Kathinka said:
similar.squirrel said:
I've read countless threads here about those elusive members of the fairer sex who share some of the more esoteric interests that define this forum community. The bottom line, usually refuted, was that they are not nearly as elusive as people make them out to be.
I agree with that, and my issue is another one. I've come across a couple of these women. They are genuinely smart, funny and pleasant to be around. They understand references to a variety of literature, music and film that's considered to be outside of the mainstream, and they've got a nice, dark sense of humour. The problem is that, thus far, none of them have been what would commonly be considered 'attractive' [physically speaking], with the exception of one lady I dated for a while.
Is there any particular reason that women of the geeky persuasion have a habit of letting themselves go? I understand that the same kind of guys are generally not the most attractive themselves, but it doesn't seem quite as pronounced.
Please don't flame. I'm not trying to generalize. Just making an observation that, for me, has been true more often than not.
i've observed that to some extent as well. some are atractive, but many are not. my theory is this: the lesser atractive girls chose male-dominated hobbies and move arround in the geeky circles to gain attention and admiration they wouldn't recieve in "normal" circles, where there's a surplus of more atractive girls. by getting mixed up in an almost all-male club, they play in the top league of atractive girls in that particular group, due to the lack of competition, even if they are not particularely pretty by the common standard. girls that are really atractive can, if they seek the admiration and attention, get their fix elsewhere without a problem.
don't mean to generalize or anything, this doesn't apply to everyone. it's just my observation and theory.
First and foremost, that's not a theory, it's a hypothesis. Not the same thing. A theory has been tested again and again and has shown a possibility to be true.
Second, even if you "don't mean to generalize" you're essentially saying that girl gamers don't chose games because they enjoy them, instead it's because they just can't handle "normal" social circles because a "normal" social circle believes they are unattractive and begin gaming only so men will find them attractive. Your entire arguement is on the basis that women are so completely hung-up on getting attention from a man that they would completely destroy what they themselves want to be. Now I won't disadmit that some girls do, do this, and believe it or not, men do to. But I don't think that a large enough percentage of women would do this for your hyptothesis to be an accurate description of "why geeky girls let themselves go." In fact, if a woman or girl had such low self-esteem that she felt she needed to assume a persona to gain attention, it's unlikely she'd be looking to get into a crowd such as geeks. Whether true or not, geek culture is generally stereotyped as unattractive, fat, and unsocial men and women, a woman seeking admiration wouldn't be looking for it from people that are deemed by society as not worth their notice except to insult or blame, she'd want people of some note to suck up to and try to emulate.
You want to know why I play games? Cause for as far back as I remember, there was a nintendo in our house that I liked to play on. Then the gameboy came out and I begged my mother for one. I was insanely jealous when my brother got a sega console when I was around 7 and when I was 12 I saw Final Fantasy 8, I spent weeks begging my mother to get me a PS1 for Christmas. I game because...I like it.
