Anonymous Declares War on Australia

[Sark]

It would have been nice if the Australian people got to vote on whether we want internet restrictions/protection.

 

[Inco]

It would have been nice if the Australian people got to vote on whether we want internet restrictions/protection.

Unfortunately, that might be a problem also. As they can rig votes to their favour or use scare tactics (by saying that the only people to oppose this would be rapists and twisted human beings) They could use the ignorant people who don't know the internet, they just use it.

He hacked a government website to get a message across, if that website was not protected then what will a filter do? Things will just go through the cracks anyways and get through anyhows, it always does.

 

[Brett Alex]

On top of that, how is it not an attack on rights? While I'm not going to be out in the street with my 2+2=5 placard hurling molotovs at government buildings, its also pretty clear that having a secret list of blockable sites hidden from the public, and punishing anyone who publishes said list with $10,000 fines is an attack on individuals rights.

They're not on some secret list; they're publicised and they're mainly child porn sites and other sites of similar ilk. Whoop-dee-doo. I'm really feeling badly treated that fat fappers can't look at kids getting raped anymore.

Anyway, I lived with Chinese site blocks for years; it's not as bad as one might think. Wikipedia sometimes got blocked, and so did youtube, but it's a good thing that wikipedia got blocked - peice of crap source finds it's way into too many little kid's essays and gives them a get-out-of-jail-free card for not studying hard - and they had three sites that did exactly what youtube did, without airing bullshit sensationalist crap. And who cares if CNN gets cut out? Consider media's machinations for a while and you might find out that the people who own those stations don't care about the news, they run their news like an hour long commercial and get their ratings that way. There is no contemporary news story that lacks spin.

I don't care if Gears of War is banned - kiss my ass FPSers that game's a vicious pile of crap. I don't care if the next game to depict extreme violence gets banned - maybe then Australia's youth won't turn into the German, or USA stereotype kids who gunned down fellow students and crap and the future.

I also don't care if some gay internet comic gets banned - that and I hope 4chan gets banned. I'm sure that a year or so after those people got stripped of their respective opiates then they'll think the same thing: "Eh, it was a waste of life anyway, sitting on the computer 24/7"

I hate the internet, it makes people think they have some kind of right, some kind of say, when they've done fuck all to deserve it. Work hard at studies, makes lots of friends, get elected to office and make a difference, but don't think you have any say in the way things are run because you spend all your daylight hours with your chode in ur hand.

(God that was fun to write lol)

For someone who supposedly attended the Worlds Bestest High School you show an amazing amount of ignorance, a literal amazing amount of ignorance and naivety at, pretty much the whole world in general.

I don't have all night in one concentrated block for a rebuttal, sadly (I would really love to respond to this whole misinformed post point by point) so lets settle for a few highlights:

"They're not on some secret list"

ACMA said Australians caught distributing the list or accessing child pornography sites on the list could face criminal charges and up to 10 years in prison.

Nope, nothin' wrong there. Just a publicly available list. No evidence of Draconian censorship [http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2009/03/19/1237054961100.html] at all. I can get more linkages for you if you really want, but I think we can discuss this without pretending I'm making this all up.

"I don't care if Gears of War is banned - kiss my ass FPSers that game's a vicious pile of crap. I don't care if the next game to depict extreme violence gets banned - maybe then Australia's youth won't turn into the German, or USA stereotype kids who gunned down fellow students and crap and the future."

Do you even know what Gears of War is or did you just see the case as you walked by EB? Hell, do you even play videogames?

Your assumption leading on from that misstatement also lacks evidence, as numerous studies shows there is no direct causation between violent videogames and violence, none that could not also be said of any media.

"Anyway, I lived with Chinese site blocks for years; it's not as bad as one might think. Wikipedia sometimes got blocked, and so did youtube, but it's a good thing that wikipedia got blocked - peice of crap source finds it's way into too many little kid's essays "

I don't like Wikipedia, its biased and not fact checked that means we should be able to shut it and other websites off and never let anyone look at it ever and if they do we'll put them in prison na na na na na na na NOT LISTENING!!!

"I also don't care if some gay internet comic gets banned - that and I hope 4chan gets banned."

A democratic government has no right or recourse to decide how an individual spends their time within the bounds of the law. Just because you don't care doesn't mean other people should not be restricted about what they can't and can't view.

If you have read the proposed blacklist you will be well aware there are several sites on it that have nothing to do with rape/pedophiles/the monster in the closet, and there is no way for proprietors of these sites to get themselves removed from said blacklist. (One of the sites was a tour guides homesite, a tour guide of all things.)

"you spend all your daylight hours with your chode in ur hand."

Don't try to take away from me
My right to privacy what I
Do is no one's business but me

Why do you care what I do in my bedroom?
Why do you want to know how I screw?
It seems to me you've got nothing better

Courtesy of NoFX

Also, that assumption (there's that word again) is full of ignorance and stereotype.

"I'm really feeling badly treated that fat fappers can't look at kids getting raped anymore"

Because as soon as this firewall goes up they'll just stop trying to search for that shit, eh? Before the internet there was no such thing as pedophiles, am I right?

"I hate the internet"

Besides the argument crushing irony present there; feel free to leave anytime. It won't make it worse for the rest of us.



EDIT: Talendra just explained it better than I could.

Spoiler

Really the filtering will never happen. IT professionals have been telling them for ages that it is not feasible and will not work, they just insist on testing anyway.
If it does go through, it will be easily broken.

 

[Talendra]

Spoiler

Really the filtering will never happen. IT professionals have been telling them for ages that it is not feasible and will not work, they just insist on testing anyway.
If it does go through, it will be easily broken.

 

[DarkBlood626]

The only counter augment you need is this is discounting some of the obvious ones like (we have not but there word that they won?t abuse this; you can?t block all the illegal shit new sites are popping up every second. (the filter wont block file sharing) but let?s pretend there is some magic filter that will block all the porn that?s good right No 1stly because how impractical it will be to filter on an ISP level because of the magnitude to which internet will be slowed down, but the main and best point is the absolutely ridicules and unacceptable rate of false positives (falsely identifying sites as illegal) let?s say the best case scenario from their mouth (the best of the software claim to only a 1% false positive rate that?s ok right, NO disregarding the fact they are lying out of their teeth ,even if taken at their word given the fact there are around 1.8blilon websites a 1% false rate means 20 million sites will be falsely blocked. This will just be killing the small ISP?s and consolidating with the big players who are already fucking up the market/charging to much/giving shit service

Here?s a good vid on the subject (profanity warning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXSvzvQC5v0

 

[Stalk3rchief]

Ughh, Well 4chan will Dominate this world. An Attack on the Internet at ALL makes 4chan very angry and they gather and do some good for the world. Becoming Anonymous and saving Australia, Then burning it to the ground.

Sidenote: Not related to 4chan in anyway...

Rules #1 and 2.
Careful.

 

[Sharpeye42]

?Not only will your rights be at stake, our internet speeds will slow down by 70 percent, be mandatory for all Aussies and will not protect us from evil AT ALL.?

Either way, a government spokesman said the attack was misguided since the internet filtering plan only proposed to block content such as child porn and images depicting rape and bestiality.

I'm not quite sure were i stand in this problem but i like faster internet and most of the sites with child porn,images depicting rape and bestiality are already shut down... wait why does anything need to be done everything is fine already.

 

[Tartarga]

Oh if only Steve Erwin was still alive, he could avert this crisis. (by which i mean australias impending doom at the hands of the hackers)

 

[Archer147]

i say we go after the kangaroos...yumyum

kangaroo meat is beautiful, actually

 

[Archer147]

Oh if only Steve Erwin was still alive, he could avert this crisis. (by which i mean australias impending doom at the hands of the hackers)

first off, it's "Irwin"

second off, he was an idiot

third off, australia's problems cannot be solved by steve irwin, paul hogan (you know his as crocodile "that's not a knife" dundee), russel crowe, hugh jackman, or any other famous australian we ship over there to make money for us

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Actually, what drew Anonymous' gaze was the fact that the Cult of Scientology wholeheartedly support the Great Firewall of Australia.

 

[captainwillies]

good. im in australia. and if those laws are passed I'm fucked. T.V. news sucks ill be isolated from the outside

 

[captainwillies]

Actually, what drew Anonymous' gaze was the fact that the Cult of Scientology wholeheartedly support the Great Firewall of Australia.

for serious?

 

[captainwillies]

Of course Anonymous would want to protest this, even if what that government spokesman said is true. Most of us know of a certain cesspool of the internet, that shall remain unnamed, which Anonymous uses as its unofficial base of operations; and we all know that it contains the aforementioned child pornography and bestiality.

Actually, the mods have cleaned up 4chan a lot. It's now a ban-able suspense to upload child porn and suspension worthy to mention it.

That's why all the lolitards moved to 7chan. -shivers-

nope they in 12chan now. 12chan.org has its own jailbait and "girl" section

 

[fix-the-spade]

Way to show them the internet is not dangerous I guess....

The internet's like a herd of cows, harmless unless you provoke it.

Politicians need to learn that the 'series of tubes' is not going to be an easy target for cheap vote winning ploys like this. The spokesman says the attacks are misguided, yet he's the one trying to filter the internet. That's like trying to keep sand out of the Pacific, doomed to failure before you begin.

They'd be much beter off just monitoring the sites they don't like and knocking on the doors of people using the sites they really don't like like child porn etc.

 

[Asault001]

Stfu and go learn what is Anon.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Either way, a government spokesman said the attack was misguided since the internet filtering plan only proposed to block content such as child porn and images depicting rape and bestiality.

Are they also going to censor stories about rape? How do you know if the images depicting rape is actually rape or just acting? Are they also going to ban rape hentai or just 'live action' pictures? After all, in hentai it's just...well, a piece of art. Fairly disturbing piece of art from where I'm sat but it's art nonetheless and should be treated as such. But then, for pictures of 'actual' rape how do you know that's not equally as falsified as the hentai is? I would guess that it's damn sure easier to film a porn of a girl acting like she's being raped than getting away with an actual sex crime.

I get that rape is bad. No argument. But once you start censoring pictures, then you have to move on to words and then...well, slippery slope goes here.

Gotta say I don't really have much sympathy for the Aussie government. Sorry, censorship=bad. I may not always agree with Anonymous' tactics but I can't really fault them here.

Well, considering the Australian government places drawn images on the same grounds as real ones...

Having lolicon in Australia will likely get you arrested and charged as a paedophile just as if you had real pictures of actual children.

I wouldn't put it past the government to do the same thing with any other content they find objectionable...

Honestly, Australia is well past the 'slippery slope' point of no return if you ask me...
And I lived there for 2/3 of my life...

But then, that seems to be an ever-growing worldwide trend. And a lot of countries don't technically have any explicit rights to free speech to begin with, so it's hard to argue it on those grounds either.

We're only a short step away from thought crimes really.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Actually, what drew Anonymous' gaze was the fact that the Cult of Scientology wholeheartedly support the Great Firewall of Australia.

for serious?

100% Christ, took me forever to find this article;
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/07/0520225/Church-of-Scientology-Proposes-Net-Censorship-In-Australia?art_pos=17

 

[Epitome]

Censorship is never okay! The BS reason for the list not being published is that its illegal to publish the links catch22 you see, but the list should be published in part of all the sites they plan on banning. They even planed to ban wikileaks at one point, has nothing to do with child porn etc its just a site thats a nuiscence to gvernments and since they dont have to show the list why not tack it on. You try and argue and they say your in bed with the paeodphiles. Heres hoping democratic process will remove these idiots from power but im sitting behind a proxy to go on the bay atm and nobody seems to notice.

While I may not entirely agree with Anons method of doing things, they are at least doing something, even if it is shine a bad torch on it its still a torch.