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Saelune

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As a extremely depressed transexual too....I am against taking medication for depression. Id rather actually be happy instead, and also I see too often that starting on them just leads to being drowned in pills.
Apparently you can be depressed without any outer cause, and maybe thats a valid reason for meds, but if not, I wouldnt and wont. Its your call though.
 

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Lucien Pyrus said:
The Lost Big Boss said:
Anti-Depressants are, in short, bullshit.

Get out and take a jog and lift some weights and take some B-Vitamins.

The B-vit. do what the drugs are supposed to do, make your brain chem. balanced, but without all the extra fucked up shit that comes along with the drugs.
Get out. Now. Do some real research on medicine. Anti-depressants exist for a reason.
I know right, what do I know? Its not like my mom has been on anti-depressants and they have all failed. Its not like the the pharmaceutical industry has its whole dick in the FDA, approving drug X, that really shouldn't be approved. Its not like my mom and extended family who have been battling depression have felt much better after taking the vitamin, and don't run the risk of side effects.

Yea, what do I know.
 

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At the O.P.: take the meds. Doctors are trying to help you get better and ignoring their advice can endanger yourself.
Yoshemo said:
Using meds as a crutch should be the last step you take. You should see a psychologist or do research on how to reduce the symptoms of depression before you start any regulatory medicine. Anti-depressants don't cure you, they just make it less apparent and can make you unable to handle the symptoms if you stop taking them for some reason, but they can help if used with proper treatment. Plus they increase risk of suicide (its not made up, chemicals can do weird stuff to your brain) and won't be a permanent solution on their own. Try therapy, it starts off slow but it really does work.
Both me and all my psychology professors (I'm training to be a psychiatrist and they're already to that level) agree on this. The reason doctors are so fast to prescribe anti-depressants is because they make a lot of money from it. Take the pills if you really can't function without them, but at least get therapy help.
That is awful advice.

Reserving medication for when all else fails is stupid and dangerous.

Anti-depressant are [sarcasm]shockingly[/sarcasm] a perfectly fine way to treat depression (also, they are a part of proper treatment f.y.i). Yes, taking any medication can have side effects but not taking them when they are needed is way more risky. Saying that going off of meds making you get worse is because of the meds is ridiculous. You are getting worse because you aren't on the medication that you should be on.

Also, doctors tend to prescribe meds when they are the best treatment option, not to line their own wallets.
 

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Piece of advice from my psychology professor (who also has clinical depression and is on antidepressants): if you start taking them and find that they work for you, don't stop until your doctor/psychiatrist tells you to. Some people think they're all cured after taking the drugs for a while, so they stop taking them. This can make the depression rebound, and even worse.
 

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Eh, they work for me. I still violently explode at odd times but overall my emotions are relatively placid. Thing with antidepressants is that you can't take them on-off. Otherwise it just screws with your brain's chemistry over and over due to your body having to readjust all the time. Give it a shot, say several months. If it's getting worse, tell someone.
Most of all, I think you've done pretty well to make it to your finals. It's damn difficult with depression weighing you down and no matter what people say about 'manning up', I think you're right to feel the way that you do. I guess you have to just keep moving on in life, otherwise things will just remain as they are.
 

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SailorShale said:
I have been on a few, so I recognize what you're going through to some extent (I won't claim to understand your exact situation). Personally, they never helped me, but that's because I was misdiagnosed to some extent and I have other medical problems that make it difficult for me to cope with any kind of side effects. Anyway, if your doctors recommend taking medication than you really should do some internet research of your own and then seriously consider taking it. If the concept of altering your thoughts or personality bothers you, then instead try thinking of it this way: for some silly, random reason the chemicals in your body aren't as optimally balanced as they are for most people. If the medication works like its supposed to, then you'll finally have the opportunity to enjoy your life as much as anybody else.

Good luck with whatever happens.
 

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Joker has the most infectious giggle I know so I thought it'd make a good post :D. My sister worries that she has that effect on people (she gets very down recently) but you said that you were still putting on a happy face for the interviews so unless they're part dog, it seems unlikely that they'd pick up on it like that - at least to the extent that it's making you lose out. Moods can spread but not like herpes. Repeat after me, 'I DO NOT HAVE SADNESS HERPES'.
 

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I've been described as "depressed" before. Whenever it's suggested to me that I go on a medication I feel insulted.
 

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JUMBO PALACE said:
If you can't function then just take the damn pills.

I honestly don't understand why every-other person says they have depression. Surely things aren't that bad. Buck up.
Depression isn't always caused by bad things happening to you, it may also be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain that makes certain neurotransmitters unable to secrete serotonin, so telling them to "buck up" wont really do anything since it's out of their control.

OT: I wont tell you what you should do since I haven't been in that situation myself, got no experience with that kind of drug, but if your doctor tells you too, I'd trust his opinion over random internet people.
 

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Double A said:
Isn't one of the side-effects they list "thoughts of suicide?"

Can someone please explain to me how the fuck thinking about suicide isn't a sign of being even more depressed? Why don't we just call anti-depressants "depressants?"

Anyway, don't. If you smoke, stop doing that. Smoking is a depressant. Play more video games with friends and watch more funny TV shows and web videos is my diagnosis, for all the good it'll do you. I guess My Little Pony would help? I dunno, I'm not a doctor. Then again, I don't get paid to subscribe people medicine, which is probably why your doc wants you on anti-depressants.
They reduce the chance that you will commit suicide.
 

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OP: take the fucking pills. There's something wrong with you, you're sick, you know how you get better from an illness? by taking you god damn pills.
What you're talking about is taking penicillin when you've got an infection. That is a finite, physical problem that is easy to diagnose and repair. That's fine..... as far as it goes. Now, arragonder, I'm going to use some grown-up words, so try hard to keep up.

What the REST of us are talking about is this:

Depression is the mental equivalent of having your legs chopped off. You feel like half a person, like you are BROKEN and there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about it. You see people all around you who are happy and whole but that only reinforces how INCOMPLETE you feel. After all, they managed to be happy, and they're not exactly perfect, so there must be something terribly, TERRIBLY wrong with YOU. You feel like this all the time. You can't help it. You can't just wish it away, any more than a legless person can wish their limbs back. Depression cannot be simply "cured" by a pill, or a swift kick in the ass, or any other quick and easy remedy you might devise. This is because of three things.

First, mental states and their causes are intangible abstracts which exist only inside our heads. We're not even entirely sure what thoughts or emotions ARE. This means we cannot affect them with the precision or accuracy we normally like to have in science.

Second, psychopharmacology -- real, USEFUL psychopharmacology -- is only fifty years old. That might sound like a long time to you but much of it is still experimental. Any study of thoughts or emotions is hampered by the subjects' inability accurately to describe their feelings, by the ingrained biases and opinions of the researchers, and by the limited (though large) number of chemicals which can be safely applied to the body and brain.

Third, the brain is UNIMAGINABLY complicated. Imagine the brain as a series of connected roads, FAR larger and more complex than all the roads in the world put together. Now imagine you have to deliver a package to an address somewhere on one of those roads. Now imagine half the roads are one-way. Only 10% of the roads have signs. Now imagine for every wrong turn you make, catastrophic damage will occur -- a tunnel collapsing, a 100-car pileup, whatever. You begin to see the impossibility of "curing" a mental state with the simple application of pills.

What this all means is pills designed to change your emotions must be VERY carefully concocted and administered and EVEN THEN they come with a host of problems. They use some potentially very complex chemicals which inevitably have potentially dubious effects. Often they do not FIX the problem, they merely let you TRADE your problem for a NEW problem you MAY OR MAY NOT find less annoying than the original problem. For example, a friend of mine can't drive cars or take tae kwon do anymore because he's on medicine which, as a side effect, whacks out his balance and coordination. I am not making this up. He takes antipsychotics to trade uncontrollable episodes of hostility (a problem) for having to give up cars, martial arts, and other things (a different problem).

Now, to return to the legs-chopped-off analogy: People without legs can use wheelchairs in the hope of experiencing a reasonable quality of life, but anyone in a wheelchair can tell you there are long, long lists of things regular folks take for granted which the wheelchair-bound simply cannot ever do. Many of the "normal" things that *can* be done from a wheelchair take so much longer or are so awkward that it might be better not to try. The wheelchair isn't a cure for the problem, it's just the best we can do. Antidepressants are the same thing: They don't make you better, they just let you roll along as best you can. The choice to take them is neither obvious nor ideal.
 

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Kinda been in a weird situation with anti-depressants. A few years ago a psychiatrist misdiagnosed my pesimistic middle-school attitude for depression and had me start taking meds. Turns out that the meds were actually making my attitude worse and were giving me chronic headaches, so much so that I frequently found myself being sent home from school. So yeah, I don't think anti-depressants are such a good idea, but I've never been actually depressed before so my advice is limited.
 

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To OP: Nobody on the Escapist forums is qualified to tell you what to do. I have been walking the borderland between normalcy and clinical depression for as long as I can remember and have found nothing which combats it effectively. If I felt any better I could almost have a life; if I felt any worse I'd have killed myself long since. I wish I had something better to tell you.
 

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well, I probably have clinical depression. I have regular (daily) thoughts of suicide for as long as I can remember (about fourth grade or so). I am going to see a psychologist tomorrow (or today) and see what to do about it. Since both my sister and father have had to go on anti-depressants I think eventually I will be put on them too.

Don't see how much they can help but don't see how they can make things much worse at this point.

My advice: do what you think will help you, maybe its something as simple as working out and getting a better self image of your self. maybe it is talking to a therapist, and maybe it is drugs.

I think the fact that you are trying to get better will have at least as much impact as the "help" itself.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
I am supposed to be on Anti-Depressants, but I hate mind altering medication, so I skip it 90% of the time. It works for some people though, just against my personal rules.
Um, that doesn't seem like a good idea... doesn't it take like a month for it to work after you have been taking it regularly, so wouldn't that mean it doesn't work? And I also heard that the weird feeling of being in an altered state of mind goes away.
 

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The_Healer said:
Before you take drugs, try taking up exercise.

Don't look at me like that. Exercise is very good for your mental health.
Listen to this guy. Exercise is good for all body systems, brain included. If you're fighting depression - EXERCISE.

@OP

I've been in psychiatric treatment for about 12 years now, presently medicated at:

Sertraline (Zoloft) - 200mg/d
Trazadone (Desyrel) - 50mg/d
Clonazepam (Klonopin) - 4mg/d
Propanolol (Inderal) - 40mg/d

- Quetiapine (Seroquel)
- Rispiridone (Respiridal)
- Fluoxetine (Prozac)
- Paroxetine (Paxil)
- Venlafaxine (Effexor)
- Citalopram (Celexa)
- Diazepam (Valium)
- Lorazepam (Ativan)
- Zopiclone (Imovane)
- Neurontin (Gabapentin)
- Bupropion (Wellbutrin)

First off, rather than "the blues" my experience with major, chronic unipolar Depression is that of listlessness, lethargy, confusion and numbness. It's a lot like spending your life half drunk without the buzz, except when you feel mind general anxiety or accute panic attacks which are usually part and parcel with depression for most.

Second, do your own research and take an active role in your own treatment. YOU know what's right and works for YOU. If something makes you feel REALLY BAD right from the onset, get off that shit. There's a lot of TYPES of medicines used to treat depression - do research and take some summary notes on all of them. One thing from my own experience to strongly avoid unless you are REALLY out of options is the increasingly prevalent (and disturbing) use of anti-psychotics as off label depression treatment. You don't want to be on anti-psychotics for a variety of reasons.

Basically, QUESTION what they give you and look it up. Some of it MAY help, but Doctors approach to psychiatry these days seem to be to load a shotgun full of pills and aim it at you. Certainly happened to me.

Third, yeah, being on meds sucks and I'm hoping to reduce or possibly even eliminate my use of psychiatric medications in the future, but at the same time, lots of people live on meds they need and we all get on with a relatively normal life: Diabetics, heart patients, etc. Ultimately, it's not THAT restrictive.

G'luck.

Also, props to Johnny Impact on a good post on a lot of stuff that's true but I didn't talk about.

EDIT:

Also, on a more upbeat note, for all the problems I've had - detailed somewhat in the above post - post, I've lead a good goddamn life and I recognize my good fortune along with whatever issues I've faced. Woe ISN'T me, I'm just a guy with some issues, same as anyone else and I take no relish in being a gloomy prat when I know I can find some humor in life and my own problems and laugh when I can. :)
 

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Double A said:
Isn't one of the side-effects they list "thoughts of suicide?"

Can someone please explain to me how the fuck thinking about suicide isn't a sign of being even more depressed? Why don't we just call anti-depressants "depressants?"

Anyway, don't. If you smoke, stop doing that. Smoking is a depressant. Play more video games with friends and watch more funny TV shows and web videos is my diagnosis, for all the good it'll do you. I guess My Little Pony would help? I dunno, I'm not a doctor. Then again, I don't get paid to subscribe people medicine, which is probably why your doc wants you on anti-depressants.
Most "long term" medication has a risk of side effects they are designed to combat. Especially ones that deal with brain chemistry as it takes a while for it to settle at an equilibrium.

Side effect lists always cheer me up anyway, there are some cracking ones on some medication. The nerve blockers I get prescribed have one possible side effect "Unusual walking style" that just conjured up images of the Ministry of Silly Walks in my head.


I know in the UK, at least on the NHS, government targets and evaluations prefer doctors NOT to prescribe anything that isn't necessary. They didn't give me my medication until the final thing they tried simply because the drugs are very expensive. Thanks to the NHS I get them for free but if I had to pay for them myself they would cost me £100 a month approximately.