apathetic people appear to be in the Death Note universe. They don't even care about people dropping dead next to them.

I concur in regards to death Note, I do feel it is a very good gateway drug (Cowboy Bebop is the same) as it is incredibly entertaining and reasonably smart. Just don't expect any real insights into the human condition.
 

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Melancholy is supremely overrated. I hated that anime. Couldn't even tolerate it well enough to watch more than a handful of episodes. It was boring and the concept was idiotic.
 

Richardplex

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Fate/Stay Night (The anime, not the VN.)- This one's probably popular due to the VN, but the anime itself is very generic and mediocre, and the main character is an idiot. The other Fate anime, like Fate/Zero, Carnival Phantasm, and even Unlimited Blade Works I thought were way better..
Popular due to the visual novel, really? most people I've seen who know about it have only watched the anime, which is as you say, incredibly mediocre.
I don't know. I never played the VN, but the anime seemed to have gotten a lot of very positive reviews, and I've seen people who've considered it one of their favorite anime.
Fate/Stay Night is a 7/10 anime, using the gaming industries scale, and seen it given that quite a few times. I haven't seen anything give the visual novel anything below a 10.

I knew a friend who I've lost contact with, he thought the F/SN anime was his favourite anime.. until he read the visual novel. His response? "How on earth did I think that anime was good?" A random anonymous guy on the internet I was sort of talking to said "Fate/Stay Night was pretty average really, but it had something underlying it, a beautiful story not being told. That beautiful story turned out to be the visual novel".

So like we said, VERY overrated anime, it is a shadow of the visual novel. Fate/Stay Night's biggest strength is easily the characters, and that, unlike the story and somehow the action (bit of a head-scratcher there, an unanimated visual novel making the fights more gripping than an anime, but they managed it) can be carried over easily. Couldn't really get into their development or their deep complexities, but still.

(Sorry to come across as a massive fangirl. I try to safely release it in the form of bouncing, but some of it still comes out).

Edit: Only just realised you're not a third person, so my post will probably read a bit weirdly. My bad.
 

Nerexor

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Full Metal Panic. I've tried to watch it several times, and every time I get so bored I start skipping through the episodes until stuff actually starts happening. High school BS takes up way too much time on that show.

Bleach. The first bit of bleach was awesome, cool premise, awesome swordfights, interesting characters, and Aizen's reveal. All of it was great. And then it faceplanted into manure and filler and filler made of manure... Ugh. Same goes for Naruto after the Chuunin exams arc everything went to shit.
 

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I've only watched a handful of animes, and I try my best not to use the word "overrated" unless it's really appropriate, so I don't know if I can name any.

If anything I think that Death Note gets a little more praise than it's worth. It's a pretty cool premise and it works really well up to a point, but it goes on for a bit too long and tries a bit to hard to outdo itself in terms of complexity. Had it ended a little over halfway through I would have liked it more.
 

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R2. Motherfucking R2. I liked Code Geass R1. It was over the top and goofy, but it at least had a sense of pacing and a level of restraint. I liked the characters, it had some good action scenes as well as some nice subtle details, culminating in a pretty damn awesome climax cliffhanger of a last episode.

And then, within a single episode, R2 shit over that entire buildup completely. So we get to see a condensed repeat of R1 over the course of a few episodes before it actually gets back on track, but even here, it just gets stupider and stupider. It became less about the character dynamic between Suzaku and Lelouch, and more about what utter bullshit they could come up with next, including but not limited to murdering GOD.
To me, the series just digressed way too much and found itself off track, and then Shirley died. That pissed me off because I liked the character, and personally, I expected Lelouch to go completely berserk by then.

Why not talk about the small animes you randomly find and watch, though? Rosario + Vampire? Highschool DxD? Zero no Tsukaima?
 

Murlin

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Fairy tail, I don't hate it and I don't regret giving it a watch but it's far from brilliant. It's basically just the love child of Dragon Quest and One Piece, but with a higher boob degree (seriously you can count the small-breasted female characters on your fingers)

I liked TTGL and Evangilion, but mostly because Gainax is one of the few studios who go out and break the unwritten rules of anime. Death of deuteragonist early on in the show? Haven't seen that before.
Their ends were a huge mess though. Evangilion was warped and TTGL just tried to hard to emulate the overblown final boss fights of Final Fantasy.
 

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Death Note.


It's a great show, up until that happens.

Then the series turned to shit.
I didn't find the events after 'you know what' shit, just different... very different. Seems like it was done by different writers.

OT: Probably One Piece. I like it, but it is stretched out to a ridiculous level.
 
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Justice4L said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Death Note.


It's a great show, up until that happens.

Then the series turned to shit.
I didn't find the events after 'you know what' shit, just different... very different. Seems like it was done by different writers.

OT: Probably One Piece. I like it, but it is stretched out to a ridiculous level.
It wouldn't have been so bad if Mellow and Near weren't the most annoyingly dull characters in the history of the universe.

For me, the mind games between Light and L are what made the series so great, as well as L being a genuinely interesting character.
 

Jonluw

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- Clannad: Controversial, I know, but 3 episodes and it's painfully obvious that the main woman is oversensitive and useless and the man is an emo bully (Yeah, its okay to mock/tease the blonde guy but the second he hints you may like someone you get huffy and whiny). Bleh.
But...
The entire point of the series is how weak of a person the main character is.
You can't criticize the series for presenting the protagonist in an unappealing way when the series is about his unappealing qualities, i.e., fixing the flaws that are holding you back as a person.
If you had watched after story, you would have understood (Everything does make a whole lot more sense in after story).

It's also fairly important to the story that the main girl is weak and pretty much useless.

Edit: I know it's a very annoying thing to say, but you really should try watching the whole series before passing judgement on it. A valid criticism is that it sort of fumbles around aimlessly in the first season and doesn't get to the point until after story.
I can get how people are annoyed by that, but it does create a so much stronger bond with the characters than if they had jumped right to the point.

I know I'm being very annoying, but Clannad changed the way I think about a couple of things in life and is the only show to have made me shed a tear. It hurts me to see someone blow it off after the three first episodes because they don't like the main characters.

What I'm saying is Don't judge a story because you don't like the main characters as persons.
 

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Elfen Lied.
OMFG this is probably one of most boring and _cliched_ anime i ever saw, yet there are legions of people who say "maaaaan, this is probably one of most f*cked up, goriest, scariest anime i ever saw"... ;]
 
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JesterRaiin said:
Elfen Lied.
OMFG this is probably one of most boring and _cliched_ anime i ever saw, yet there are legions of people who say "maaaaan, this is probably one of most f*cked up, goriest, scariest anime i ever saw"... ;]
Elfen Lied wouldn't have been so bad if the young female characters weren't naked at every opportunity.
 

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yay I thought I was the only one who finds Haruhi Suzumya boring as hell. So yeah, that's my first overrated anime. I started watching it and it's just so boring, I watched 2 episodes and dropped it.
The second one is Natsume. And I gave it 1 on my anime list, it's the only anime that got 1. It's horrible and I have no idea why it's rated 8.6. I watched the first season and it's crap. The main character is a dull perfect cardboard cut out that has no problem and expresses no emotions outside occasional Sasuke-like angst about being alone. Every episode was forgettable because there was a new character every time with some bullshit problem that always got solved at the end of the episode. The spirits themselves aren't interesting and the plot has one of the biggest plotholes I've ever seen. And you know what's really depressing? Director of Natsume directed anime like Hell girl and Durarara! How do you do that?
Third one - Code Geass. I honestly don't get why people like it so much. It's just a Deathnote ripoff with mechas. I only watched the first season and I didn't like it. At first I thought that it's going to be good but then I kinda noticed what a douchebag Lelouche is. You may say that Kira was also a douchebag and yes, I completely agree, but he was interesting and you could kinda related to him. Lelouche? It just seemed to me that his only goal is to take over the world, other than that he didn't display any other emotions. And then you add school because really, who doesn't want to see school life of students that fight with someone? It's It's not like we saw that. You could've made an interesting anime about mind control but you decided to just draw everyone like it's yaoi (and don't get me wrong, I love yaoi but it was so painfully obvious that they wanted us to feel that way towards the characters that it's not even entertaining) and gave mechas colorful capes which completely destroyed any respect I had for this anime.
Fourth one - Kuroshitsuju. I'll admit it, that when I first watched it I was in 'OMG ITS SO CUTE' state. But then a month passed, I remembered it again and I suddenly understood what utter crap it was. The butler is such an obvious Alucard ripofff that you could substitute the guy with Alucard and noone would see the diffirence (except for the fact that Alucard would probably kill Ciel after a few seconds of dialogue). There are giant plotholes and my suspension of disbelief was destroyed in the very first episode when we're told that a 10 year old works for a queen. The whole anime is just based on shonen-ai innuendos but that doesn't make your plot any better! The only reason Kuroshitsuji exists is because Ciel dresses in different gothic-19th century outfits and occasionally flirts with the butler.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
JesterRaiin said:
Elfen Lied.
OMFG this is probably one of most boring and _cliched_ anime i ever saw, yet there are legions of people who say "maaaaan, this is probably one of most f*cked up, goriest, scariest anime i ever saw"... ;]
Elfen Lied wouldn't have been so bad if the young female characters weren't naked at every opportunity.
Yeh thats the thing, if you remove the nudity from it then it actually makes it into a (well in my opinion anyway) pretty good dark show