any homosexual/bisexuals here on the escapist?

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Aylaine said:
I'm a bisexual female. I want to discuss things!

So this thread has a bit more purpose, what exactly did you want to discuss?
I think your Formspring does that quite well, Ayla :p

OT: I'm straight, but I will admit to a man crush on David Tennant.
 

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Lardo said:
Well, since I stumbled upon this thread, I might as well ask the question that's been bugging me for a while now. I'm a straight man myself and I never met a gay/bisexual person in real life (that I know of), but still I'm curious about bisexuality. I thought about it, and I can see how homosexuality is natural and there's nothing wrong with that. Bisexuality, however, is a whole different story. I mean, people eventually start looking for a partner, a long term companion they can start a family with, settle down. Straight people look for partners of opposite sex, gay - partners of same sex. So, my question is: what about bisexuals? I think, eventually, they have to make a choice, one way or another. I don't mean to offend anyone, but it seems to me that bisexuals are just sex addicts (again, I would have used a different term, but I don't want to offend anyone), who can't figure out their sexuality and need professional help. Comments?
I'm not a sex addict and I'm bisexual. I'm attracted to both genders. I don't find everyone I meet sexually attractive. There are some people who are so emotionally connected to a friend that they could never think of romantically because they're not a gender that they are attracted to physically. I can be a attracted to the personality and the shell doesn't really matter to me. I don't go looking around to have sex with both male and female individuals. I just just don't rule romantic partners based on gender.
 

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mimssy said:
I'm not a sex addict and I'm bisexual. I'm attracted to both genders. I don't find everyone I meet sexually attractive. There are some people who are so emotionally connected to a friend that they could never think of romantically because they're not a gender that they are attracted to physically. I can be a attracted to the personality and the shell doesn't really matter to me. I don't go looking around to have sex with both male and female individuals. I just just don't rule romantic partners based on gender.
OK, I guess you're a perfect example of a type of person Mr Cwtchy was talking about. You're searching for a soul mate, whatever gender he may be. Still, I just don't get it. AFAIK, sexual orientation is not something you acquire, but something you discover. In other words, one can't become gay, he is born like this. Therefore, sexual orientation is something physiological, not psychological. It has something to do with the balance of male/female hormones, and if the balance is disturbed, one's gender identity becomes screwed up and he becomes attracted to people of the same sex. So, it just doesn't seem possible to me for a person to be bisexual for physiological reasons.
 

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Lardo said:
mimssy said:
I'm not a sex addict and I'm bisexual. I'm attracted to both genders. I don't find everyone I meet sexually attractive. There are some people who are so emotionally connected to a friend that they could never think of romantically because they're not a gender that they are attracted to physically. I can be a attracted to the personality and the shell doesn't really matter to me. I don't go looking around to have sex with both male and female individuals. I just just don't rule romantic partners based on gender.
OK, I guess you're a perfect example of a person Mr Cwtchy was talking about. You're searching for a soul mate, whatever gender he may be. Still I just don't get it. AFAIK, sexual orientation is not something you acquire, but something you discover. In other words, one can't become gay, he is born like this. Therefore, sexual orientation is something physiological, not psychological. It has something to do with the balance of male/female hormones, and if the balance is disturbed, one's gender identity becomes screwed up and he becomes attracted to people of the same sex. So, it just doesn't seem possible to me for a person to be bisexual for physiological reasons.
I don't see gender identity as being "screwed up." Sex is biological. Gender is cultural. Gender identity is something that is learned unlike sex organs that you're born with. I've was never taught to be straight and I've been attracted to people first then sex later. I can't really answer your question. Did I choose to like both genders? No. Was I taught to like both genders? No. Have I known anything else? No. In truth, I wasn't aware that I was in the minority until I was in middle school. I didn't really understand that most people only were attracted to members of the opposite sex. It's not like I was exposed to many gay people (none that I can think of until I was in my teens) nor were my parents particularly liberal, so such topics were never discussed.
 

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mimssy said:
I don't see gender identity as being "screwed up."
Of course you don't. I understand that you consider your situation absolutely normal, otherwise you'd probably have done something about it already.

Sex is biological. Gender is cultural. Gender identity is something that is learned unlike sex organs that you're born with.
Well, I don't agree with you on this one. You're saying, genitalia and gender identity are totally unrelated things, because you develop genitalia before you are born and learn your gender identity later, while growing up. That doesn't make sense to me. Like I said, I think sexual orientation is not something you can learn.

In truth, I wasn't aware that I was in the minority until I was in middle school. I didn't really understand that most people only were attracted to members of the opposite sex.
That doesn't change the fact that you are in the minority. For me, one thing is obvious: males and females have genitalia that biologically fit each other. Females cannot procreate without males, and sex is primarily a means for procreation, therefore males are meant to be sexually attracted to females and vice versa. I'm not saying that you being attracted to males is a tragedy of epic proportions, but I definitely see it as a "screwed up situation".
 

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Lardo said:
Well, since I stumbled upon this thread, I might as well ask the question that's been bugging me for a while now. I'm a straight man myself and I never met a gay/bisexual person in real life (that I know of), but still I'm curious about bisexuality. I thought about it, and I can see how homosexuality is natural and there's nothing wrong with that. Bisexuality, however, is a whole different story. I mean, people eventually start looking for a partner, a long term companion they can start a family with, settle down. Straight people look for partners of opposite sex, gay - partners of same sex. So, my question is: what about bisexuals? I think, eventually, they have to make a choice, one way or another. I don't mean to offend anyone, but it seems to me that bisexuals are just sex addicts (again, I would have used a different term, but I don't want to offend anyone), who can't figure out their sexuality and need professional help. Comments?

they can be loyal to one person of any sex
 

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mimssy said:
Lardo said:
Well, since I stumbled upon this thread, I might as well ask the question that's been bugging me for a while now. I'm a straight man myself and I never met a gay/bisexual person in real life (that I know of), but still I'm curious about bisexuality. I thought about it, and I can see how homosexuality is natural and there's nothing wrong with that. Bisexuality, however, is a whole different story. I mean, people eventually start looking for a partner, a long term companion they can start a family with, settle down. Straight people look for partners of opposite sex, gay - partners of same sex. So, my question is: what about bisexuals? I think, eventually, they have to make a choice, one way or another. I don't mean to offend anyone, but it seems to me that bisexuals are just sex addicts (again, I would have used a different term, but I don't want to offend anyone), who can't figure out their sexuality and need professional help. Comments?
I'm not a sex addict and I'm bisexual. I'm attracted to both genders. I don't find everyone I meet sexually attractive. There are some people who are so emotionally connected to a friend that they could never think of romantically because they're not a gender that they are attracted to physically. I can be a attracted to the personality and the shell doesn't really matter to me. I don't go looking around to have sex with both male and female individuals. I just just don't rule romantic partners based on gender.
thats how i see it for my self. im attaracted to the person, not the gender
 

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Lardo said:
Sex is biological. Gender is cultural. Gender identity is something that is learned unlike sex organs that you're born with.
Well, I don't agree with you on this one. You're saying, genitalia and gender identity are totally unrelated things, because you develop genitalia before you are born and learn your gender identity later, while growing up. That doesn't make sense to me. Like I said, I think sexual orientation is not something you can learn.
Gender identity is not sexual orientation. Gender identity is what gender you identify with and what traits are considered characteristic of the sexes (what is masculine, what is feminine). That is learned based on socialization. You don't learn your personality traits, you are born with them; however, you learn to associate them with a certain sex. Biologically, I am female; however, if I were to list all my personality traits, I'd be considered more masculine. Gender identity doesn't determine sexual orientation.
 

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mimssy said:
Gender identity is not sexual orientation.
I guess not, but they are certainly related somehow.

Gender identity is what gender you identify with
Period.

and what traits are considered characteristic of the sexes (what is masculine, what is feminine).
No!

That is learned based on socialization. You don't learn your personality traits, you are born with them; however, you learn to associate them with a certain sex.
True, but irrelevant. Let's say I'm a man who likes to cook and wear make-up. Sure, that doesn't mean I'm not seeing myself as a man, it means that I don't give a damn that people consider those things to be feminine.

Biologically, I am female
First of all, I'm sorry. I was under the impression that you were male. Should have checked your profile first thing.

however, if I were to list all my personality traits, I'd be considered more masculine. Gender identity doesn't determine sexual orientation.
Again, that is true, but that just not what "gender identity" is. The way I see it, it's simple: do you feel like a woman? If yes, then your gender identity is female. It doesn't matter whether you like jeans, t-shirts, boxing and other things that are generally considered "masculine" or not. Gender identity is about how you perceive yourself, not about how others perceive you.