Anti Black-Ops Brigade (ABOB)

[BenzSmoke]

Why should I care?

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Well. The response seems good so far.

Best of luck with the boycotting of a game that few will.

 

[Treblaine]

Well I'm boycotting Farmville.

hey, boycotting means the same thing as "I'm not going to get this game because I'm not interested in it"... right? (sarc)

Fuck sake, one person a boycott does not make. You simply aren't going to get it, whoop-tee-do. No one boycotted Medal of Honor, they just ignored it.

Something approaching a real boycott would be to un-friend anyone of your steam/XBL/PSN friends who you see playing it.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Isn't it usually best to boycott the game ahead of time so you're followers haven't already caved and bought the game?

My brother loves Cod, and I honestly enjoy Nazi Zombies. Its the one reason why I hold World at War over Modern Warfare 2. Personally, I don't like much about the games, but if people enjoy it, then let them.

 

[Requx]

I just think halo requires more skill... Same with gears, and we all own too many fps's anyways am I right people?

 

[Treblaine]

I'm not buying Black Ops either, but I'm not making threads to announce that fact.

I didn't even know we were allowed to make threads about things we aren't going to do.

New topic: "I'm not going to see Paranormal Activity 2... wow, I'm such a fucking rebel"

 

[dancinginfernal]

I'm boycotting it too. But I'm doing it by ignoring it, not giving it free press.

I'm boycotting it because I can't afford it. Which isn't boycotting at all but shurrup.

I find your avatar...enthralling.

OT: Pretty much the same thing everyone else says.

Good for you, don't need to or care to know.

 

[TK421]

Capital letters don't need to be on every word.

And, as a side note, that's nice.

I hope you have fun whining.

Exactly. I'm tired of a lot of new games too, but I don't really feel the need to complain obnoxiously.

 

[Therumancer]

It's a good game, probably a lot better than most of the other crap that we've all bought this year irregardless.

I see no sense in boycotting quality games. Save your indignation for a more suitable target.

While my reason for suggesting a boycott is differant from the OP's.

Simply put, by buying this game your effectively supporting the policies of Activision. We're not just talking about Bobby Kotick and his attitude, but also the complaints about DLC price gouging, and similar things. Basically Activision treats it's customers poorly, and even if they produce a good game, your buying it pretty much encourages them to keep right on doing what they are doing.

Next time you complain about paying say $15 for a couple of maps, remember your the one who bought this product after the numerous complaints that were made. Why the heck should these guys care if your going to line up and put money in thier pocket anyway?

This is to say nothing on the way how Activision raided Infinity Ward (the big creators of the current games) with thugs and ejected them so they wouldn't be paid promised monies and bonuses after making one of the most successful games of all time. By buying this product your saying this was okay too, after all you don't care where your money goes.

On top of this people want to argue about how video games are not an addiction, yet here we see people lining up to buy the product of a company that not only abuses them, but has a guy who takes extreme piggish pride in rubbing that pride in. He sits right there and annouces to the world that he's going to price gouge you for everything your worth, and yet you give him your money after the beating he's administered saying "Thank you sir, can I have another".

To be honest, I see a lot of similarity with addiction. I mean people want their FPS fix so badly, and face so much online peer pressure, that they are willing to endure pretty much anything. Sort of like a heroin addict crawling back for his latest fix, even after the dealer raises the price, cuts it to death with other materials, and demands unspeakable sex acts before he'll let you take it.

... or basically, there are plenty of reasons why people shouldn't be buying this game (or so I feel) even if it is high quality.

Just remember when you play, as your T-bagging your opponents, Bobby Kotick is T-bagging you IRL. >

-

Oh yeah, and all talk about their focus on multi-player aside, isn't this game also fundementally broken? Yesterday people were showing leaked videos of how you can't kill people with a sniper rifle even if you hit the button with them in the shaky crosshairs, and some dude icing like 20 people as a helicopter gunner in under a minute with trivial effort. Not to mention broken "last stand" abillities which have been a problem for the last two CoD games yet still haven't been removed, or turned into something a bit less game busting.

I'm not sure how high quality the game even is, looking at it from the outside objectively. It seems like a giant mess to me.

 

[TyphoidMary]

OP:

Wikipedia definition: A boycott is a form of consumer activism involving the act of voluntarily abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with a person, organization, or country as an expression of protest, usually for political reasons.

Dictionary.com:
boy·cott   
[boi-kot] Show IPA
?verb (used with object)
1.
to combine in abstaining from, or preventing dealings with, as a means of intimidation or coercion: to boycott a store.
2.
to abstain from buying or using: to boycott foreign products.


What is your political reason?
What are you protesting, exactly? The multi-player part of the game that everyone else seems to have no problem with?
What, exactly, do you hope to gain from this?
And last: Who are you combining with, as one person isn't really enough to form an effective boycott?

Nobody cares. Just ignore the game and move on with your life.

 

[ENKC]

Isn't it a bit hipster to loudly proclaim you're not going to do something popular? I'll be playing through single player on veteran, as I did with MW 2 (and I barely touched the multiplayer until it was done). I'm also looking forward to spending extensive time in Zombies mode.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

I hate the majority of the games community, and most Cod games have bleh campains. So this may just be a rent for me.

 

[Yokai]

Yay For Compulsively Capitalised Sentences! Down With Grammar! Woot For Annoying To Read Posts!

Have Fun With Your Boycott, Spreading Interest In The Game You're Claiming To Detest.

I'm reading these sentences with an exclamation point at the end of each word. It seems so loud and mechanical.

OT: Play the game before you judge it. I don't have much interest in the series in the first place, but I won't say it's bad just because of what I've heard secondhand.

 

[DustyDrB]

1. To the original poster:
The only good reason to actually "boycott" the game is if you're boycotting Bobby Kottick-led Activision. Otherwise, it's just a game you're not into and you're not buying it, much like why I'm not buying Fable 3 or Poképark.

2. To other people in the thread:
Can you get over the idea that if someone doesn't want to do something that happens to be popular, they are doing it because they are trying to be cool cat contrarians. The simpler answer is they just don't like the game.

3. To the gods of capitalization:
We pray to thee. Have mercy on humanity, though some of us misuse your methods. Grant us forgiveness and We Shall No Longer Type Like This (unless it's the title of something, which we promise to type like that). Amen.

 

[BakaSmurf]

The OP is so full of fail it isn't even funny...

So exactly how many people do you expect to join you in your "cause?" I predict that this "boycott" is going to be a massive flop, personally, especially considering that you're boycotting a game franchise known for it's strong focus on multiplayer for... Focusing on it's multiplayer.

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful, methinks.

[small]So very much fail...[/small]

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

It's a good game, probably a lot better than most of the other crap that we've all bought this year irregardless.

I see no sense in boycotting quality games. Save your indignation for a more suitable target.

While my reason for suggesting a boycott is differant from the OP's.

Simply put, by buying this game your effectively supporting the policies of Activision. We're not just talking about Bobby Kotick and his attitude, but also the complaints about DLC price gouging, and similar things. Basically Activision treats it's customers poorly, and even if they produce a good game, your buying it pretty much encourages them to keep right on doing what they are doing.

Next time you complain about paying say $15 for a couple of maps, remember your the one who bought this product after the numerous complaints that were made. Why the heck should these guys care if your going to line up and put money in thier pocket anyway?

This is to say nothing on the way how Activision raided Infinity Ward (the big creators of the current games) with thugs and ejected them so they wouldn't be paid promised monies and bonuses after making one of the most successful games of all time. By buying this product your saying this was okay too, after all you don't care where your money goes.

On top of this people want to argue about how video games are not an addiction, yet here we see people lining up to buy the product of a company that not only abuses them, but has a guy who takes extreme piggish pride in rubbing that pride in. He sits right there and annouces to the world that he's going to price gouge you for everything your worth, and yet you give him your money after the beating he's administered saying "Thank you sir, can I have another".

To be honest, I see a lot of similarity with addiction. I mean people want their FPS fix so badly, and face so much online peer pressure, that they are willing to endure pretty much anything. Sort of like a heroin addict crawling back for his latest fix, even after the dealer raises the price, cuts it to death with other materials, and demands unspeakable sex acts before he'll let you take it.

... or basically, there are plenty of reasons why people shouldn't be buying this game (or so I feel) even if it is high quality.

Just remember when you play, as your T-bagging your opponents, Bobby Kotick is T-bagging you IRL. >

-

Oh yeah, and all talk about their focus on multi-player aside, isn't this game also fundementally broken? Yesterday people were showing leaked videos of how you can't kill people with a sniper rifle even if you hit the button with them in the shaky crosshairs, and some dude icing like 20 people as a helicopter gunner in under a minute with trivial effort. Not to mention broken "last stand" abillities which have been a problem for the last two CoD games yet still haven't been removed, or turned into something a bit less game busting.

I'm not sure how high quality the game even is, looking at it from the outside objectively. It seems like a giant mess to me.

You have a funny idea of "objective", given that you outlined your bias before passing an opinion on a game you've not played...

You are cramming words into my mouth. Why must my purchase say exactly that? Because you say so?...Ridiculous! Things are not so just because you say they are.

People can buy a COD game without it meaning they're stupid, morally inferior, or that they have Bobby Koticks testicles dangling in their faces. Your own personal moral crusade doesn't obligate everyone else to take up arms.

Just don't insult me by telling me what I think, and what my intentions are.

 

[Therumancer]

It's a good game, probably a lot better than most of the other crap that we've all bought this year irregardless.

I see no sense in boycotting quality games. Save your indignation for a more suitable target.

While my reason for suggesting a boycott is differant from the OP's.

Simply put, by buying this game your effectively supporting the policies of Activision. We're not just talking about Bobby Kotick and his attitude, but also the complaints about DLC price gouging, and similar things. Basically Activision treats it's customers poorly, and even if they produce a good game, your buying it pretty much encourages them to keep right on doing what they are doing.

Next time you complain about paying say $15 for a couple of maps, remember your the one who bought this product after the numerous complaints that were made. Why the heck should these guys care if your going to line up and put money in thier pocket anyway?

This is to say nothing on the way how Activision raided Infinity Ward (the big creators of the current games) with thugs and ejected them so they wouldn't be paid promised monies and bonuses after making one of the most successful games of all time. By buying this product your saying this was okay too, after all you don't care where your money goes.

On top of this people want to argue about how video games are not an addiction, yet here we see people lining up to buy the product of a company that not only abuses them, but has a guy who takes extreme piggish pride in rubbing that pride in. He sits right there and annouces to the world that he's going to price gouge you for everything your worth, and yet you give him your money after the beating he's administered saying "Thank you sir, can I have another".

To be honest, I see a lot of similarity with addiction. I mean people want their FPS fix so badly, and face so much online peer pressure, that they are willing to endure pretty much anything. Sort of like a heroin addict crawling back for his latest fix, even after the dealer raises the price, cuts it to death with other materials, and demands unspeakable sex acts before he'll let you take it.

... or basically, there are plenty of reasons why people shouldn't be buying this game (or so I feel) even if it is high quality.

Just remember when you play, as your T-bagging your opponents, Bobby Kotick is T-bagging you IRL. >

-

Oh yeah, and all talk about their focus on multi-player aside, isn't this game also fundementally broken? Yesterday people were showing leaked videos of how you can't kill people with a sniper rifle even if you hit the button with them in the shaky crosshairs, and some dude icing like 20 people as a helicopter gunner in under a minute with trivial effort. Not to mention broken "last stand" abillities which have been a problem for the last two CoD games yet still haven't been removed, or turned into something a bit less game busting.

I'm not sure how high quality the game even is, looking at it from the outside objectively. It seems like a giant mess to me.

You have a funny idea of "objective", given that you outlined your bias before passing an opinion on a game you've not played...

You are cramming words into my mouth. Why must my purchase say exactly that? Because you say so?...Ridiculous! Things are not so just because you say they are.

People can buy a COD game without it meaning they're stupid, morally inferior, or that they have Bobby Koticks testicles dangling in their faces. Your own personal moral crusade doesn't obligate everyone else to take up arms.

Just don't insult me by telling me what I think, and what my intentions are.

My judgements on Activision are based on their behavior, which is a matter of public record. It's not some kind of unfair bias, where I'm trying to justify some pre-conceived grudge against the company.

Given the availible information this is more or less a pass/fail type situation. If you purchuse this product your supporting Activision's policies.

The point here is that there are other good reasons, aside from what the OP said (multiplayer focus) for boycotting the game.

It's quality is more or less irrelevent to the reasons I stated. I only mentioned the gameplay bits because going by what has been being said here on "The Escapist" it hardly seems like it's meeting with universally rave reviews. I fail to see why I should have to buy a game to point to what other people have been saying and videos that they put up.

I get that you don't like the points I'm making, and that's fine. It's too late for there to be a boycott anyway since the game is already at least a million seller. All I'm doing is pointing out that there are indeed good reasons for people to want to boycott this game, or wish that it had happened.

You've already made up your mind and have apparently purchused it, however consider that carefully if at some point you wind up bellyaching about Activision, the cost of map DLC, or anything else. It's not like you weren't warned, and didn't see it coming.

At any rate I think you miss the point that I was making about there being reasons above and beyond what the OP said. There can be more to a video gaming issue than the games themselves.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

It's a good game, probably a lot better than most of the other crap that we've all bought this year irregardless.

I see no sense in boycotting quality games. Save your indignation for a more suitable target.

While my reason for suggesting a boycott is differant from the OP's.

Simply put, by buying this game your effectively supporting the policies of Activision. We're not just talking about Bobby Kotick and his attitude, but also the complaints about DLC price gouging, and similar things. Basically Activision treats it's customers poorly, and even if they produce a good game, your buying it pretty much encourages them to keep right on doing what they are doing.

Next time you complain about paying say $15 for a couple of maps, remember your the one who bought this product after the numerous complaints that were made. Why the heck should these guys care if your going to line up and put money in thier pocket anyway?

This is to say nothing on the way how Activision raided Infinity Ward (the big creators of the current games) with thugs and ejected them so they wouldn't be paid promised monies and bonuses after making one of the most successful games of all time. By buying this product your saying this was okay too, after all you don't care where your money goes.

On top of this people want to argue about how video games are not an addiction, yet here we see people lining up to buy the product of a company that not only abuses them, but has a guy who takes extreme piggish pride in rubbing that pride in. He sits right there and annouces to the world that he's going to price gouge you for everything your worth, and yet you give him your money after the beating he's administered saying "Thank you sir, can I have another".

To be honest, I see a lot of similarity with addiction. I mean people want their FPS fix so badly, and face so much online peer pressure, that they are willing to endure pretty much anything. Sort of like a heroin addict crawling back for his latest fix, even after the dealer raises the price, cuts it to death with other materials, and demands unspeakable sex acts before he'll let you take it.

... or basically, there are plenty of reasons why people shouldn't be buying this game (or so I feel) even if it is high quality.

Just remember when you play, as your T-bagging your opponents, Bobby Kotick is T-bagging you IRL. >

-

Oh yeah, and all talk about their focus on multi-player aside, isn't this game also fundementally broken? Yesterday people were showing leaked videos of how you can't kill people with a sniper rifle even if you hit the button with them in the shaky crosshairs, and some dude icing like 20 people as a helicopter gunner in under a minute with trivial effort. Not to mention broken "last stand" abillities which have been a problem for the last two CoD games yet still haven't been removed, or turned into something a bit less game busting.

I'm not sure how high quality the game even is, looking at it from the outside objectively. It seems like a giant mess to me.

You have a funny idea of "objective", given that you outlined your bias before passing an opinion on a game you've not played...

You are cramming words into my mouth. Why must my purchase say exactly that? Because you say so?...Ridiculous! Things are not so just because you say they are.

People can buy a COD game without it meaning they're stupid, morally inferior, or that they have Bobby Koticks testicles dangling in their faces. Your own personal moral crusade doesn't obligate everyone else to take up arms.

Just don't insult me by telling me what I think, and what my intentions are.

My judgements on Activision are based on their behavior, which is a matter of public record. It's not some kind of unfair bias, where I'm trying to justify some pre-conceived grudge against the company.

Given the availible information this is more or less a pass/fail type situation. If you purchuse this product your supporting Activision's policies.

The point here is that there are other good reasons, aside from what the OP said (multiplayer focus) for boycotting the game.

It's quality is more or less irrelevent to the reasons I stated. I only mentioned the gameplay bits because going by what has been being said here on "The Escapist" it hardly seems like it's meeting with universally rave reviews. I fail to see why I should have to buy a game to point to what other people have been saying and videos that they put up.

I get that you don't like the points I'm making, and that's fine. It's too late for there to be a boycott anyway since the game is already at least a million seller. All I'm doing is pointing out that there are indeed good reasons for people to want to boycott this game, or wish that it had happened.

You've already made up your mind and have apparently purchused it, however consider that carefully if at some point you wind up bellyaching about Activision, the cost of map DLC, or anything else. It's not like you weren't warned, and didn't see it coming.

At any rate I think you miss the point that I was making about there being reasons above and beyond what the OP said. There can be more to a video gaming issue than the games themselves.

I understand perfectly well, I'm just not willing to assert anything as "right" with any authority(it's arrogant)...that's why my reply is a little unfocused. Moral ambiguity and your proposed consumer responibility aside, I just think it's up to each individual to decide what the value for money is. I'll probably be done with the game in 2 weeks, I'm not so susceptible to being price gouged(can't even think of one piece of additional DLC I've bought), but my feelings are irrelevent if others like that stuff.

My objection is with your lack of willing to see subjectivity on the issue. You're projecting your own ideals and morality onto me, and expecting it to fit...there's no reason that it should.

"Given the availible information this is more or less a pass/fail type situation. If you purchuse this product your supporting Activision's policies."

Can you justify why this should pass beyond the realms of being your opinion and become some kind of moral law? And that's not even to say that I think you're wrong, pretty much all of the major publishers have done/implimented something that I don't entirely approve of at some point, but I won't pass judgement on those who buy the games anyway.