Amethyst Wind said:
Yeah, you're right. I have said sentences like that in the past. I was being unspecific and, essentially, wrong. If I can help it I never make generalisations like that, I always try for specific examples, I probably don't always succeed, such is life.
You're not into JRPGs you've played anyway.
No, I'm not into JRPGs. One thing you are forgetting is that genres have similar themes. I love Jazz music because I love the musical structure of it. I don't have to listen to every piece of jazz music to know I enjoy it.
Same thing with JRPGs. Of course they differ. Kingdom Hearts is very different to Final Fantasy - but I dislike both heavily. Why should I be forced to sit through every JRPG on the planet to come to the conclusion that I
just don't enjoy them.
Amethyst Wind said:
Logically "I am into JRPGs" is an un-truth. Logic has its own terminology and structure within other languages. Please don't mistake me when I say something is 'logically wrong'. It doesn't mean the same as 'functionally wrong'.
And yet I have a funny feeling that if I said "I am into JRPGs" you wouldn't of said a thing.
Amethyst Wind said:
Functionally, sure you can say you like Japanese food without trying all varieties. Logically, you can't, it's unspecific and there isn't enough information in the propositions to follow it through to a valid conclusion
I love the fact that you have divided functionality and logic here. The are, or rather should, be near synonyms. No one on Earth follows your mental "logic" here. Admit it!
Amethyst Wind said:
The reason I didn't pick up on other people talking in general terms about genres is because I'm already addressing the concept in my discussion with you. Repetition will come later if needed.
I'm sorry, but, I don't believe you. I want to, but I just don't haha. I think the only reason you initiated this argument is because you like JRPGs and you want to defend them. Your post count would be in the millions if you really thought this way, because every time someone says they like or dislike a genre you'd have to call them out.
Amethyst Wind said:
Of course you can dismiss or praise something, provided you've experienced it. You can't dismiss an entire perceived group simply through specific examples you've experienced, you can only dismiss the examples.
Amethyst Wind said:
All this "next time, make sure you..." stuff leads me to believe that you're angry about our exchange here. I hope this isn't the case. This is simply Devil's Advocate for me (possibly some Socratic reasoning thrown in too, though I'm not sure if that's right, I'll need to get back to you), there's no ill intention here, I'm simply looking for a frank and engaging discussion. You haven't disappointed.
I'm not angry with you in the slightest. The repetition of "next time..." was to enforce how ludicrous your point is. As I said before, the world doesn't work the way you are arguing here. If every piece of Chinese food I have eaten has disgusted me, then I am allowed to say "I do not like Chinese food". I don't have to delve into a discussion involving abstract logic saying:
"Well, rather, I should clarify that I don't like fried rice, beef noodle soup, honey chicken, honey prawns, Mongolian beef, Kung Pao chicken, Jiaozi or Youtiao. Similarly, I have a strong distaste for Hot and sour soup, Won ton soup, ginger duck, fish cake and spring rolls. However, I have not had dish number 23 and dish number 38 from my local Chinese resturant yet. So, that leads me to believe that perhaps my original - and may I say totally illogical! - thought of not enjoying Chinese food Per se was incorrect. So, excuse me for that. Let me reprhase. I don't like fried rice, beef noodle soup, honey chicken, honey prawns, Mongolian beef, Kung Pao chicken, Jiaozi or Youtiao. Hot and sour soup, Won ton soup, ginger duck, fish cake and spring rolls. There."
That sounds more like a conversation with Rain Man rather than someone who is logical to me!
Amethyst Wind said:
P.S. I left the "sonny boy" in the quote box because it made me chuckle.
