Anonymous goes after Mexican drug cartels

[ecoho]

Los Zetas are made up of ruthless career criminals and ex-special forces from the Mexican military, they drive around the streets openly brandishing guns and not giving a fuck, they burn people alive in steel drums while throwing lead into said drum turning an innocent person into a soup of molten lead and body parts, they kidnap American citizens who come across the border without fear, the Mexican and American Governments together can't get rid of them, they train new members to use military weaponry and tactics, they make billions of dollars selling drugs, they turn children into cold blooded murderers.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

just want to point out that the US hasn't actually tried to actively eliminate the cartels just their drug trade. mostly due to the fact that the Mexican government doesn't like the idea of the US carpet bombing large sections of their country.(and not to be insincere but their government is highly corrupted and lets face it there's no chance of this ending till that's taken care of)

Their are still government officials who aren't bought yet, and hell corrupt government hasn't stopped the wheels of justice, we got Pablo Escabar and he might as well have owned the whole country, if the American and Mexican governments were more cooperative we might be able to throw a wrench in their operation.

i know that not all of their government is corrupt and that there are allot of good people working to end the drug war , problems is they tend to be in the minority.
hell if they would work together (mostly if US officials would learn to trust Mexican officials) then we could go out and end this little war once in for all.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Anon should stop being a Hacktivist group and start being an Activist group. Hacktivism wont do much against a Cartel, but real-life Activism could.

train a bunch of guy fawks dudes in armed combat?

actually, i support that...its productive and would be a good private business opportunity.

 

[Bigsmith]

I'm a lot more interested in what's going to happen on the 5th. I mean, it better be something good

On topic, I support Anon half the time, and this is the half I don't. I think they are getting to big for their boots, and attacking what ever computers they have really won't stop them for very long at all.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

But they haven't tried Megaman... or Batman!

Didn't you watch enough TV when you were a kid? All of the worlds problems can be solved VIA Card Game or Digital People.

Of course! It was so obvious!

 

[LarenzoAOG]

Los Zetas are made up of ruthless career criminals and ex-special forces from the Mexican military, they drive around the streets openly brandishing guns and not giving a fuck, they burn people alive in steel drums while throwing lead into said drum turning an innocent person into a soup of molten lead and body parts, they kidnap American citizens who come across the border without fear, the Mexican and American Governments together can't get rid of them, they train new members to use military weaponry and tactics, they make billions of dollars selling drugs, they turn children into cold blooded murderers.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

Imagine if they had billions stashed in a Swiss bank account that suddenly disappeared? Don't think anonymous is capable of that but imagine?

Maybe in that case their skills would come in handy, but a group like Los Zetas is more likely to deal in cash only, other wise the people trying to take them down would freeze their accounts, most know criminal organizations deal only in cash for that reason.

 

[boag]

Anon should stop being a Hacktivist group and start being an Activist group. Hacktivism wont do much against a Cartel, but real-life Activism could.

How exactly would an activist group be more effective than a Hacktivist group?

 

[LarenzoAOG]

Los Zetas are made up of ruthless career criminals and ex-special forces from the Mexican military, they drive around the streets openly brandishing guns and not giving a fuck, they burn people alive in steel drums while throwing lead into said drum turning an innocent person into a soup of molten lead and body parts, they kidnap American citizens who come across the border without fear, the Mexican and American Governments together can't get rid of them, they train new members to use military weaponry and tactics, they make billions of dollars selling drugs, they turn children into cold blooded murderers.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

Okay. To be frank, they haven't tried jack shit. I was born and raised in Mexico, and the country itself has been trying to get rid of them internally.

The U.S. has been trying to shut down their drug buisness, but the best they can do is stop some of the drugs and money coming over the border, the Mexican authorities have tried to hurt them, but haven't been very succsesful.

Where both are failing is not cooperating, it's been done before, Pablo Escobar got taken down by the search Bloc, Delta Force operatives from the U.S. and Los Pepes, the problem is the high amount of corruption in the Mexican government and the apathy of most of the U.S. is preventing any kind of team work.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

Los Zetas are made up of ruthless career criminals and ex-special forces from the Mexican military, they drive around the streets openly brandishing guns and not giving a fuck, they burn people alive in steel drums while throwing lead into said drum turning an innocent person into a soup of molten lead and body parts, they kidnap American citizens who come across the border without fear, the Mexican and American Governments together can't get rid of them, they train new members to use military weaponry and tactics, they make billions of dollars selling drugs, they turn children into cold blooded murderers.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

just want to point out that the US hasn't actually tried to actively eliminate the cartels just their drug trade. mostly due to the fact that the Mexican government doesn't like the idea of the US carpet bombing large sections of their country.(and not to be insincere but their government is highly corrupted and lets face it there's no chance of this ending till that's taken care of)

Their are still government officials who aren't bought yet, and hell corrupt government hasn't stopped the wheels of justice, we got Pablo Escabar and he might as well have owned the whole country, if the American and Mexican governments were more cooperative we might be able to throw a wrench in their operation.

Yeah, either that or the US could just decriminalize hard drugs. That would kill off the majority of the cartel in one swoop, without wasting money or losing lives.

That'll never happen, we still have a very puritanical view on drugs, hell we still have problems legalizing pot, possibly the safest drug in the world.

Off-topic: Love your avatar, that is the best show on telivision.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

Los Zetas are made up of ruthless career criminals and ex-special forces from the Mexican military, they drive around the streets openly brandishing guns and not giving a fuck, they burn people alive in steel drums while throwing lead into said drum turning an innocent person into a soup of molten lead and body parts, they kidnap American citizens who come across the border without fear, the Mexican and American Governments together can't get rid of them, they train new members to use military weaponry and tactics, they make billions of dollars selling drugs, they turn children into cold blooded murderers.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

just want to point out that the US hasn't actually tried to actively eliminate the cartels just their drug trade. mostly due to the fact that the Mexican government doesn't like the idea of the US carpet bombing large sections of their country.(and not to be insincere but their government is highly corrupted and lets face it there's no chance of this ending till that's taken care of)

Their are still government officials who aren't bought yet, and hell corrupt government hasn't stopped the wheels of justice, we got Pablo Escabar and he might as well have owned the whole country, if the American and Mexican governments were more cooperative we might be able to throw a wrench in their operation.

i know that not all of their government is corrupt and that there are allot of good people working to end the drug war , problems is they tend to be in the minority.
hell if they would work together (mostly if US officials would learn to trust Mexican officials) then we could go out and end this little war once in for all.

Too true, but too much of the U.S. just doesn't give a fuck, they think the whole problem is in Mexico, and to be fair the drugs and violence we get from the cartels on our side is nothing near as bad as in Mexico, it is still a very real danger, and it's spilling over more and more every year.

But the sad truth is a lot of Americans couldn't care less about Mexico's problems, despite the fact that any problem your neighbor has will eventually become your problem too.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

While I agree that Anon doesn't stand much chance of stopping them, I would hardly say that the US Government has tried every trick in the book. Our cooperation with Mexico has hardly been something to write home about, and most of it is just trying to intercept drugs and keep them from entering the country. If Los Zetas did anything stupid enough to galvanize the US Government into real action, they wouldn't stand a chance. Kill enough US citizens, attack a target on US Soil or anything that would prompt the US to take serious action. Hell, the Governor of Texas is practically chomping at the bit to send his armed forces down to the mexican border.

And they're not invincible, of the 31 original members of Los Zetas most of them are either dead or in jail. In fact the founder and former leader, Arturo Decena, was killed way back in 2002 by another cartel.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: There's always hope. Sure, I don't think Anon are going to bring down the cartel, but don't go believing they're some invulnerable military power. In the end they're still just thugs with too much ego and not enough humanity.

Los Zetas does hurt U.S. citezens though, they kidnapped a couple of teenage girls a few years back, and I don't think that was ever resolved. And I was reffering to our side of the border, if only our governments cooperated we could take them down in maybe as little as a few months, I know I've been using Escobar as my yard stick for this entire thread but I think it quite prevalent, teamwork is a very powerful thing, the rest of the U.S. needs to wisen up.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

Los Zetas are made up of ruthless career criminals and ex-special forces from the Mexican military, they drive around the streets openly brandishing guns and not giving a fuck, they burn people alive in steel drums while throwing lead into said drum turning an innocent person into a soup of molten lead and body parts, they kidnap American citizens who come across the border without fear, the Mexican and American Governments together can't get rid of them, they train new members to use military weaponry and tactics, they make billions of dollars selling drugs, they turn children into cold blooded murderers.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANON PLAN TO STOP THEM USING THE INTERNET WHEN TWO NORTH AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO TAKE THEM DOWN?!?

just want to point out that the US hasn't actually tried to actively eliminate the cartels just their drug trade. mostly due to the fact that the Mexican government doesn't like the idea of the US carpet bombing large sections of their country.(and not to be insincere but their government is highly corrupted and lets face it there's no chance of this ending till that's taken care of)

Their are still government officials who aren't bought yet, and hell corrupt government hasn't stopped the wheels of justice, we got Pablo Escabar and he might as well have owned the whole country, if the American and Mexican governments were more cooperative we might be able to throw a wrench in their operation.

Yeah, either that or the US could just decriminalize hard drugs. That would kill off the majority of the cartel in one swoop, without wasting money or losing lives.

That'll never happen, we still have a very puritanical view on drugs, hell we still have problems legalizing pot, possibly the safest drug in the world.

Off-topic: Love your avatar, that is the best show on telivision.

Thats too true, unfortunately, and thats why Mexico and the US can invest as much as they want into taking down the cartel, they will not succeed. They basically presented them a massive market on a silver platter with the war on drugs.

(By the by, "we"? I kinda guessed you were German when I saw your avatar. Maybe its just some reference I dont get.)

(And yeah, Breaking Bad is awesome.)

We can take out the cartels, temporarily, they will leave a void for other scumbags to fill, but that's like saying you can be on fire all the time or you can do a little work to put out the fire out for a bit every now and then, and I for one would rather be on fire most of the time rather than all the time.

Also I'm American, I lived in Germany for half a dozen years as a kid.

 

[boag]

Yeah, either that or the US could just decriminalize hard drugs. That would kill off the majority of the cartel in one swoop, without wasting money or losing lives.

If the US decriminalizes hard drugs, is the US gonna decriminalize Slave trade too?

 

[LarenzoAOG]

I'll said it before and I'll say it again.
WHO THE FUCK CARES!?

If you are reffering to the problems caused by cartels:

Spoiler

Millions of innocent Mexicans, many of whom have suffered at the hands of inhuman scum, thousands of young girls kidnapped by the cartels to be sold into sex slavery or given as gifts to people who will use them and discard them, the friends and family of those that OD on the cartels drugs, and many Americans that live in fear that eventually the same will happen to them.

If you are reffering to Anon's silly plan to do something about it:

Spoiler

Probably no one.

 

[Fishyash]

They then took back that threat, meaning they will do nothing, probably because the cartel sent them a finger of their friend or something.

Where did you get that from? I really want to know where I can be up to date on this...

Took what from?

If you check the links and the wiki page on it then it says they revoked the threat.

Was in a bit of a rush heh, sorry I didn't clarify, but the 'anonymous revoked the threat' part.

I checked the links (on the thread you're tlaking about right?), maybe I didn't read them thoroughly enough? I didn't see any news article mention it, even after google searching.

And... wiki page?

As I said, I'm not quite up to date on this.

Also I forgot to add my opinion on this thread;

I have a feeling anonymous might be going a little too far. This is a much more sensetive situation.

EDIT: I like editing my posts.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Its about spreading information. Thats what does the damage. Taking private info and giving it to others.I would thought that drug cartels would already be on top of this. Mostly all that are arrested are lower dealers etc. The people at the top, they are free to do what they will. They keep themselves away from the drugs etc. Anon wont do anything apart from name dealers and low level people. Maybe fuck up FBI investigations in the process. ANON need to fuck off and get a girlfriend.

 

[boag]

Yeah, either that or the US could just decriminalize hard drugs. That would kill off the majority of the cartel in one swoop, without wasting money or losing lives.

If the US decriminalizes hard drugs, is the US gonna decriminalize Slave trade too?

Comparing drug abuse to slave trade, are we?

I wont even bother. I see the point your making, but its a weak one.

IM not comparing anything.

People that keep saying that decriminalizing drugs will stop the cartels from doing what they do, keep forgetting that they also deal in slavery, and its just as profitable for them as the drug trade is.

Decriminalizing drugs is not a solution.