Another angle on the whole 'geek girls' thing.

[Burntpopcarn]

I have been rejected 11 times now, and it hurts. i really wish there were more hot geek chics, but sadly i only know two: one is extremely attractive, but she's dating a douchebag and my best friend is obsessed with her. the other of which is ok, but she's very ugly and impolite, also she is insane. the right man in the wrong place, that's me! p.s i'm not very ugly myself, with the exception of my unusually thin build. the reason i am single is simply because i'm different, and where i come from, being different means being retarded. wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! i'm not retarded, you dickbags! i am a human being tooooo!!!!

 

[StormShaun]

I live in Perth in Australia, and I have came across NO geek girls at all!

I don't know why.

The only one that I have met that play games is my Best Friend's little sister, no wonder I like her. X_X'

 

[Kathinka]

I've read countless threads here about those elusive members of the fairer sex who share some of the more esoteric interests that define this forum community. The bottom line, usually refuted, was that they are not nearly as elusive as people make them out to be.
I agree with that, and my issue is another one. I've come across a couple of these women. They are genuinely smart, funny and pleasant to be around. They understand references to a variety of literature, music and film that's considered to be outside of the mainstream, and they've got a nice, dark sense of humour. The problem is that, thus far, none of them have been what would commonly be considered 'attractive' [physically speaking], with the exception of one lady I dated for a while.
Is there any particular reason that women of the geeky persuasion have a habit of letting themselves go? I understand that the same kind of guys are generally not the most attractive themselves, but it doesn't seem quite as pronounced.

Please don't flame. I'm not trying to generalize. Just making an observation that, for me, has been true more often than not.

i've observed that to some extent as well. some are atractive, but many are not. my theory is this: the lesser atractive girls chose male-dominated hobbies and move arround in the geeky circles to gain attention and admiration they wouldn't recieve in "normal" circles, where there's a surplus of more atractive girls. by getting mixed up in an almost all-male club, they play in the top league of atractive girls in that particular group, due to the lack of competition, even if they are not particularely pretty by the common standard. girls that are really atractive can, if they seek the admiration and attention, get their fix elsewhere without a problem.

don't mean to generalize or anything, this doesn't apply to everyone. it's just my observation and theory.

 

[Roofstone]

They arent. You just notice the "ugly" ones easier. Since you pay more attention to them, than the average looking ones.

 

[Dastardly]

Please don't flame. I'm not trying to generalize. Just making an observation that, for me, has been true more often than not.

While poorly framed, it is a semi-fair issue to raise. The easiest and most evident answer? The "geeks" of the world tend to spend most of their time thinking inwardly--about ideas and other immaterial things. Often, this means forgetting about (or even actively shunning) things they see as superficial.

They're not thinking about looking good naked. They're not thinking about a trendy hairstyle. In a sense, all of that worrying about appearance is just getting in the way of thinking about things that matter--ideas, in whatever form they may take for a particular "geek."

And, of course, it sometimes goes in the opposite direction. Sometimes, when a person doesn't "win the genetic lottery" and grow features that have a more universal appeal, it causes them to give up on that particular avenue of "success" and focus more inwardly. And then we're right back to what I've mentioned above.

But the other thing to keep in mind? You not being attracted to someone doesn't mean they are not "attractive." I hate seafood, but that doesn't mean it's gross. It's just gross to me.

 

[Viral_Lola]

Isn't beauty subjective? Anyways, unless I have something really important, I really don't put a lot of effort into my looks. I think it's mainly because there are things I would rather do and worry about over my looks.

 

[DarkRyter]

In my findings, I have found that geek girls are no more or less attractive then girls as a whole.

I have yet to find a raisin.

 

[Thedutchjelle]

I find the vast majority of women to be rather unattractive Obviously that's just my opinion. It depends on your taste, I suppose.

 

[Jesus Phish]

Well, most geek girls I meet are attractive. Why weren't these girls you're talking about attractive? Details, please.

Weight problems, dishevelled, bad choice of clothing. Like the male gamer stereotype, but without the neckbeard.

Your argument reads very "it's ok for guy nerds to be overweight, smelly, badly dressed, but by god when women do it, it repulses me".

There's plenty of lady nerds who know how to take care of themselves and I'd know more geeks out there who are the polar opposite of the stereotype than those who fit it, on both sexes.

 

[zxvcasdfqwerzxcv]

Because it's the same for some male "geeks" they don't care as much on their appearance, don't ask me why many geeks don't maybe it's an ideological divide between people who were raised to treasure intelligence over looks and some others just grow to treasure looks.

I don't see why people can't treasure both?

Maybe I've just ridiculous standards, but I think that intelligence and personal appearance go hand-in-hand.

If a person has craploads of intelligence but no concept of personal hygiene, dressing well (doesn't have to be suited out or made up, but at least clean attire), or healthy living (not as extreme as a yoga-practicing vegan now!), then it suggests to me two things; that they don't care for themselves OR for other people so much. The primary reason we try and appear attractive is not self-indulgence, but for OTHER people. If we willfully ignore our appearance, to me it suggests a distain for other people, or lack of interest. Kind of makes me not want to know that person at all really. I think in the terms of 'attractive personality', interest in self (and what others think of yourself) is an attractive trait! Otherwise its just this apathy, which I don't care for.

Conversely, a massive emphasis on personal appearance while being an airhead is completely unattractive for me, but I would point out that in my experience the cruelest, meanest, most manipulative and most destructive people I've met in my life have always been the most intelligent. I've never been hurt by an airhead!

I believe that the majority of people are in fact good looking, but if you don't look after it, it goes to waste pretty quick.

 

[drummond13]

You may not be trying to generalize, but you ARE generalizing. I've met tons of attractive girls with geeky interests. Some could have been models. Others were. It might be the area you live in.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Seriously, you ever been to a nerd gathering / convention? Apart from the people who are payed there it's no pretty sight.

Which is understandable, when your Friday night is called "gaming marathon" rather then "trying to score" you probably don't put much on looks, and gender doesn't make much difference.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Dunno, I think it's more them not really trying to be "conventionally pretty" than them simply being unattractive flat-out. Of course you can have the occasional aircraft carrier but there's fatties everywhere (especially in America) and it's not like the male half is any thinner or more toned if we speak in generalities.


In my experience, geeks of both genders simply don't put as much effort in appearance cause they're not looking for someone who would appreciate their appearance, if they did they'd be into sports or fashion, not DnD and pokemon/what have you.


Also, there's the cuteness factor, I find way more cute things about girls who can actually find something to identify with in subjects not related to fashion or stupid pop culture stuff.

 

[AngelBlackChaos]

Well, to be honest with you. Lots of people, geeky and non geeky, are ugly. you may live in an area where ugly girls are predominant, or whatever. But this kind of thread is insulting. You wouldn't see a girl writing a thread about how "Most geek men seem to be disheveled losers that distantly remind one of Jabba the Hut." There are lots of pretty and pretty ugly people. In AND out of the geek community. your area may have more ugly geeks than some, but its not fair to base a stereotype on it. Its unfair to females in general. Just like it was decided ages ago by fair minded people that the "Geek" stereotype is unfair.

My boyfriend clearly doesn't look like the unfair stereotype for geek men, and I do not look like the stereotype you are presenting.

Let's not assume things of females to alienate an entire sex when you have happen to have seen a batch of Ugly people, and decided to just point out the "Geek Girls" within said group.

 

[Saviordd1]

Thats a bit...stereotypical, there's a bunch of girls in my school on varying levels of the geek scale pretty much all of them are really hot so...yeah, I don't know what your talking about, maybe people are just ugly in your town.

 

[k-ossuburb]

I'm so sick of 'geek girl' threads. The questions been asked and answered multiple times before, can we talk about something different like puppies or space ships?

Challenge accepted, I'm off to make a thread titled "Puppies in Space Ships" now.

 

[Kahnmir]

Dude. "why do women let themselves go" is a can of worms you may not like the answer too.

As a side note, or rather most of my post here; I'm trying to figure out why anyone would care whether or not women are involved in "the geek community" other than out of some bizarre sense of guilt or to have a set of tits around (which as a guy I can understand).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if women are going to get involved THEN THEY WILL GET INVOLVED. As I imagine they already are. Why does this need to keep coming up?