Anonymous PSN Attackers Arrested in Spain

[Reaganomics]

Is it just me or does one of those things they attacked seem out of place?
Banks, governments and Sony, which of these does not belong?

It seems people here just assume that because they were arrested they are guilty.
Clearly because they were arrested, they are guilty we should wish rape and torture upon them, mostly because I couldn't play video games for a month. /sarcasm

 

[Sovvolf]

How do I know that Spain probably doesn't understand that they did nothing to actually harm anon in the long run? They used the term leaders in reference to Anonymous.

Also, whether you feel it stupid or smart, it shouldn't be your choice, my choice or anons choice on what people can and can't do with their own information. Its theirs to use as they please regardless on whether its a good decision or not. Thats the freedom they should have. What right does anyone have to take that away from them?.

You have me there, everyone has the right to be stupid. I was just caring to much for others.

Nothing wrong with caring about others. However there's a big difference between telling a fellow that he should lock his door more often in case of burglars, and breaking in to steal his shit just to prove a point .

That is mildly inaccurate. What anonymous did was notice that a bank keeps its vault unlocked at night and so broke down the front door and took a shit on the floor to prove a point. Sure they are huge dicks for doing this but at least they didn't steal anything.

Well it depends on how you look at it, they did (apparently) steal peoples personal information and (while I may have my sources wrong (I'm sure I heard it here or on the news) so this could be highly inaccurate) start selling it or putting it around on the internet. The furniture = information PSN = our house... they broke in and stole our shit.

Though as said, my memory may be off and if so, we'll stick with your analogy . Either way, dick move. However, as I put in a previous post, I'm not really angry at anyone, I benefited from this (a couple free games) however its more the principle of the mater.

Also I imagine you quoted me in an edit as it didn't pop up in the message box (for some strange reason)... So there may have been a significant delay between you posting and me replying and for that I do apologise.

 

[mip0]

These replies really surprise me, I thought we would be taking about whether they're guilty or not. Instead it seems most are taking that for granted and talk about their punishment and stuff.
I just think it's sort of probable that those who hacked PSN are good and careful enough to not let anyone find out who they are.

 

[Conza]

Anonymous PSN Attackers Arrested in Spain

Police have "dismantled the Anonymous hacker group in Spain" with the arrest of three alleged local leaders in connection with the April attack on the PlayStation Network.

Spain's National Police said the three men are the "local leadership" of Anonymous, the hacker group blamed for bringing down the PlayStation Network [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tag/psn%20down?from_search=1] for more than a month beginning in mid-April. A server which was allegedly used in the PSN hack, as well as separate attacks on two Spanish banks, an Italian energy company and government sites in Spain, Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Iran and elsewhere, was found in an apartment owned by one of the men, who was arrested "sometime after May 18" in the city of Almería; the other two were detained "recently" in Barcelona and Valencia. All three men are in their 30s.

"Spanish Police dismantle the Anonymous hacker group in Spain. They attacked [the] PlayStation Store," the police reported on its official warning [http://twitter.com/SpanishPolice] that it is legion and should be expected.

The arrests follow an investigation which was actually launched after an attack on Spain's Ministry of Culture website, protesting legislation which imposed tougher punishments for illegal file sharing. The May 18 arrest in Almería that got the ball rolling was prompted by an attack on the Spanish National Electoral Commission ahead of regional and municipal elections. It's not known how much of a role the trio actually played in the attack on the PlayStation Network.

The three men have been released without bail and are expected to be charged with "forming an illegal association to attack public and corporate web sites." If found guilty, they could be sentenced to up to three years in jail.

Source: New York Times [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/technology/11hack.html?_r=3]


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This news is about half as good as the news about Osama Bin Laden - and that news was friggin awesome.

That's right, we caught the f**kers, and I hope they are fined to the point of near outrageousness, and kept in cells for atleast 10 years... should I read the article first on what they plan to do?..

 

[Simriel]

I wanna see pics with names. Take away all anonymity. Also that "We are legion threat". you'd think that they would learn that being an internet "Menace" Doesn't translate over to real life. they know your just some pathetic kids who probably can't do anything about using your computer the way other people tell you to little script kiddies.

Given that like 90% of the worlds defence, banking, consumer infrastructure and general workings are run by computers with online networking? Yeah... Hackers can do A LOT!

And if you are dependent on those things then yeah. Maybe it can scare you. But when you aren't and know how to live without it there is really nothing they can do. Also Hackers is one thing. Most of anonymous is just, like i said, script kiddies. They are given directions on how to do certain things and that is what they do. Hell i did it myself for awhile out of boredom.

Which is exactly why you are living without your computer right now? The worlds nuclear weapons are technically hackable you tool, there ARE things to be afraid of even if you ain't a tech person. A skilled, dedicated, resourced group of hackers could bring the global infrastructure to its knees.

Yeah but i highly doubt a "Skilled Hacker" is going to destroy the planet "For the lulz" I go on my computer to pass time. I'm not dependent on it. I can plant my own crops. I know about crop rotation and have books on everything i would need them on. And right now there is something in space called a neutron star. It is so amazingly powerful our planet could be rendered to cinders and there would be 0 warning from it. So being afraid of things that could kill you here are kinda pointless when at any moment we could all die without warning.

Have you ever planted crops? Have you ever actually DONE any of the things you are talking about?

 

[pliusmannn]

lol. You could arrest every living being who uses internet and tell it's Anon. I don't believe The Legion attacked PSN in the first place...

 

[JoJo Bizzaro 7]

Idiots. Stop claiming to "hate" Anonymous. It is not some nefarious hacker collective. Anonymous is an ideal.
Anonymous was not arrested, people were. Anonymous is innocent.

Get your heads out of your asses. Please.

 

[Popido]

That is mildly inaccurate. What anonymous did was notice that a bank keeps its vault unlocked at night and so broke down the front door and took a shit on the floor to prove a point. Sure they are huge dicks for doing this but at least they didn't steal anything.

Simple question here. WHY? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF DOING THAT?

People wouldnt belive otherwise. Which is why some IT experts, who have been trying to get this message thru, are delighted by these events.

That is the single most messed up excuse I've ever heard..
Hell, Anonymous keeps claiming it wasn't them as well, even though they can't legitimately say that because how would they know who is involved in anything their own group does because everyone is anonymo---OH GOD MY BRAIN IS ON FIRE.

Now now, dont build yourself into a paradox there. Just replace the word "Anonymous" with "people" and repeat what you just said.

This news is about half as good as the news about Osama Bin Laden - and that news was friggin awesome.

That's right, we caught the f**kers, and I hope they are fined to the point of near outrageousness, and kept in cells for atleast 10 years... should I read the article first on what they plan to do?..

This is actually even better than catching Obama. You really did it this time. The 12th time you catched these f**kers. Thats like, 4 times catching Obama!

 

[Canid117]

That is mildly inaccurate. What anonymous did was notice that a bank keeps its vault unlocked at night and so broke down the front door and took a shit on the floor to prove a point. Sure they are huge dicks for doing this but at least they didn't steal anything.

Simple question here. WHY? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF DOING THAT? It's just being a nuisance and fucking with shit that isn't theirs to fuck with! If they fuck with it, they're no better than criminals. They're not helping anyone. NO ONE should be breaking in to shit that isn't theirs.

But people do. So I guess Sony is just lucky it was anon trying to be funny than an actual thief trying to steal actual money.[/quote]

That is the single most messed up excuse I've ever heard..
Hell, Anonymous keeps claiming it wasn't them as well, even though they can't legitimately say that because how would they know who is involved in anything their own group does because everyone is anonymo---OH GOD MY BRAIN IS ON FIRE.[/quote]

If anyone has actually had their money stolen then I will concede to your argument sir but as 700,000 bank accounts werent drained an hour after the breach I can safely say that it could have been much worse.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

To quote one Nelson Muntz: HA-HA!

 

[JET1971]

Sony says they found a file that claims Anon hacked them and all Sony fans assume Anon did but all evidence based on Anons modus operandi points to Anon not actualy hacking them. I love ignorance.

 

[MattAn24]

This news is about half as good as the news about Osama Bin Laden - and that news was friggin awesome.

That's right, we caught the f**kers, and I hope they are fined to the point of near outrageousness, and kept in cells for atleast 10 years... should I read the article first on what they plan to do?..

This is actually even better than catching Obama. You really did it this time. The 12th time you catched these f**kers. Thats like, 4 times catching Obama!

I'm going to assume you meant Osama there..
Anyway.. No. Replacing the word Anonymous with people makes even less sense. Because not all people are immature dicks just trying to fuck with other people's shit. Anonymous is NOT everyone or whatever the fuck they claim. They DO NOT represent everyone's "best interests". They HAVE when it was actually legitimate problems like political corruption/catching felons, but the 4chan wankers (iPhone just autocorrected that to ramjets..) got involved "for the lulz", which is just plain wrong and immature. They need to grow up.

NOTHING is 100% secure. Probably never will be. Hacking/breaking in to it is NOT the answer. HELP the companies/organizations improve the quality of their service/security, don't fuck with it or take advantage of exploits.. That's just a dick move. Why can't people be more honest!?

 

[MattAn24]

Sony says they found a file that claims Anon hacked them and all Sony fans assume Anon did but all evidence based on Anons modus operandi points to Anon not actualy hacking them. I love ignorance.

So, the AnonOps admin didn't hack them, thanks for the obvious update.

But if *anyone* can be "Anonymous" (using the fucked up logic of their own "rules"), Anonymous was involved. As the so-called commandments state (Anonymous is NOT the ruler of the internet, fuck right off, that makes the whole freedom excuse entirely useless), "Anonymous is no one and anyone" (WHAT.), so therefore ANYONE that has involvement with Anonymous IS Anonymous. By their own logic, they did it.

 

[MattAn24]

If anyone has actually had their money stolen then I will concede to your argument sir but as 700,000 bank accounts werent drained an hour after the breach I can safely say that it could have been much worse.

Oh? Didn't hear about the Australian man that had $2000 disappear from his account right after the Sony data breach?

Your logic makes zero sense.. How do you know information isn't stolen by certain members of Anonymous? They hack in, like any other "black hat" hacker and deface the shit out of the page. Who is to say whether or not someone takes copies of information, even prints stuff on paper? NO ONE should be in any restricted areas of websites, where personal ID is kept. Anonymous/LulzSec/whatever other stupid and wildly immature name they come up with doing it is just as much illegal as any fuckwit actually after information.

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Only three years?

Well, hackers can't jailbreak their way out of this one

OT: I do hope this the start of something. We really need to catch these people

OH! I see what you did there.

Can someone explain to me how one can arrest the leaders of a leaderless group?

There are leaders for Anonymous, just a large amount of them and spread globally.

OT: About time some of them got a boot to their arse. So far they're proving to be immature gits with technology instead of actually making a good point like they used to.

 

[JET1971]

Sony says they found a file that claims Anon hacked them and all Sony fans assume Anon did but all evidence based on Anons modus operandi points to Anon not actualy hacking them. I love ignorance.

So, the AnonOps admin didn't hack them, thanks for the obvious update.

But if *anyone* can be "Anonymous" (using the fucked up logic of their own "rules"), Anonymous was involved. As the so-called commandments state (Anonymous is NOT the ruler of the internet, fuck right off, that makes the whole freedom excuse entirely useless), "Anonymous is no one and anyone" (WHAT.), so therefore ANYONE that has involvement with Anonymous IS Anonymous. By their own logic, they did it.

When you get off work and go home and do something wrong such as kill a puppy is your work responsible for your actions?

Anon as a group does operations, these are official operations coordinated through the Anon IRC channels. only those coordinated ops are official Anon. if 3 members coordinate a hack outside the IRC channels then they are acting alone and not as part of Anon itself. Anything that Anon does is through the IRC channels and stated at http://anonnews.org/ .

Anon ops are listed here: http://anonnews.org/ there is nothing in that list about them hacking PSN and getting personal information on PSN customers. infact there is not one single op in all of them that says anything at all about the goal is to get peoples CC numbers, usernames, and passwords. thus modus operandi of Anon is not anything like the PSN hack.

Anon does not leave a calling card at the scene of the crime except webpage defacement, they say what they did and will do at http://anonnews.org/ there has not been a single hack before or after the PSN hack where Anon left a file saying they were there. modus operandi again.

Anon leadership is whomever starts and coordinates an op that other members agree to and join in. not an official leader but a coordinator for that particular op. thus the hydra head. anyone can be a leader, but nobody leads all.

*edit
http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=848

While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves AnonOps wa not related to this incident and takes no responsiblity for it. A more likely explination is that Sony is taking advantage of Anonymous' previous ill-will towards the company to distract users from the fact the outage is accutally an internal problem with the companies servers.



TLR

Sony is incompetent.

AS in "it may have been one of our people but they did it on there own so fuck them". as in my first sentance in this post.

 

[Relaver]

If were lucky they will be shived with carrots. Zing!

 

[JET1971]

Sorry wrong thread...

 

[OrokuSaki]

Am I the only one who like religiously reads all these threads? The attack on PSN wasn't performed by anonymous as a group, but was most likely performed by one of the offshoot branches of anonymous that have shown up in the past few years.
There are 2 if not 3 branches of anonymous itself. One is the group that claims that they didn't do it. The second is lulsec and they MIGHT have done it, I mean, they claim responsibility for everything else that happened to Sony, so why aren't they credited? And the third is whatever group attacked the PSN (If it's not, as I said, lulsec).
So I understand they have the server so they ARE with the responsible party, wouldn't this be a good time to figure out which of the factions actually did take down the PSN instead of awarding a medal to the people who caught the hackers?