Annoying stereotypes about my sexuality.
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Well all im saying is maybe they won't know what pan sexual is. I mean now a days every one knows what being bi, lesbain, and gay means. Yet pansexuality isn't quite as known.Cavan said:
I've met quite a few gay people during High School and University. They are generally alright and normal. You wouldn't know they are gay if they didn't tell you.
There are two types of gay people: Normal Gay people, who act like normal people and live their lives normally. These gay people or bisexual people are okay. They're fine. I have no problem with them.
Then there are those other gay people. The gay people who have watched too much E! TV and think that just because they are Gay they have to act like a badly written sitcom character. They affect annoyingly high-pitched voices - don't say they don't, they do. I've heard them talk with "normal" voices. They affect that accent sometimes, and it's annoying. I have a problem with anyone who says "Fabulous" more than once per hour. I have a problem with people calling me "Girlfriend", even when they know I'm not gay. I have a big problem with people who shrill and shriek and giggle and say things like "Oh my God!" and "That's so hot!" and "Check me out!". It's not because they are gay. It's because they talk like and look like vacuous ninnies. I have similar problems with "Valley girl" types, what with their stupid little hand-bags and chihuahuas and over-sized sunglasses who endlessly shriek and giggle and act like brain-damaged parakeets.
There are two types of gay people: Normal Gay people, who act like normal people and live their lives normally. These gay people or bisexual people are okay. They're fine. I have no problem with them.
Then there are those other gay people. The gay people who have watched too much E! TV and think that just because they are Gay they have to act like a badly written sitcom character. They affect annoyingly high-pitched voices - don't say they don't, they do. I've heard them talk with "normal" voices. They affect that accent sometimes, and it's annoying. I have a problem with anyone who says "Fabulous" more than once per hour. I have a problem with people calling me "Girlfriend", even when they know I'm not gay. I have a big problem with people who shrill and shriek and giggle and say things like "Oh my God!" and "That's so hot!" and "Check me out!". It's not because they are gay. It's because they talk like and look like vacuous ninnies. I have similar problems with "Valley girl" types, what with their stupid little hand-bags and chihuahuas and over-sized sunglasses who endlessly shriek and giggle and act like brain-damaged parakeets.
Righto, just to clarify. The stereotypes I am referring too are
1) LGBT men are all queens
and
2) Pansexuals are actually just Bisexuals; or as one lovely poster put it...
1) LGBT men are all queens
and
2) Pansexuals are actually just Bisexuals; or as one lovely poster put it...
SillyBear said:
Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, omnisexual, trisexual, quadsexual, metrosexual, ubersexual, dendrosexual...
Do I really have to memorize all these stupid neologisms?
Do I really have to memorize all these stupid neologisms?
No, I didn't say that. I said pansexuals are pretentious bisexuals. There is a difference.LogicArmour said:
And I don't expect you to agree with me at all. You're someone who labels themselves as a "pansexual". What a load of bullocks.
I call bullshit on anyone who claims that they don't even think about gender. It's like those people who claim that they don't recognise race. Nonsense. We're all a bit racist. We're all a bit sexist. Gender matters. To all of us.
Just because you're a new wave intellectual or someone who wants to set themselves apart doesn't mean you get to call your own facts.
And besides, even if I am wrong - even if you are a TRUE pansexual and even is pansexuality is ENTIRELY different to bisexuality, why the fuck do you care what I think? The fact you go out of your way to care so much about it seems to suggest even more to me that it isn't true.
I'm straight. If someone on the internet started saying that I'm not - I wouldn't give a shit. I'd just go fuck the opposite gender and go about my day. It's about having confidence in yourself.
Note, I am not attempting to diss you at all here. I'm just voicing my opinion on the issue. I am not attacking you, and if it comes across as that I apologise.
I care what you think because everyone's opinion deserves consideration and debate (even mine, which is why I started this thread). And for the record. That is a direct quote of you. And I can understand how you aren't directly directly attacking. However, just as I inadvertently called several of my friends dumb fucks (original post, it's beee edited since), you've called me a pretentious bisexual.SillyBear said:
Well I have always considered my self Bisexual but now I think I am Pansexual.
Have really not dwelled in to it that much because I don´t really care what form of sexuallity I am, I don´t hide it or "go out" with it because it´s really none of other people business.
Have really not dwelled in to it that much because I don´t really care what form of sexuallity I am, I don´t hide it or "go out" with it because it´s really none of other people business.
stop whining about your sexuality oh youre so special cause of that for fucks sake get over it.
Stop beeing an Attention whore and probably nobody will expect you to act like that. If you wouldnt shove your sexuality in everyones face like you are just doing people wouldnt expect behaviours like that from you cause realy you cant read someones sexuality from their face (or their dong for that matter) if they act like any other person.
Im sorry but this is getting annoying, every day there is a new thread of some homosexual complaining how he is misstreated while shoving his sexuality into everyones face and guess what everyone of them will cite some sexuality they are part of besides just calling it the blatantly obvious.
Because from reading that Wikipedia site is that it is, as a "loveley poster" put it the pretentious mans Bisexual.
What is it with Homosexuality lateley? Since when does it turn you Black?
Just to clarify this statement: just for posting youre homosexual people will always go how they respect you and how they feel guilty about stuff.
Homosexuals like to say themsleves that Heterosexuals should accept them in their society but STILL there are a few, and im not saying all here, i say a few, a few such as the OP who think they must shove their sexuality into everyones face and awaite the praising comments.
i mean come on.
Stop beeing an Attention whore and probably nobody will expect you to act like that. If you wouldnt shove your sexuality in everyones face like you are just doing people wouldnt expect behaviours like that from you cause realy you cant read someones sexuality from their face (or their dong for that matter) if they act like any other person.
Im sorry but this is getting annoying, every day there is a new thread of some homosexual complaining how he is misstreated while shoving his sexuality into everyones face and guess what everyone of them will cite some sexuality they are part of besides just calling it the blatantly obvious.
Because from reading that Wikipedia site is that it is, as a "loveley poster" put it the pretentious mans Bisexual.
What is it with Homosexuality lateley? Since when does it turn you Black?
Just to clarify this statement: just for posting youre homosexual people will always go how they respect you and how they feel guilty about stuff.
Homosexuals like to say themsleves that Heterosexuals should accept them in their society but STILL there are a few, and im not saying all here, i say a few, a few such as the OP who think they must shove their sexuality into everyones face and awaite the praising comments.
i mean come on.
Except for the large number of gay men who do act like that? It's not about orientation, or even really a stereotype: the kind of gay man who will hang out with vapid, shallow, oversexed women will himself BE vapid and shallow, because people associate with those who have common traits. Sex and the City is a piece of garbage that ought not be viewed by anyone anyway, but you might as well complain about it "stereotyping" women as drunken whores.LogicArmour said:Dear Everybody (especially females),
Sex in the City and other similar, shitty TV show are not an accurate portrayal of how the average LGBT man acts. Just because I appreciate dick does mean my tastes or behaviour will be any less masculine than a straight guy. Please get this through your skulls, it's starting to get on my tits.
On a related note (this time for everyone), Pansexuality is not bisexuality. Stop saying it is. When it gets to the point where I lie about my sexuality for the sake of simplicity, something has gone very wrong.
For those unaware as to what pansexuality is here's a wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality
The more you know people,
David (Pansexual)
P.s. I'm actually in quite a good mood at the moment, just thought I'd give a PSA
So, ranting aside, does anyone else have this problem?
As for pansexuality, get over yourself. Just fuck who you wanna fuck and don't bring unnecessary terminology into it.
sooo.....from this i gather that pan-sexuality is just bisexuality, but your willing to diddle a transvestite. wouldn't that still be OK under the unwritten, god given laws that bi-sex peeps live by? i imagine this law-bringer also wrote the rules for veganism, with the first rule being remind other people daily why you are better than them because if you don't then really whats the point, its not for the animals sake.
See, this is the reason why people don't believe in pansexuality.LogicArmour said:
It's not that they're "like bisexuals, but see past the person's gender!" it's more along the lines of they can also be attracted to any person with no gender-assigned or sexual-organ barrier, such as transgenders.
Maybe you understand this yourself, but the problem is a lot of people who are self-proclaimed 'pansexuals' speak as if pansexuals are romantic and lovely, while bisexuals are the 'greedy' perverse ones that fits the stereotypes still perpetuating today.
If you want to make a certain sexuality become more accepted, you have to know what you are on about, or at least explain it better.
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Mr 8Bit here has gotten it. I don't know why people do wish to bring labels with them, since I have seen people who are one sexuality or the other have that 'one exception' or 'this one time with this one guy/girl', why can't we just get the point where we just do whatever we want with whoever we want and not have to sit back, get self-reflexive, and try and cram ourselves into neat little boxes.8-Bit_Jack said:
Nature is hardly ever that conveniently neat.
My sex also gets a bad rep from Sex and the City (and pretty much everything 'edgy' on TV): I'm male.
A straight, white male, at that.
I'm all for this pansexual definition, but only as an academic pedant - I'd bet you there are tonnes of people who identify themselves as bisexual and would still sleep with someone 'between genders'. Hell, I'm straight and that doesn't bar me from sleeping with a transsexual - for the simple reason that to me, once you've been under the knife, for better or for worse, you are your new gender. And I'd care to wager I'm not the only one who thinks the same way.
You know, I've just realised that one day it's going to get trendy, sleeping with 'in-betweens' as the new fad. Until then, I'll just stick with my wife.
A straight, white male, at that.
I'm all for this pansexual definition, but only as an academic pedant - I'd bet you there are tonnes of people who identify themselves as bisexual and would still sleep with someone 'between genders'. Hell, I'm straight and that doesn't bar me from sleeping with a transsexual - for the simple reason that to me, once you've been under the knife, for better or for worse, you are your new gender. And I'd care to wager I'm not the only one who thinks the same way.
You know, I've just realised that one day it's going to get trendy, sleeping with 'in-betweens' as the new fad. Until then, I'll just stick with my wife.
Why are you concerned with masculinity if your a Pansexual?
Surely masculinity is part of someones appearance, mostly cosmetic, and something your apparantly immune to. Why do you even care what escapists think, it's the internet - I could proclaim to be Muterosexual, which means I am only attracted to women with moustaches, its such a terrible burdon that I just have to post about it on a gaming website.
Get over yourself, your sexuality CAN be private, I have much respect for people who just get on with their lives and don't make a song and dance about whether or not they make a song and dance about liking cock. Don't you think that most people here would rather discuss games and gaming culture, than sexual orientation (although, Pansexual just sounds like you get off on Disney cartoons). People need to stop labelling themselves based on Wiki pages, and stop getting peeved because nobody knows what they are defining themselves as. Can't you just be a gamer, and leave sexuality out of it. I mean, if there is one medium where it completely does not matter what floats your goat, it's videogames.
Surely masculinity is part of someones appearance, mostly cosmetic, and something your apparantly immune to. Why do you even care what escapists think, it's the internet - I could proclaim to be Muterosexual, which means I am only attracted to women with moustaches, its such a terrible burdon that I just have to post about it on a gaming website.
Get over yourself, your sexuality CAN be private, I have much respect for people who just get on with their lives and don't make a song and dance about whether or not they make a song and dance about liking cock. Don't you think that most people here would rather discuss games and gaming culture, than sexual orientation (although, Pansexual just sounds like you get off on Disney cartoons). People need to stop labelling themselves based on Wiki pages, and stop getting peeved because nobody knows what they are defining themselves as. Can't you just be a gamer, and leave sexuality out of it. I mean, if there is one medium where it completely does not matter what floats your goat, it's videogames.
I never said I was special, nor do I shove sexuality into everyones face. That's a rather large assumption to make. I just wish people would stop being shocked when I admit I don't care about interior design, and then saying "but you're bi/gay.". This exact scenario happens quite often. And posting a thread about it doesn't qualify me as an attention whore.Sordak said:
Also: Point of interest. We are technically similar to black people in the fact that we are both minority groups that suffer discrimination. Just at different levels of magnitude.