Another angle on the whole 'geek girls' thing.

[mgirl]

Ugh, this is seriously a thread?
For starters, beauty is subjective! And if you think that clothes that you don't like is one of the things that makes a person unattractive.... wow, just wow.

To be more serious though, people who are percieved to be attractive or unattractive exist in every single sub genre and social group in existance. People are not limited to different hobbies that may be 'geeky' or not, by their apperance, making a generalising statement such as yours pointless! Your generalisation is from your experience, and for the record, all of the 'geeky' girls I have met have been skinny, and range from average to pretty.

Edit: damn, corrected mid rant!

 

[Dogstile]

Depends, why to geek guys have a tendency to not give a damn about being clean shaven or what they wear?

I'm assuming its the same reason.

 

[Girl With One Eye]

"The problem is that, thus far, none of them have been what would commonly considered 'attractive' [physically speaking], with the exception of one lady I dated for a while."

"The problem is that" ? Seriously ? How is the attractiveness of geeky women "the problem" for you, is it that the only use you have for women is their potential as dating partners ? Or are they hurting your pwecious widdle eyes ?

"Is there any particular reason that women of the geeky persuasion have a habit of letting themselves go?"

Dunno, same reason that men of the geeky persuasion have "a habit" of "letting themselves go" maybe ?

"I understand that the same kind of guys are generally not the most attractive themselves, but it doesn't seem quite as pronounced."

Yeah because you would be in a position to judge, what with the first thing you do when you encounter a male geek being sizing them up as a potential sexual partner.

"Please don't flame."

Please don't write flame-bait.

"I'm not trying to generalize. Just making an observation that, for me, has been true more often than not."

Hah, that's the funny one. So let me sum up. You've "come across 'a couple' of these women". You have noticed they weren't attractive to you (except for one, which makes the whole thing even funnier). You proceed to make a post entitled "a new angle on the whole 'geek girls' thing" (as opposed to, say, "An observation I've made of a couple of those 'geek girls' people"). In this post you ask questions of the "habits" of "women of the geeky persuasion".

Wow, I'd hate to see you when you ARE trying to generalize.

I think you have summed up this thread perfectly.

Also, welcome to the escapist.

 

[Littaly]

They understand references to a variety of literature, music and film that's considered to be outside of the mainstream, and they've got a nice, dark sense of humour.

That... sounds pretty attractive to me.

 

[DigitalSushi]

I disagree wholeheartedly, your defining beauty as a way that someone dresses.

I'm so sick of 'geek girl' threads. The questions been asked and answered multiple times before, can we talk about something different like puppies or space ships?

Quick, to the MLP Friendship is magic mobile!

 

[No_Remainders]

Please don't flame. I'm not trying to generalize. Just making an observation that, for me, has been true more often than not.

You're not trying to generalise, but the entire thread is just one massive generalisation, and it's ridiculous. To be fair, it's ridiculous, because I'm like the biggest nerd I know, but I'm always clean shaven, and I dress quite well.

But still, you come across as a bit shallow. You should try changing that.

Also:

Ugh, this is seriously a thread?
For starters, beauty is subjective! And if you think that clothes that you don't like is one of the things that makes a person unattractive.... wow, just wow.

Objective =/= subjective. Fixed it for you.

 

[SckizoBoy]

I know what you're trying to say... but I think you expressed in a somewhat ill-advised way.

Rephrased question: Why are geek girls commonly considered less attractive than 'normal' girls?

Even then I think there are PR issues you could avoid... simple answer - they couldn't really give a damn 'cos they're not going out to jump a man's bones the first time she claps eyes on him. Slightly longer answer, they have neither the intention or inclination to necessarily 'look hot' all the time simply because they see little, if any, social profit for them, and unlike the type of girl who needs to have all men's eyes on one body part or another, they find other more intellectual (or otherwise) ways to feel good about themselves.

Because we all have to be attractive? And that different people have different view on what is attractive?

Why does it matter?

Basically, that... only longer...

And in a number of exceptions to your rule: one of my friends from the last lab I worked at - a petite Scot with insanely smooth skintone, massive breasts, a ridiculously kooky personality and an addiction to zombie games, would I have gone there? Yes, I would have, were it not for the fact that she's married; one of my ex-girlfriends - underneath all the grunge, she's voluptuous and if she ever stopped scowling you'd think she was a makeup poster-girl (why she liked me I'll never know...); an old uni mate's ex-girlfriend - a better FPSer than me (not hard, mind) and very pretty IMO;... and a couple girls at my old anime-soc that I almost clean forgot about.

Now, my view of female beauty is a bit flawed so I've tried to 'think like a normal guy'...

 

[similar.squirrel]

I know what you're trying to say... but I think you expressed in a somewhat ill-advised way.

I got that impression. Need to think things through.

 

[mgirl]

Ugh, this is seriously a thread?
For starters, beauty is subjective! And if you think that clothes that you don't like is one of the things that makes a person unattractive.... wow, just wow.

Objective =/= subjective. Fixed it for you.

Damn it! That's what I get for ranting and not thinking

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

*Snip*

It's pretty obvious from his post that he's talking about wanting a geeky girlfriend, and wanting an attractive sexual partner is not wrong in the slightest. If that wasn't what he was talking about, you'd have some valid points there.

He also very obviously is not complaining that "his eyes are being hurt" by unattractive women being around him. Only that none of them are the sort of person he'd date.

OT: As some people above me have stated rather succinctly, there are a lot of geeky girls out there who probably also live up to your standards for a partner, just get out more.

EDIT: Welcome to the 'scapist, Caravelle. While I disagree with you and think you misinterpreted the OP, that's still one of the best first posts of someone on this site I've seen.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

One could argue that since geek culture consists almost entirely of sedentary activities avid pursuers thereof inherently get less exercise, or possibly since most other social environments discriminate based on overall attractiveness they're an easy refuge for unattractive people, male or female, and since it's much easier for girls to get laid, the bar for those who HAVE to resort to these mediums is marginally lower.

I'm just running my drunk mouth (or fingers as it were) based on generalizations which of course do have exceptions, but hey, this whole issue is based on a generalization so that's pretty much the only way you can explain it.

 

[Harbinger_]

It was mentioned earlier in the thread that apparently the OP is 'picky' because he doesn't find the women he mentioned attractive. I'm not sure why people are supposed to settle for less than they desire to be perfectly honest.

 

[ladyhermes]

I'd like to suggest that maybe you're looking in the wrong place. A huge amount of women play games, are geeky, etc. but unless you actually meet and talk to the 'sexy' ones you're never going to find this out. You associate the women you are looking at who are less attractive with geek culture, whereas for males I would assume that almost all have an element of 'geekiness'. This is relevant because while there is the male gamer geek stereotype, it's more of a joke but people genuinely seem to think that all women gamers fit the image you've referred to! My point is something about books and covers, we are most definitely not the holy grail.

 

[BanicRhys]

In my experience the only geeky girls I've met have been ugly.

One was fat, over 6 feet tall and just didn't really look all that feminine.
The other was a tiny bony little thing that dressed as if she was the living embodiment of weeabooism, Pokemon shaped backpack and all. Of course, her personality wasn't all that great either. She was a complete recluse, everything she said in that soft murmur would take 90% longer because of all the umms and ahhs she threw in.

Not exactly the best test sample but those are the only girls I've known to be geeky.

 

[SckizoBoy]

Weight problems, dishevelled, bad choice of clothing. Like the male gamer stereotype, but without the neckbeard.

It's strange, because literally all of my gamer friends don't fit that stereotype. We're all fairly tall, trim, well-groomed (apart from me, because I can't be bothered to shave more than once a week, and one other whose beard explodes in two hours), socially competent and well dressed (for the most part anyway). I go out of my way to co-ordinate my clothing when I go out (no real effort considering my wardrobe...) and another friend dresses like Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock Holmes.

That's the problem with stereotypes... everyone can always think of something to counter it...

 

[Caravelle]

It's pretty obvious from his post that he's talking about wantinga geeky girlfriend, and wanting an attractive sexual partner is not wrong in the slightest. If that wasn't what he was talking about, you'd have some valid points there.

OT: As some people above me have stated rather succinctly, there are a lot of geeky girls out there who probably also live up to your standards for a partner, just get out more.

Well, now he knows better than to ask why it is that geeky women have a habit of letting themselves go when what he really wants to know is how to find an attractive geeky girlfriend. Win-win !

As for finding attractive geeky girlfriends : getting out more is the big one, but speaking as someone who spent most of her teen years wondering why all guys were ugly, lowering your standards can sometimes do wonders.

Also, welcome to the escapist.

Thanks !

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

It's pretty obvious from his post that he's talking about wantinga geeky girlfriend, and wanting an attractive sexual partner is not wrong in the slightest. If that wasn't what he was talking about, you'd have some valid points there.

OT: As some people above me have stated rather succinctly, there are a lot of geeky girls out there who probably also live up to your standards for a partner, just get out more.

Well, now he knows better than to ask why it is that geeky women have a habit of letting themselves go when what he really wants to know is how to find an attractive geeky girlfriend. Win-win !

As for finding attractive geeky girlfriends : getting out more is the big one, but speaking as someone who spent most of her teen years wondering why all guys were ugly, lowering your standards can sometimes do wonders.

Well, yeah he totally did ask the question in the worst, most ambiguous way possible. But I don't know if lowering his standards would really be the right tactic here. He might actually be completely honest here and him telling us all the geeky girls around him aren't attractive is the truth. He might be exaggerating, sure, but I think he should go out looking before that.

Also, in-case you missed it:

EDIT: Welcome to the 'scapist, Caravelle. While I disagree with you and think you misinterpreted the OP, that's still one of the best first posts of someone on this site I've seen.

 

[Terrara]

And here I thought that RPGs would teach you that real woman's beauty is on the inside. Oh, wait...

But seriously, I see your point. The answer is that most of us[geeks in general] on specific stage of our mental growth do not give a damn about how we look. Because we fantasise about guys from games(or chicks in your case) falling for us and dating us etc.etc. in our lovely fantasy world. Some are able to grow out of it quicker then others. (I'm still somewhere in between, so I may be quite biased about the whole situation)

Also, try to phrase your questions/points better. Calling all the female forum population 'unattractive' in one big generalisation (and yes you were generalising, or you have met too few girl-geeks) is usually not the best way to get someones honest thoughts on the subject.

Oh, and by the way *puts on girl-hater shades* "I understand that the same kind of guys are generally not the most attractive themselves, but it doesn't seem quite as pronounced." yeah? I guess you have never looked from a side then. But as a tip, not washing for several months does not make you hardcore. Just revolting.

Cheers.