Anonymous Sends a Letter to the World

[Dasmaster]

By your responses, you're talking out of your ass and regurgitating information that's been fed to you. You think you know, but you really don't. See my above post.

No, my response was actually because I am sick of people arguing with me by just saying "nope, your wrong" to all evidence I put forth without them providing anything to refute it.

The fact is that anonymous is everything that you've ever seen on the internet and more. They're all of these things and none of these things. They're contradiction, chaos, and offensiveness. They're offensive because they can be. They help people because it's unexpected. They piss people off for lulz. Yet, all of these things together link up one thing that is nonexistent in anonymous: purpose. There is no purpose to anonymous' actions, nor will there ever be. It's not "anon's an ass" or "anon's helping people", anon simply is.

Does not refute any point I have made.

Dont you get it? You can not criticise Anonymous. Nor can you praise it. Because its nothing you CAN praise its just plain simlpe Anonymous and thats it.

You can try all you want but its utterly impossible for anonymous to make a propaganda video due to the very nature of the organisation. And that was a message not a description of anonymous...

 

[Dasmaster]

i dont know about you guys but this is fucking interesting to me

this is almost like a hive mind that reaches consensus with no leader and no votes, they all just kind of decide to do this

its just so interesting i cant even put it into words

I know its freaking awesome. Just wish more people could see it.

 

[Squidden]

Whoever wrote this is a good advertiser. I couldn't help but read it in a powerful, omnipresent-sounding voice with a patriotic flag in the background.

Whether they are pretentious or not, they at least sound powerful while doing it.

 

[Naheal]

By your responses, you're talking out of your ass and regurgitating information that's been fed to you. You think you know, but you really don't. See my above post.

No, my response was actually because I am sick of people arguing with me by just saying "nope, your wrong" to all evidence I put forth without them providing anything to refute it.

Have you not been fucking listening? You're judging an organization that doesn't fucking exist. They get organized, yes, but organization does not denote hierarchy. You seem to think that there's going to be a representation of anonymous somewhere with a person.

Protip: It doesn't exist.

The fact is that anonymous is everything that you've ever seen on the internet and more. They're all of these things and none of these things. They're contradiction, chaos, and offensiveness. They're offensive because they can be. They help people because it's unexpected. They piss people off for lulz. Yet, all of these things together link up one thing that is nonexistent in anonymous: purpose. There is no purpose to anonymous' actions, nor will there ever be. It's not "anon's an ass" or "anon's helping people", anon simply is.

Does not refute any point I have made.

I have yet to see a point about anonymous be made beyond "anonymous has done shit in the past". Everything else that you've spouted has been bile and rage fueled opinion. You want someone to represent anonymous; it's not going to fucking happen. Nice try, but no. That's not how it works. Period. I'm sorry that your views on the internet entity known as anonymous don't meet your standards of being a human being... no wait, I'm really not. Anonymous wasn't, isn't, nor will ever be, a human being, yet you want a human to represent it.

Again, it's not going to happen. Ever. No matter how much you scream for it, there isn't gong to be a single person who comes forth to speak because such a person doesn't exist.

 

[Tdc2182]

I can sum up all of that with "It was just some guy saying"...

This does not in anyway shape or form represent anonymous, no matter how much you or that guy want it to. Your basically trying to put sticky-notes with different attributes onto air.

So your defense for that is pretty much "Nah ah".

Right.

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

Come up with an actual defense for something instead of just claiming I'm wrong.

.... Why would they care? Anonymous as an entity is untouchable. You can neither say its something or claim its not. Naheal put it wonderfully: Anonymous just IS.

Sure go attack there actions all you want. Even if you find out a few members your free to attack them too but until then its a flawless defence since you cant prove anything.

You asked for the promotional video, I gave you the promotional video.

You immediately come back and say I'm wrong.

I give up.

Believe what you want, just give me mercy to get out of this bat shit stupid argument.

 

[Tdc2182]

By your responses, you're talking out of your ass and regurgitating information that's been fed to you. You think you know, but you really don't. See my above post.

No, my response was actually because I am sick of people arguing with me by just saying "nope, your wrong" to all evidence I put forth without them providing anything to refute it.

Have you not been fucking listening? You're judging an organization that doesn't fucking exist. They get organized, yes, but organization does not denote hierarchy. You seem to think that there's going to be a representation of anonymous somewhere with a person.

Protip: It doesn't exist.

The fact is that anonymous is everything that you've ever seen on the internet and more. They're all of these things and none of these things. They're contradiction, chaos, and offensiveness. They're offensive because they can be. They help people because it's unexpected. They piss people off for lulz. Yet, all of these things together link up one thing that is nonexistent in anonymous: purpose. There is no purpose to anonymous' actions, nor will there ever be. It's not "anon's an ass" or "anon's helping people", anon simply is.

Does not refute any point I have made.

I have yet to see a point about anonymous be made beyond "anonymous has done shit in the past". Everything else that you've spouted has been bile and rage fueled opinion. You want someone to represent anonymous; it's not going to fucking happen. Nice try, but no. That's not how it works. Period. I'm sorry that your views on the internet entity known as anonymous don't meet your standards of being a human being... no wait, I'm really not. Anonymous wasn't, isn't, nor will ever be, a human being, yet you want a human to represent it.

Again, it's not going to happen. Ever. No matter how much you scream for it, there isn't gong to be a single person who comes forth to speak because such a person doesn't exist.

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Did I ever say that it was represented by a human?

And yes, I am saying they have done shit in the past. And I am denoting those actions they have done.

Keep going, you're on a roll.

 

[Dasmaster]

I can sum up all of that with "It was just some guy saying"...

This does not in anyway shape or form represent anonymous, no matter how much you or that guy want it to. Your basically trying to put sticky-notes with different attributes onto air.

So your defense for that is pretty much "Nah ah".

Right.

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

Come up with an actual defense for something instead of just claiming I'm wrong.

.... Why would they care? Anonymous as an entity is untouchable. You can neither say its something or claim its not. Naheal put it wonderfully: Anonymous just IS.

Sure go attack there actions all you want. Even if you find out a few members your free to attack them too but until then its a flawless defence since you cant prove anything.

You asked for the promotional video, I gave you the promotional video.

You immediately come back and say I'm wrong.

I give up.

Believe what you want, just give me mercy to get out of this bat shit stupid argument.

Sure go, i have debated with some really thick Christians and Muslims in my days and i know when someone just wont get it...

EDIT:
Due to the nature of Anonymous Not one single event, action can be connected to eachoter. For all we know the people behind it stopped being anonymous long ago or is not involved. So even if it had only done bad things before (which is a lie) it would not have any bearing on how the next mission will turn out. NONE WHAT SO EVER. Also anon#1 and anon#2 do not need to have anything in common.... can you understand this?

 

[Naheal]

By your responses, you're talking out of your ass and regurgitating information that's been fed to you. You think you know, but you really don't. See my above post.

No, my response was actually because I am sick of people arguing with me by just saying "nope, your wrong" to all evidence I put forth without them providing anything to refute it.

Have you not been fucking listening? You're judging an organization that doesn't fucking exist. They get organized, yes, but organization does not denote hierarchy. You seem to think that there's going to be a representation of anonymous somewhere with a person.

Protip: It doesn't exist.

The fact is that anonymous is everything that you've ever seen on the internet and more. They're all of these things and none of these things. They're contradiction, chaos, and offensiveness. They're offensive because they can be. They help people because it's unexpected. They piss people off for lulz. Yet, all of these things together link up one thing that is nonexistent in anonymous: purpose. There is no purpose to anonymous' actions, nor will there ever be. It's not "anon's an ass" or "anon's helping people", anon simply is.

Does not refute any point I have made.

I have yet to see a point about anonymous be made beyond "anonymous has done shit in the past". Everything else that you've spouted has been bile and rage fueled opinion. You want someone to represent anonymous; it's not going to fucking happen. Nice try, but no. That's not how it works. Period. I'm sorry that your views on the internet entity known as anonymous don't meet your standards of being a human being... no wait, I'm really not. Anonymous wasn't, isn't, nor will ever be, a human being, yet you want a human to represent it.

Again, it's not going to happen. Ever. No matter how much you scream for it, there isn't gong to be a single person who comes forth to speak because such a person doesn't exist.

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Did I ever say that it was represented by a human?

And yes, I am saying they have done shit in the past. And I am denoting those actions they have done.

Keep going, you're on a roll.

Pretending we're Clinton, now, are we? "I did not have sexual relations" and all that?

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

What do you want there, hmm? "Any anon" would denote Anon the entity coming in and saying "Hehe, lulz", which isn't going to happen on a board like this and you know it. If putting your own words in your mouth is putting words in your mouth, then I'm guilty as charged.

 

[SimuLord]

Anon are cyber-terrorists with an inflated sense of their own importance and one hell of a Messiah complex.

I think you got it right, here.

But you have to admit, they're really entertaining when they get butthurt...

I'll grant that. In a sort of "ain't that cute, BUT IT'S WRONG!" kind of way.

(also, if I want my "messages" box to light up like a Christmas tree, all I have to do is drop a remark about 4chan or Anon and a bunch of butthurt whiners quote me. You people are too easy to rile up. There's no sport in it. It's like watching the '96 Bulls play a Division III women's college basketball team.)

 

[Dasmaster]

Anon are cyber-terrorists with an inflated sense of their own importance and one hell of a Messiah complex.

I think you got it right, here.

But you have to admit, they're really entertaining when they get butthurt...

I'll grant that. In a sort of "ain't that cute, BUT IT'S WRONG!" kind of way.

(also, if I want my "messages" box to light up like a Christmas tree, all I have to do is drop a remark about 4chan or Anon and a bunch of butthurt whiners quote me. You people are too easy to rile up. There's no sport in it. It's like watching the '96 Bulls play a Division III women's college basketball team.)

*insert nifty text here*

 

[Tdc2182]

I can sum up all of that with "It was just some guy saying"...

This does not in anyway shape or form represent anonymous, no matter how much you or that guy want it to. Your basically trying to put sticky-notes with different attributes onto air.

So your defense for that is pretty much "Nah ah".

Right.

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

Come up with an actual defense for something instead of just claiming I'm wrong.

.... Why would they care? Anonymous as an entity is untouchable. You can neither say its something or claim its not. Naheal put it wonderfully: Anonymous just IS.

Sure go attack there actions all you want. Even if you find out a few members your free to attack them too but until then its a flawless defence since you cant prove anything.

You asked for the promotional video, I gave you the promotional video.

You immediately come back and say I'm wrong.

I give up.

Believe what you want, just give me mercy to get out of this bat shit stupid argument.

Sure go, i have debated with some really thick Christians and Muslims in my days and i know when someone just wont get it...

No I completely get it.

I just don't think you get it.

I am denoting the actions they have made in the past.

Actually it depends on what side you meet of anonymous, there is the kiddie side who just goes around and troll everything. The professional side (how the hell do you think those kids could keep together for this long?). The hacker side which does not much to improve the image.

Its the professional side which does most of the good things but gets least of the positive feedbacks which might be because they only jump into action rarely.

So uh...

What do you make of that.

Cause to me it sounds like you are considering them an actual group of people.

 

[Dasmaster]

I can sum up all of that with "It was just some guy saying"...

This does not in anyway shape or form represent anonymous, no matter how much you or that guy want it to. Your basically trying to put sticky-notes with different attributes onto air.

So your defense for that is pretty much "Nah ah".

Right.

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

Come up with an actual defense for something instead of just claiming I'm wrong.

.... Why would they care? Anonymous as an entity is untouchable. You can neither say its something or claim its not. Naheal put it wonderfully: Anonymous just IS.

Sure go attack there actions all you want. Even if you find out a few members your free to attack them too but until then its a flawless defence since you cant prove anything.

You asked for the promotional video, I gave you the promotional video.

You immediately come back and say I'm wrong.

I give up.

Believe what you want, just give me mercy to get out of this bat shit stupid argument.

Sure go, i have debated with some really thick Christians and Muslims in my days and i know when someone just wont get it...

No I completely get it.

I just don't think you get it.

I am denoting the actions they have made in the past.

Actually it depends on what side you meet of anonymous, there is the kiddie side who just goes around and troll everything. The professional side (how the hell do you think those kids could keep together for this long?). The hacker side which does not much to improve the image.

Its the professional side which does most of the good things but gets least of the positive feedbacks which might be because they only jump into action rarely.

So uh...

What do you make of that.

Cause to me it sounds like you are considering them an actual group of people.

Just because i divide them like that does not mean i consider them a group of people. Its just those are the 3 major centres of pull inside anon or in other-words what they are mainly doing at the moment.

What you dont seam to understand is even if you "denoting the actions they have made in the past." In the end it does not mean anything because as far as anonymous goes its all completely separate events with no obvious connection what so ever between them.

And i know you will raise an eyebrow and look stupid but its true. Just because anon did something actually just mean SOMEONE did something... but who? What if anon did 200 things? Well someone's were obviously busy doing 200 things? Are they related? is there a connection?

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW!

 

[Tdc2182]

Pretending we're Clinton, now, are we? "I did not have sexual relations" and all that?

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

What do you want there, hmm? "Any anon" would denote Anon the entity coming in and saying "Hehe, lulz", which isn't going to happen on a board like this and you know it. If putting your own words in your mouth is putting words in your mouth, then I'm guilty as charged.

Yet again, doesn't mean that I don't get it.

How do you like your own backwards logic.

And how does that make me wrong?

 

[Tdc2182]

I can sum up all of that with "It was just some guy saying"...

This does not in anyway shape or form represent anonymous, no matter how much you or that guy want it to. Your basically trying to put sticky-notes with different attributes onto air.

So your defense for that is pretty much "Nah ah".

Right.

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

Come up with an actual defense for something instead of just claiming I'm wrong.

.... Why would they care? Anonymous as an entity is untouchable. You can neither say its something or claim its not. Naheal put it wonderfully: Anonymous just IS.

Sure go attack there actions all you want. Even if you find out a few members your free to attack them too but until then its a flawless defence since you cant prove anything.

You asked for the promotional video, I gave you the promotional video.

You immediately come back and say I'm wrong.

I give up.

Believe what you want, just give me mercy to get out of this bat shit stupid argument.

Sure go, i have debated with some really thick Christians and Muslims in my days and i know when someone just wont get it...

No I completely get it.

I just don't think you get it.

I am denoting the actions they have made in the past.

Actually it depends on what side you meet of anonymous, there is the kiddie side who just goes around and troll everything. The professional side (how the hell do you think those kids could keep together for this long?). The hacker side which does not much to improve the image.

Its the professional side which does most of the good things but gets least of the positive feedbacks which might be because they only jump into action rarely.

So uh...

What do you make of that.

Cause to me it sounds like you are considering them an actual group of people.

Just because i divide them like that does not mean i consider them a group of people. Its just those are the 3 major centres of pull inside anon or in other-words what they are mainly doing at the moment.

What you dont seam to understand is even if you "denoting the actions they have made in the past." In the end it does not mean anything because as far as anonymous goes its all completely separate events with no obvious connection what so ever between them.

And i know you will raise an eyebrow and look stupid but its true. Just because anon did something actually just mean SOMEONE did something... but who? What if anon did 200 things? Well someone's were obviously busy doing 200 things? Are they related? is there a connection?

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW!

You know what, reading back on my earlier posts I realize that I now partly make no sense.

Go ahead and gloat in your victory, you deserve it.

 

[Dasmaster]

I can sum up all of that with "It was just some guy saying"...

This does not in anyway shape or form represent anonymous, no matter how much you or that guy want it to. Your basically trying to put sticky-notes with different attributes onto air.

So your defense for that is pretty much "Nah ah".

Right.

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

Come up with an actual defense for something instead of just claiming I'm wrong.

.... Why would they care? Anonymous as an entity is untouchable. You can neither say its something or claim its not. Naheal put it wonderfully: Anonymous just IS.

Sure go attack there actions all you want. Even if you find out a few members your free to attack them too but until then its a flawless defence since you cant prove anything.

You asked for the promotional video, I gave you the promotional video.

You immediately come back and say I'm wrong.

I give up.

Believe what you want, just give me mercy to get out of this bat shit stupid argument.

Sure go, i have debated with some really thick Christians and Muslims in my days and i know when someone just wont get it...

No I completely get it.

I just don't think you get it.

I am denoting the actions they have made in the past.

Actually it depends on what side you meet of anonymous, there is the kiddie side who just goes around and troll everything. The professional side (how the hell do you think those kids could keep together for this long?). The hacker side which does not much to improve the image.

Its the professional side which does most of the good things but gets least of the positive feedbacks which might be because they only jump into action rarely.

So uh...

What do you make of that.

Cause to me it sounds like you are considering them an actual group of people.

Just because i divide them like that does not mean i consider them a group of people. Its just those are the 3 major centres of pull inside anon or in other-words what they are mainly doing at the moment.

What you dont seam to understand is even if you "denoting the actions they have made in the past." In the end it does not mean anything because as far as anonymous goes its all completely separate events with no obvious connection what so ever between them.

And i know you will raise an eyebrow and look stupid but its true. Just because anon did something actually just mean SOMEONE did something... but who? What if anon did 200 things? Well someone's were obviously busy doing 200 things? Are they related? is there a connection?

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW!

You know what, reading back on my earlier posts I realize that I now partly make no sense.

Go ahead and gloat in your victory, you deserve it.

;_; can this really be happening?

 

[Naheal]

Pretending we're Clinton, now, are we? "I did not have sexual relations" and all that?

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

What do you want there, hmm? "Any anon" would denote Anon the entity coming in and saying "Hehe, lulz", which isn't going to happen on a board like this and you know it. If putting your own words in your mouth is putting words in your mouth, then I'm guilty as charged.

Yet again, doesn't mean that I don't get it.

How do you like your own backwards logic.

And how does that make me wrong?

Look, I've spelled this out as clear as I possibly can and I've attempted to inform you on what anon really is. You're under your own beliefs of what anon is and you're not willing to understand this. I'm going to try once more with a demonstration and hope that you get it.

Right now, if we were to strip away usernames, you, me, Dasmaster and anyone else within this site become anonymous. You are not anonymous, nor is any single person here. If one person leaves, anonymous changes. If another joins, anonymous changes. If you leave to go back to RL, you are no longer part of anonymous. The moment you take on any label, including "representative of anonymous", you are no longer anonymous, you are then a person. Each one of these people involved are no longer people, they are part of an entity of ideas and an exchange of ideas. We would be akin to a brain arguing amongst itself to decide what would be the best direction if we should decide to go in a particular direction.

By asking for a representative of Anonymous to come out and refute something, you are demonstrating a lack of understanding of the entity that is Anonymous. If any one of the members of Anonymous comes forward with a label of "representative of anonymous", they are no longer part of Anonymous and cannot accurately represent Anonymous.

 

[Tdc2182]

Pretending we're Clinton, now, are we? "I did not have sexual relations" and all that?

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

What do you want there, hmm? "Any anon" would denote Anon the entity coming in and saying "Hehe, lulz", which isn't going to happen on a board like this and you know it. If putting your own words in your mouth is putting words in your mouth, then I'm guilty as charged.

Yet again, doesn't mean that I don't get it.

How do you like your own backwards logic.

And how does that make me wrong?

Look, I've spelled this out as clear as I possibly can and I've attempted to inform you on what anon really is. You're under your own beliefs of what anon is and you're not willing to understand this. I'm going to try once more with a demonstration and hope that you get it.

Right now, if we were to strip away usernames, you, me, Dasmaster and anyone else within this site become anonymous. You are not anonymous, nor is any single person here. If one person leaves, anonymous changes. If another joins, anonymous changes. If you leave to go back to RL, you are no longer part of anonymous. The moment you take on any label, including "representative of anonymous", you are no longer anonymous, you are then a person. Each one of these people involved are no longer people, they are part of an entity of ideas and an exchange of ideas. We would be akin to a brain arguing amongst itself to decide what would be the best direction if we should decide to go in a particular direction.

By asking for a representative of Anonymous to come out and refute something, you are demonstrating a lack of understanding of the entity that is Anonymous. If any one of the members of Anonymous comes forward with a label of "representative of anonymous", they are no longer part of Anonymous and cannot accurately represent Anonymous.

.....You guys win.

Go ahead, take your revenge.

I won't beg.

 

[Dasmaster]

.....You guys win.

Go ahead, take your revenge.

I won't beg.

This was never about winning or losing silly...

 

[Naheal]

Pretending we're Clinton, now, are we? "I did not have sexual relations" and all that?

Cause I haven't seen any Anon come in and refute either of those videos.

What do you want there, hmm? "Any anon" would denote Anon the entity coming in and saying "Hehe, lulz", which isn't going to happen on a board like this and you know it. If putting your own words in your mouth is putting words in your mouth, then I'm guilty as charged.

Yet again, doesn't mean that I don't get it.

How do you like your own backwards logic.

And how does that make me wrong?

Look, I've spelled this out as clear as I possibly can and I've attempted to inform you on what anon really is. You're under your own beliefs of what anon is and you're not willing to understand this. I'm going to try once more with a demonstration and hope that you get it.

Right now, if we were to strip away usernames, you, me, Dasmaster and anyone else within this site become anonymous. You are not anonymous, nor is any single person here. If one person leaves, anonymous changes. If another joins, anonymous changes. If you leave to go back to RL, you are no longer part of anonymous. The moment you take on any label, including "representative of anonymous", you are no longer anonymous, you are then a person. Each one of these people involved are no longer people, they are part of an entity of ideas and an exchange of ideas. We would be akin to a brain arguing amongst itself to decide what would be the best direction if we should decide to go in a particular direction.

By asking for a representative of Anonymous to come out and refute something, you are demonstrating a lack of understanding of the entity that is Anonymous. If any one of the members of Anonymous comes forward with a label of "representative of anonymous", they are no longer part of Anonymous and cannot accurately represent Anonymous.

.....You guys win.

Go ahead, take your revenge.

I won't beg.

My point was never about victory or loss, it's about truth and falsehood.