Anonymous Threatens Fox News Over Occupy Wall Street

[DefiningReality]

In a two party system? Probably not. Worse, the strongest candidate doing something like what I described, mixing and matching conservative and liberal based on what of their belief systems conforms to a third ideological set, is Ron Paul, who is an unqualified nincompoop.

 

[DefiningReality]

In a two party system? Probably not. Worse, the strongest candidate doing something like what I described, mixing and matching conservative and liberal based on what of their belief systems conforms to a third ideological set, is Ron Paul, who is an unqualified nincompoop.

 

[DefiningReality]

In a two party system? Probably not. Worse, the strongest candidate doing something like what I described, mixing and matching conservative and liberal based on what of their belief systems conforms to a third ideological set, is Ron Paul, who is an unqualified nincompoop.

To conservatives: Regulations aren't a bad thing. People who make their living by breaking the backs of those less fortunate than themselves deserve a measure of justice. More importantly, the people they are breaking deserve a measure of justice. You know that greed is bad. If you're honest with yourself I think you will admit that a lot of what drives corporations is greed, not mere ambition. The desire to have money isn't bad. The desire to have a lot of money isn't bad. Doing whatever it takes to get money, whether a little or a lot of it, is bad, wickedly so. You agree with this in principle, if you don't like what the Occupy people are putting forward as a solution to this then put forward your own solutions and argue your solution's merits. Don't just defend the system.

To Liberals: Regulations won't solve the problem. There are plenty of examples of far more regulated economic systems than free market capitalism. Many of them make capitalism's excesses, even those perpetrated by Transnational Corporations, look warm and fuzzy by comparison. This is because the fundamental problem is a human one. Humans seek personal advantage, whether we're talking about Wall Street fat cats, Party Members, or Senators. Replacing Capitalists with Regulators won't fix them problem, it will just change the slogans protesters are shouting. We can, and should, push for change. But just like talking about change without acting for change won't do any good, so too will addressing surface issues instead of hitting the heart of the matter not do any good.

To close: Dealing with this issue solely from a conservative or a solely liberal framework won't do any good. Nor is it sufficient for both sides to simply meet the other halfway, because this implies that cultural ideologies move along a linear scale. The approach needed is one that picks and chooses true statements from within both systems, discards what in those systems is false, and then moves forward with a plan of action based on the resulting, new third system.

Can you stick to those guns and run for president?

In a two party system? Probably not. Worse, the strongest candidate doing something like what I described, mixing and matching conservative and liberal based on what of their belief systems conforms to a third ideological set, is Ron Paul, who is an unqualified nincompoop.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

For people talking about the bullshit like freedom of speech.
There is a HUGE difference between freedom of speech and this bullcrap what Fox is doing. Or do you agree with me that we should let everyone like talk like Hitler.

Freedom of speech means that the government CAN'T censor the news. That doesn't give the new the right to write/say what ever they want. Every news has to be from a reliable source and has to be confirmed. If it's not confirmed, it HAS to be said that it's not confirmed and that it's just a speculation.

Fox tells all that shit AS FACTS, tho it's not even close to facts. They are telling nothing buy lies. I doubt that Freedom of Speech gives you the right to lie all the day on a channel with such great influence as Fox. Most people believe what Fox News say.

 

[Whytewulf]

Anonymous: We don't like what you're saying so we're just going to hack your site like little girls having a slapfight.

haha, I agree..

By the way.. I have seen these people.. They are pretty dirty..

 

[Darks63]

wow killing their website for a day will really kill fox news , Really if thats the best they can do why bother. It like making a slew of Photoshops of Hannity in gay porn and saying it will bring him down.

 

[chiefohara]

Meh its fox...

I've no sympathy for them.

 

[ReiverCorrupter]

In a two party system? Probably not. Worse, the strongest candidate doing something like what I described, mixing and matching conservative and liberal based on what of their belief systems conforms to a third ideological set, is Ron Paul, who is an unqualified nincompoop.

To conservatives: Regulations aren't a bad thing. People who make their living by breaking the backs of those less fortunate than themselves deserve a measure of justice. More importantly, the people they are breaking deserve a measure of justice. You know that greed is bad. If you're honest with yourself I think you will admit that a lot of what drives corporations is greed, not mere ambition. The desire to have money isn't bad. The desire to have a lot of money isn't bad. Doing whatever it takes to get money, whether a little or a lot of it, is bad, wickedly so. You agree with this in principle, if you don't like what the Occupy people are putting forward as a solution to this then put forward your own solutions and argue your solution's merits. Don't just defend the system.

To Liberals: Regulations won't solve the problem. There are plenty of examples of far more regulated economic systems than free market capitalism. Many of them make capitalism's excesses, even those perpetrated by Transnational Corporations, look warm and fuzzy by comparison. This is because the fundamental problem is a human one. Humans seek personal advantage, whether we're talking about Wall Street fat cats, Party Members, or Senators. Replacing Capitalists with Regulators won't fix them problem, it will just change the slogans protesters are shouting. We can, and should, push for change. But just like talking about change without acting for change won't do any good, so too will addressing surface issues instead of hitting the heart of the matter not do any good.

To close: Dealing with this issue solely from a conservative or a solely liberal framework won't do any good. Nor is it sufficient for both sides to simply meet the other halfway, because this implies that cultural ideologies move along a linear scale. The approach needed is one that picks and chooses true statements from within both systems, discards what in those systems is false, and then moves forward with a plan of action based on the resulting, new third system.

Can you stick to those guns and run for president?

In a two party system? Probably not. Worse, the strongest candidate doing something like what I described, mixing and matching conservative and liberal based on what of their belief systems conforms to a third ideological set, is Ron Paul, who is an unqualified nincompoop.

I admire Ron Paul for his philosophical consistency, but yeah, he's completely nuts. He basically wants to get rid of the government altogether. I'm not sure if he wants privatized education, but privatized education would effectively bring us back to a caste based feudal system where money and jobs are essentially inherited and there is effectively no upward social mobility.

Allow me to let you guys in on a little secret, you don't get elected without corporate backing. The 'liberals' and the 'conservatives' are really all just individuals who worry about their jobs. If you become ideological in office then the corporations form Super PACs to kick you out during the next election. Furthermore, they've gerrymandered the districts to the point that they look like boa constrictors with spina bifida so swing votes don't matter.

Added to these already disturbing facts is the fact that the constitution was made to be extremely conservative (not in the political sense but in the general sense that it is extremely resistant to change). Most major societal reforms come through the supreme court. Even if an independent president were elected, he/she would have no power whatsoever because only the congress can pass new laws and it is more or less an outright impossibility that there could be a wave of independent candidates in congress. The Tea Party is not independent but actually has a huge amount of corporate backing like the Koch brothers.

Put simply: the American people don't care enough for any real reform to take place, it will take a true catastrophic collapse like the great depression to see any real change.

 

[Something Amyss]

There is a HUGE difference between freedom of speech and this bullcrap what Fox is doing. Or do you agree with me that we should let everyone like talk like Hitler.

You mean in a German accent? With large hand gestures?

Seriously, use of Hitler is one of those disingenuous tactics Fox News uses, and they use it for a reason. It's not really a good way to talk honestly about things.

Freedom of speech means that the government CAN'T censor the news.

Actually, they can censor TV all they want, as court rulings have allowed.

They can also censor someone for incitement, certain types of hate speech, or slander/libel. In fact, these are exactly the problems you have with Fox News.

 

[internetzealot1]

Well I guess the good old days are gone. Now they're just seeking attention.

 

[gbemery]

Now I have never been one to support Fox News but I think Anonymous is rather hypocritical here. Didn't they champion the phrase "I may not agree or support what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."? So even though Fox News is biased such as any other news company they can say whatever they want. It is up to the "common" folk to judge whether or not they speak the truth.

 

[funksobeefy]

"Frank Miller's" V For Vendetta?

.........Really? Why don't you try looking that up again, Greg. Two seconds of internet research, Escapist. That's all I ask. Please give credit where credit is due.

I thought the exact same thing, movie was half of the what the comic was.

OT: I think its cool, you cant just let Fox News get away with accusations, nor anybody for that matter. Nobody out side of anon is going to call them out and actually do something about it.

 

[Jingle Fett]

Oh snap, shit just got real! I do hope they do it, Fox News certainly needs to be knocked down a few pegs. Let's see how Fox likes some of it's own medicine...Oh the skeletons that will come flying out of the closet!

 

[crystalsnow]

People are stupid if they think that standing outside Wall Street holding signs is going to change the way things have worked for thousands of years. Anonymous is even dumber for throwing their support behind said people.

I hate Fox News as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

 

[Little Duck]

I just jizzed in my pants in anticipation.

 

[Kinokohatake]

Since I hate both with the fiery intensity of a thousand suns, I don't know who I want to lose. Well really neither will lose. The most they'll do is lock up their website for an hour or so. It won't stop the, you know, Fox News CHANNEL!

 

[Flyingchciken93]

Finally! I was starting to wonder when anon was coming out, fox has been bullying the protesters since the beginning, hats off to you anon!

P.s. Nice date choice and thats a seriously threatening voice, well done!

 

[Jingle Fett]

One thing I'd like to point out is...
If Fox News didn't resort to such dirty tactics (plus remember, Murdock is on trial for illegal wiretapping) and outright lies ...
The people (Anonymous) wouldn't have to resort to doing this to make them stop. They need to be put in their place. The younger generation is already ignoring the news media (Fox, MSNBC, etc.) mainly because of that type of bias; however, this isn't going to make Fox stop.

Quite simply, if Fox doesn't want to get hacked, they can quit the bullshit and lies and actually provide "fair and balanced news". Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

**Sometimes you need...a Dark Knight

 

[ICortezI]

I hate both groups equally, so I think I'm just going to ignore this whole situation.