Anti-Microsoft-ism
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Because large corporations can effectively control the perception of their brands due to the ability to throw millions of dollars in PR, and this will only get worse as multinationals become more and more detached from local governments and marketing theories become more refined, to instinctively hate large corporations is a natural response to be encouraged, as a form of checks and balances, whereas to love and defend them (fanboyism) while also natural as a result of their marketing should be avoided.
That is, I don't know why it happens, but I'm glad it does. (Even if I don't partake on it myself.)
Now I really want to play Shadowrun.
That is, I don't know why it happens, but I'm glad it does. (Even if I don't partake on it myself.)
Now I really want to play Shadowrun.
My reasons for not supporting Microsoft are:
- They don't care for standards in various matters
- Vista (That was my reason to finally switch to Linux)
- Kubuntu is so much more comfortable to use
- I prefer the mindset behind open source software
Yeah, I'm a Linux girl for the most part. I use Windows 7 for gaming, though. Using Linux is a little bit like being vegetarian: You know that you do the right thing and everyone else thinks it's really hard.
- They don't care for standards in various matters
- Vista (That was my reason to finally switch to Linux)
- Kubuntu is so much more comfortable to use
- I prefer the mindset behind open source software
Yeah, I'm a Linux girl for the most part. I use Windows 7 for gaming, though. Using Linux is a little bit like being vegetarian: You know that you do the right thing and everyone else thinks it's really hard.
So I thought it would be fun to make a game and put it on my website.
When you try to download it, warnings pop up it says unknown publisher may contain viruses.
in ie9 it wont let me download it.
To get rid of that message I have to verify myself.
That costs $500 a year to get rid of that message.
Thats why I hate microsoft thats a crappy scam.
When you try to download it, warnings pop up it says unknown publisher may contain viruses.
in ie9 it wont let me download it.
To get rid of that message I have to verify myself.
That costs $500 a year to get rid of that message.
Thats why I hate microsoft thats a crappy scam.
When it comes to games Nintendo and Sony pay people to make games, Microsoft pay people not to make them. When it comes to OS they bully any competition out of the marketplace, add in standards to throttle any competition then deliberately make appalling releases so you'll be more encouraged to upgrade.
Considering that Apple is the only largest competitor in the pre-built Desktop Computer OS division (Apple also makes their own systems, so they also are technically competitors with DELL, HP & the like, but that's a different story) who make money, M$ tries to keep a tight reign over their infestation network of Dell, HP and the like to try and prevent Linux, Unix (basically the grandaddy of the modern OS), BeOS, SuSe and a whole myriad of non-M$/non-Apple OSes from getting even a fraction of a percent as OSes on pre-built machines.ScourgeOfHell said:
Of course, that doesn't stop those who build their computers from the chassis up from installing Linux or any of the other OSes out there, but a fair portion of those who do that are Gamers who want a top-notch rig that can "handle" the games they'll throw at it, generally that's where a good portion of the retail/OTS sales of Windows goes as most major Computer Gaming companies code for Windows as a Primary aim with Mac and *nix as Secondary and Tertiary aims at best, since M$ provides incentives that'd be otherwise getting them in hot water over trying to monopolize the desktop gaming world (which they've basically done anyway).
TL
R - Basically, Microsoft wants to screw you over and they do so by making you pay for the lube, for them to use it on your bunghole AND for the whole experience.
Everyone that likes to think they know something about computers tend to jump on the critisize Microsoft bandwagon. It really doesn't matter though. They will keep using Windows and buying Office. They just like to criticize things because, well, its fun.
A monopoly is good for THEM but it takes away competition and choice for us. As consumers spending money for products we pretty much have to have we are allowed to hate monopolies and the companies that have used shady business practices to get them.ScourgeOfHell said:
Yay, for Microsoft's monopoly!
Did you really just start the thread to try to get consumers to see that a monopoly was a good thing? Your repeated posting of this makes me question your motives in starting the thread.
It's a perfectly valid reason to dislike a company, not to go on about how Bill Gates is the anti-Christ and Microsoft is Satan here to destroy the world with it's Nazi army like some people would have you believe. I don't care for Apple, the one iPod I owned broke after about six months, Mac OS is the worst operating system I've ever seen, and I find the userbase to be incredibly pretentious, but I've got no reason to personally hate Apple.JezebelinHell said:
And while I don't pretend to be a technical genius, I've been deeper into Windows than most people know exists, and I've seen very little in the way of bullshit in Vista. Sure, there are things I'd have done differently, things that could have been better optimized or have a better interface, but I've seen nothing to cause me the deep, undying, personal hatred of Microsoft some people seem to feel.
First things first:
In re: 'M$' [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/22/]
Now, on to the show...
Also, guess what? Host servers have nothing to do with client servers at Blizzard: Blizzard offers and supports an OSX client for World of Warcraft, so your argument is specious.
In regards to the 'hidden stuff', the inclusion of a full code-base only started happening as of Vista, when it was discovered that it was a more efficient (and even more eco-friendly) production method than printing out seperate DVDs for each SKU. I'm going to assume that your outrage is feigned, given that you basically just said "OMG! MICROSOFT IS EVIL FOR CHARGING MORE MONEY FOR MORE FEATURES!!!1!" I don't believe that you expect to get a fully loaded car for the price of the base model, so I'm guessing you have to be kidding about that. Oh, the outrage: I have to pay more to get more. Imagine that.
OT: People hate on Microsoft because nobody likes Goliath. Now, admittedly, Microsoft probably engaged in some shady, borderline-illegal activities early on; this is not very different in other 'new industries' in previous eras of American history, however. Consider, say, the Oil barons such as Rockefeller, or the Rail barons, or Pulitzer, Hearst et al., Morgan and Schwab, Carnegie in the steel industry... I could go on.
Does that make what Microsoft may or may not have done right? No, but neither does it make them some sort of Empire of Evil. Microsoft was and is a company trying not only to be successful but to be the most successful in its industry.
Ultimately, the answer is just that: success breeds jealousy, and jealousy motivates hate. Every big company has its detractors; you just need to educate yourself and make your own decisions.
In re: 'M$' [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/22/]
Now, on to the show...
That's funny. Last I checked, OpenGL still existed and is still used. Is DirectX easier to program for? Many times, yes. But please explain to me how, exactly, it is 'evil' to design a suite of tools that makes it easier to work with your product. Please cite examples of 'corporate blackmail' before you go tossing the accusation out there.ElNeroDiablo said:
Also, guess what? Host servers have nothing to do with client servers at Blizzard: Blizzard offers and supports an OSX client for World of Warcraft, so your argument is specious.
'Under the table antics'? What, did nobody notice that every single Dell, HP, Compaq, etc. computer was shipping with Windows installed? If it was illegal, wouldn't the government have stepped in? (Remember, the anti-trust lawsuit was over the browser, not the operating system.) And why, exactly, did Dell, HP, etc agree to this if it was such a bad deal for them? Did they really have no choice, or did Microsoft just present them with a compelling- and legal- offer?ElNeroDiablo said:
In regards to the 'hidden stuff', the inclusion of a full code-base only started happening as of Vista, when it was discovered that it was a more efficient (and even more eco-friendly) production method than printing out seperate DVDs for each SKU. I'm going to assume that your outrage is feigned, given that you basically just said "OMG! MICROSOFT IS EVIL FOR CHARGING MORE MONEY FOR MORE FEATURES!!!1!" I don't believe that you expect to get a fully loaded car for the price of the base model, so I'm guessing you have to be kidding about that. Oh, the outrage: I have to pay more to get more. Imagine that.
Actually, Nathan Myhrvold was the tech genius. Gates was the business mind (so yes, he was still responsible for many of your accusations), and Allen bridged the gap between the two houses.ElNeroDiablo said:
OT: People hate on Microsoft because nobody likes Goliath. Now, admittedly, Microsoft probably engaged in some shady, borderline-illegal activities early on; this is not very different in other 'new industries' in previous eras of American history, however. Consider, say, the Oil barons such as Rockefeller, or the Rail barons, or Pulitzer, Hearst et al., Morgan and Schwab, Carnegie in the steel industry... I could go on.
Does that make what Microsoft may or may not have done right? No, but neither does it make them some sort of Empire of Evil. Microsoft was and is a company trying not only to be successful but to be the most successful in its industry.
Ultimately, the answer is just that: success breeds jealousy, and jealousy motivates hate. Every big company has its detractors; you just need to educate yourself and make your own decisions.
Ok granted Microsoft has a pretty questionable CV, but still, you dont see that kind of hatred for other monopolistic companies, like EXON or Wall-mart, what makes Microsoft the spoilt apple of everyone's eyes.
The money he "takes with glee" is then put into one of the largest charities in the world. Hasn't he innoculated all of India from Measles, and is making massive progress in Africa?The_Yeti said:
Give the guy some credit, he's saved more lives than many of us ever will.
Oh and another thing I gather is that people seem to hate vista. So basically were condemning an entire company because they released one shitty product.
The AAA PC gaming industry is nowhere near what it was a decade ago thanks to Microsoft. When Microsoft started up the Xbox, they managed to take a whole bunch of PC (and Mac) specific studios and convinced them to develop primarily for the Xbox which started the whole slippery slope.
I must say though that I'm starting to like microsoft more since Windows 7. When they released Vista, it felt very much like they were catering ONLY to the every-day people, any everyone who actually had knowledge of how to stay secure yourself, and liked having at least some freedom in your own computer (yes, it's still restricted, but it's better than it used to be, at least). I think the major reason I'm starting to like them, is because the others (read: Apple) are becoming the new tards of the industry. With apple, many game-companies and several others that are of interest to me getting more "evil", microsoft just doesn't seem that bad in comparison.