Another mediocre game that doesn't deserve the attention (Force Unleashed)

[Cyclomega]

Revelo, could you tell me when you have them available is the numerous TF2 updates will be free (like on Steam) or on sale ?

We were asking ourselves the question with friends, and won dering the same about the PS3 version...

 

[WhitemageofDOOM]

it goes against everything that the Jedi Knight-franchaise stood for.

Allow me to point out the obvious.

IT IS NOT THE JEDI KNIGHT FRANCHISE.

In Force Unleashed the player can cut hordes of enemies in half with minimal effort and blow up machines with a few easy button presses.

Which was...exactly what was promised. The force unleashed is the games name for gods sake.

Games that actually required you to THINK?

Yes, i play some quite regularly.
This isn't one of them, this is a blow off some steam in glorious violence type game.

Force Unleashed is so consolized in every worse aspect. The fact that they didn't port this for PC and went console exclusive should suffice to further strengthen my statement.

What the heck does consolized even mean, I'm guessing "designed for consoles." which i can't see how that's a bad thing. it prevents developers from taking the easy way out because of the sheer number of buttons and customization of control offered by pcs.

Also, what the hell is up with the characters name? StarKiller? What the hell happened to the Darth WhateverEvilName set up the Siths always use?

Strictly speaking, the main character isn't a sith. he is darth vaders apprentice. But there can only be two sith.

 

[AceDiamond]

Now, something like Lightning is pure Darkside, and something like healing is pure lightside.

Use lightning to power up a life support machine which keeps twenty soldiers alive.
Use healing to heal a Sith Lord who then goes on to commit countless acts of cruelty.

;D Nothing is as simple as all that. I still maintain that the 'telekinetic' powers are neutral though.

Fair enough, although I believe push was lightsided for balances purposes in Jedi Knight. Still I like taking Katarn's view on it that it's all in usage and intent rather than the power's origin.

So yes, I was talking out my butt when I said push and grip were light side powers instead of universal.

I wonder if the lightning shield counts though, not in its upgraded forms that zap people but just in its first form as something purely defensive. Of course there are other force shield powers that I think are light-side...

 

[onethought99]

I hate it that games that get hyped too much we know will inevitably be shite or will let us down. Its a shame as some of that ridiculous marketing money could have gone to developing the game further.

 

[Cyclomega]

Especially when it shows wonderful potential.

 

[Cyclomega]

Provided you have a PS3...

 

[BladesofReason]

Now, something like Lightning is pure Darkside, and something like healing is pure lightside.

Use lightning to power up a life support machine which keeps twenty soldiers alive.
Use healing to heal a Sith Lord who then goes on to commit countless acts of cruelty.

;D Nothing is as simple as all that. I still maintain that the 'telekinetic' powers are neutral though.

Fair enough, although I believe push was lightsided for balances purposes in Jedi Knight. Still I like taking Katarn's view on it that it's all in usage and intent rather than the power's origin.

So yes, I was talking out my butt when I said push and grip were light side powers instead of universal.

I wonder if the lightning shield counts though, not in its upgraded forms that zap people but just in its first form as something purely defensive. Of course there are other force shield powers that I think are light-side...

I've always been of the understanding that while Force Lightning was always associated with the Sith because of the catastrophic damage it can cause it was in actuality a neutral elemental Force ability. As such there have been Jedi who have used the power, notably Plo Koon who called it Force Judgement. Also the point about it being used to power a medical machine is a good one.

Also moves like Force Push are of course not Light Side powers but they were probably relegated as such (along with Lightning being Dark Side) in video games for balance purposes. I can actually only think of one Force Power off the top of my head that the other side strictly cannot do (That being Force Light) I could very well be wrong.

 

[TheBadass]

Well hell, I liked it. It's buggy, but never so bad as to make killing wookie's not fun. It wasn't technically as good as Devil May Cry 4, but I still enjoyed it alot more because at least it didn't take itself about eight times too goddamn seriously.

And also, yeah, you can choose between the Dark Side and the Light Side, it's just not a choice you realize you're making at the time. I get the impression half the people critizing the game haven't even played it.

Edit: Although the Star Destroyer scene bloody sucked.

 

[wgreer25]

I've read everyone's comments and a lot of you have valid points. The camera sucks ass, but no worse than Ninja Gaiden 2 or DMC4. Later in the game there are some enemies that once they knock you down thier attack timing seems to be perfect as to not allow you to stand back up, but I also seem to remember incindiary shiruken in NG2 that were much cheeper and more annoying. The boss battles are just kinda stupid and you win a little more on luck than skill.

I think the game did deliver on massive ass kicking using some cool stylistic force powers. I have found that this game does very well with allowing you to blow off some steam. Just put on your Sith Robe, shoot lightning into an explosive barrel and throw it into a crowd of glass armored storm troopers. You can't beat that.

It was horribly over hyped and it may be short, but I am having fun replaying some of my favorite levels with all my powers. So in my oppinion, it is a good time waster till something better comes out, like Dead Space.

 

[Apone]

Shame to hear largely negative reviews about the game. I enjoyed the demo, and will probably pick up a copy at some point in the next month or so.

A complete aside, but does anyone else think about "Spaced" when they hear TFU...The Fuckest Uppest.

Yes! "Don't cheapen this..."

I'm personally enjoying the game. All the hype seemed to be about how things would fall apart differently because of their new engine.
Which seems irrelevant in a linear game where you can't cut your way through a wood etc to make your own path or something.

As your not looking at stuff as you break it, it's just not important. On the whole though. Despite it's many flaws, I'm having fun messing stuff up with the Dark Side. I'm liking the story, and finding it worth playing.

 

[Emperor Inferno]

I only just read the first post, but I already have a comment. You said that one of the game's problems is that the story is completely linear. Well, is that really a bad thing? Look at it this way. It seems almost every Star Wars game has branching story these days and lets you choose, at least to some degree between light or dark. But with so many games, and not just Star Wars (Bioshock, etc.) doing that, hasn't it become kind of generic? I mean, everybody's doing it nowadays, and sometimes it's just not necessary.

Another thing. The whole point of the game is that you're this incredibly powerful specimen, isn't it? I haven't played it, yet, but sometimes I love to go into a game and just be all-powerful, be it through cheat codes or getting to a really high level and then going to a low difficulty part of the game. The point of gaming is having fun. It doesn't necessarily have to be hard to be fun. I personally can't wait to get Force Unleashed and kick some ass with the Dark Side.

 

[tiredinnuendo]

I only just read the first post, but I already have a comment. You said that one of the game's problems is that the story is completely linear. Well, is that really a bad thing? Look at it this way. It seems almost every Star Wars game has branching story these days and lets you choose, at least to some degree between light or dark. But with so many games, and not just Star Wars (Bioshock, etc.) doing that, hasn't it become kind of generic? I mean, everybody's doing it nowadays, and sometimes it's just not necessary.

As others in the thread have said, there are two endings to this game, determined by a binary choice you make right at the end. Both endings are actually fairly good, in a Star Wars kind of way.

Another thing. The whole point of the game is that you're this incredibly powerful specimen, isn't it? I haven't played it, yet, but sometimes I love to go into a game and just be all-powerful, be it through cheat codes or getting to a really high level and then going to a low difficulty part of the game. The point of gaming is having fun. It doesn't necessarily have to be hard to be fun. I personally can't wait to get Force Unleashed and kick some ass with the Dark Side.

That's the theoretical point, but in practice it doesn't always pan out. You feel powerful against the disposable storm troopers, but as they get upgraded to include shields of force resistance, stun guns, and bullshit robots you feel distinctly less powerful than you did at the beginning of the game. Also, all the really cool stuff you can do is done via QTE. Also also, a few of the QTEs tend to repeat themselves.... a lot. Also also also, this game has managed to make pulling a Star Destroyer out of the sky not only a non-epic experience, but in fact a terribly boring and stupid one that you can't wait to get over with.

- J

 

[Amnestic]

Also moves like Force Push are of course not Light Side powers but they were probably relegated as such (along with Lightning being Dark Side) in video games for balance purposes. I can actually only think of one Force Power off the top of my head that the other side strictly cannot do (That being Force Light) I could very well be wrong.

Force Crush of KotOR2 I can't find a 'Light' application for. I'm not sure if it's just a really upgraded version of telekinesis to crush someone or if it's something else, but I can't see anyway it can be used as anything except a dark-side power.

Wookiepedia has it under the "Choking" powers section for force powers, stating it's probably one of the darkest force powers around, lifting a person up and then "imploding as their body is crushed by the Force." Take that as you will, I guess.

 

[Cyclomega]

Force Crush is probably my favourite move, above Force Lightning or Force Rage (in Jedi Academy), thanks to the immense sadism of the power...

That, and using it as Vader in TFU is absolutely awesome.

 

[Cyclomega]

Hmm, Dynasty Warriors Gundam could prove quite fun, provided you can stomach it's animu...

All in all I liked it better than Dynasty/Samurai Warriors/Warriors Orochi...

 

[wewontdie11]

Is it just me who actually found this game really fun?

I actually found it entertaining to be totally over-powered and be able to blow the shit out of anything and everything pretty much all the way through in very funny, inventive and impressive ways. I thought the physics were fantastic, the story wasn't bad and even the customisation and powering up of force powers was simple and effective. I even liked the quick time events because you got to do some pretty kick ass stuff with them on the bosses and bigger enemies.

A multiplayer is always nice and is usually a given in most games, but could you honestly see them making a good multiplayer out of the powers and gameplay style they used? Because I can't. It would have been ridiculous.

My only gripe is that it was far too short. Did it in like 7 hours and there really isn't too much replay value as I really don't fancy going through it on all of the difficulties I haven't done. Probably end up trading it in soon.