Thanks, I'm happy to be here! I mean, Yahtzee and Jim Sterling aside, this site kicks ass on a general basis.Purplecoyote said:Lesbian here! And welcome to The Escapist!
Most certainly! God, compared to other nerd/geek/gamer sites I've been a part of (i.e. roleplayerguild.com), this place is so friendly to trans people! It's awesome!Skywolf09 said:Bisexual-with-a-Male-preference guy here, just droppin' by to say hello and welcome! Hope you enjoy your stay!
Which, well, I'm sure you will. As others have pointed out, the LGBT community is pretty well represented here, so you're not alone no matter what sexuality or gender you associate yourself with. =)
*Curtsies*EscapeGoat said:Bi-guy here, wanted to say hi and give a belated welcome to The Escapist!
I have to admit, outside of LGBT-related forums, The Escapist does have one of the nicest and most accepting communities in it. I can't think of any points off the top of my head where I've gone into a thread where someone pointed out their sexuality and got blasted for it, at least.
Anyway, enjoy your stay!
Thank you. Must be a very recent development. Had a very progressive sex ed class in college barely two years and half years ago. Didn't mention 'QUILTBAG' at all. Though, thankfully, it did mention asexuals... though that was before I had... admitted to myself that I was one.Bara_no_Hime said:It was defined farther up this page, but I'll copy/paste in case anyone missed it the first two times.TheDoctor455 said:Thank you. Hmm... I think I can guess what some of 'QUILTBAG' stands for, would you mind clarifying it for me, and others who might be confused by the term?
Thank you.
Queer/questioning
Undecided
Intersex
Lesbian
Transgender/Transsexual
Bisexual
Asexual
Gay
As noted, the L,G,B, and T are identical to the same letters in LGBT, but there are additional letters for other related groups including Asexuals.
Thank you. Hmm... if you'd like to chat with me, feel free to PM me. Fair warning though: I'm an aspiring writer. Just about everything anyone ever says to me has the potential to turn up somewhere in my work.TheTransgenderedGamer said:Oh, honey...TheDoctor455 said:Thank you. Hmm... I think I can guess what some of 'QUILTBAG' stands for, would you mind clarifying it for me, and others who might be confused by the term?Bara_no_Hime said:Sure! You're the A in QUILTBAG after all.TheDoctor455 said:.>
Can an asexual join the party here?
I was mistaken for gay once, and bullied for it. I try not to dwell on it.
... oh right, the thread title says LGBT. See, this is why I prefer QUILTBAG. It handles far more groups.
Thank you.
OT:
I'd love to see games depicting more LGBT characters. Love to see more races depicted in games... and not in stereotypical roles. Love to see more women in games... I'd just love to see more diversity in games, period.
But... given how media has handled, or completely failed to handle depicting asexuals... at all...
I'd suspect that by the time videogames (and most modern media in general, really) start depicting asexuals... just about everything else will have been covered by then... and gone over and explored more thoroughly by the time asexuals get even... a passing reference.
Seriously. Check out the tiny list of examples on the TV Tropes page for asexuals. Its like we don't exist as far as the media is concerned.
And... as I said... I was mistaken for gay once, years ago. I got a taste of the bigotry that the LGBT community is faced with all too often. Still, I'd say even that is better than the greeting most asexuals get: complete denial of our existence.
Let's put it this way... the bigotry, at the very least, is an acknowledgement of your existence. Asexuals like me though? To the 'mainstream'... we'd as well be ghosts from what I can see.
Sorry... didn't meant to go into a somewhat angsty, somewhat repetitive ramble there.
Anyway...
Well... I'm around. My Steam account is the same as my Escapist one. Mostly. If you're playing with someone calling themselves 'Doc' on L4D 1, Killing Floor, Civ 5, Endless Space... etc. that's probably me.
*Hugs sympathetically*
Plus the (obv less important) word nerd benefits! Like the fact that "QUILTBAG" could easily become "quiltbag" once it enters common usage, like SCUBA and LASER did. (If LGBT ever morphed, it'd be like GP -> Jeep, and the best we could hope for would be "legbutt." No thx.) Or the fact that it's two syllables instead of four. Or that the word "quiltbag" is cute.Bara_no_Hime said:Sure! You're the A in QUILTBAG after all.TheDoctor455 said:.>
Can an asexual join the party here?
I was mistaken for gay once, and bullied for it. I try not to dwell on it.
... oh right, the thread title says LGBT. See, this is why I prefer QUILTBAG. It handles far more groups.
Agreed. Threads about LGBT issues that get a majority of their replies from straight/cis posters (and anything about feminism) strike a very... "different" tone. I don't think the Escapist is more hostile or less diverse than most other sites that cater to the gaming community, but it certainly isn't a bastion of progressive thought either. I'm more than a little surprised that this thread has been so positive and conflict-free so far, to be honest.FrostyChick said:The Escapist can at times appear to have an above average LGBT presence. Though I think it may be a trick of perception, as sexuality and gender identity are only really going to be discussed in threads centred around the LGBT community or issues. Naturally these threads will have a larger number of LGBT posters, or at least seam to.
You voice my very thoughts exactly.bananafishtoday said:Agreed. Threads about LGBT issues that get a majority of their replies from straight/cis posters (and anything about feminism) strike a very... "different" tone. I don't think the Escapist is more hostile or less diverse than most other sites that cater to the gaming community, but it certainly isn't a bastion of progressive thought either. I'm more than a little surprised that this thread has been so positive and conflict-free so far, to be honest.
That... that is very convincing. I am almost swayed into changing acronym use. My only concern is that the word is too cute. I fear it might undermine serious conversations about LGBT+ rights, hate crimes and other similar topics out of sheer, jarring tonal whiplash.bananafishtoday said:Plus the (obv less important) word nerd benefits! Like the fact that "QUILTBAG" could easily become "quiltbag" once it enters common usage, like SCUBA and LASER did. (If LGBT ever morphed, it'd be like GP -> Jeep, and the best we could hope for would be "legbutt." No thx.) Or the fact that it's two syllables instead of four. Or that the word "quiltbag" is cute.
I actually only picked up the term this year. From a Webcomic of all things - entitled QUILTBAG. Sadly, the comic kinda crapped out, but it was good while it lasted.TheDoctor455 said:Thank you. Must be a very recent development. Had a very progressive sex ed class in college barely two years and half years ago. Didn't mention 'QUILTBAG' at all. Though, thankfully, it did mention asexuals... though that was before I had... admitted to myself that I was one.
When I'm speaking aloud, I only say it "quiltbag" rather than the words. Whereas LGBT I say "Ell, Gee, Bee, Tee" which takes twice as long as quiltbag, but says half as much.bananafishtoday said:Plus the (obv less important) word nerd benefits! Like the fact that "QUILTBAG" could easily become "quiltbag" once it enters common usage, like SCUBA and LASER did. (If LGBT ever morphed, it'd be like GP -> Jeep, and the best we could hope for would be "legbutt." No thx.) Or the fact that it's two syllables instead of four. Or that the word "quiltbag" is cute.
Not to rain on the fun of the name, but there are are fair number of people with intersex conditions who don't actually want to be included in the acronym. In part becuase intersex issues get lumped in with transgender issues, which is (at best) problematic, and in part because a lot of people with disorders of sexual development aren't actually intermediate between male and female, so it's not even an accurate term.Bara_no_Hime said:I actually only picked up the term this year. From a Webcomic of all things - entitled QUILTBAG. Sadly, the comic kinda crapped out, but it was good while it lasted.TheDoctor455 said:Thank you. Must be a very recent development. Had a very progressive sex ed class in college barely two years and half years ago. Didn't mention 'QUILTBAG' at all. Though, thankfully, it did mention asexuals... though that was before I had... admitted to myself that I was one.
But, while I may be new to the term, I'm an enthusiastic adopter. It is just so much easier to say - quiltbag - than LGBT.
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bananafishtoday said:Bara_no_Hime said:Honey, I'm an aspiring writer too. We all do that.TheDoctor455 said:snip
Also, sure thing!
One of my favourite sort of persons! *Blows a kiss*Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:I'll chime in just for the heck of it - Bisexual male who enjoys divulging in the realm of women's clothing. =^_^=
I consider myself an equal opportunity dresser and lover. ^_-
Yeah, I've heard some intersex arguments before (prior to me hearing hearing about QUILTBAG, actually, so a couple of years ago at least).Raikas said:Not to rain on the fun of the name, but there are are fair number of people with intersex conditions who don't actually want to be included in the acronym. In part becuase intersex issues get lumped in with transgender issues, which is (at best) problematic, and in part because a lot of people with disorders of sexual development aren't actually intermediate between male and female, so it's not even an accurate term.
Honey, all writers do that. Myself included.TheDoctor455 said:Thank you. Hmm... if you'd like to chat with me, feel free to PM me. Fair warning though: I'm an aspiring writer. Just about everything anyone ever says to me has the potential to turn up somewhere in my work.TheTransgenderedGamer said:Oh, honey...TheDoctor455 said:Thank you. Hmm... I think I can guess what some of 'QUILTBAG' stands for, would you mind clarifying it for me, and others who might be confused by the term?Bara_no_Hime said:Sure! You're the A in QUILTBAG after all.TheDoctor455 said:.>
Can an asexual join the party here?
I was mistaken for gay once, and bullied for it. I try not to dwell on it.
... oh right, the thread title says LGBT. See, this is why I prefer QUILTBAG. It handles far more groups.
Thank you.
OT:
I'd love to see games depicting more LGBT characters. Love to see more races depicted in games... and not in stereotypical roles. Love to see more women in games... I'd just love to see more diversity in games, period.
But... given how media has handled, or completely failed to handle depicting asexuals... at all...
I'd suspect that by the time videogames (and most modern media in general, really) start depicting asexuals... just about everything else will have been covered by then... and gone over and explored more thoroughly by the time asexuals get even... a passing reference.
Seriously. Check out the tiny list of examples on the TV Tropes page for asexuals. Its like we don't exist as far as the media is concerned.
And... as I said... I was mistaken for gay once, years ago. I got a taste of the bigotry that the LGBT community is faced with all too often. Still, I'd say even that is better than the greeting most asexuals get: complete denial of our existence.
Let's put it this way... the bigotry, at the very least, is an acknowledgement of your existence. Asexuals like me though? To the 'mainstream'... we'd as well be ghosts from what I can see.
Sorry... didn't meant to go into a somewhat angsty, somewhat repetitive ramble there.
Anyway...
Well... I'm around. My Steam account is the same as my Escapist one. Mostly. If you're playing with someone calling themselves 'Doc' on L4D 1, Killing Floor, Civ 5, Endless Space... etc. that's probably me.
*Hugs sympathetically*
Um, ignore that quoted reply, that was a bit of a mistake on my part!bananafishtoday said:Plus the (obv less important) word nerd benefits! Like the fact that "QUILTBAG" could easily become "quiltbag" once it enters common usage, like SCUBA and LASER did. (If LGBT ever morphed, it'd be like GP -> Jeep, and the best we could hope for would be "legbutt." No thx.) Or the fact that it's two syllables instead of four. Or that the word "quiltbag" is cute.Bara_no_Hime said:Sure! You're the A in QUILTBAG after all.TheDoctor455 said:.>
Can an asexual join the party here?
I was mistaken for gay once, and bullied for it. I try not to dwell on it.
... oh right, the thread title says LGBT. See, this is why I prefer QUILTBAG. It handles far more groups.
Agreed. Threads about LGBT issues that get a majority of their replies from straight/cis posters (and anything about feminism) strike a very... "different" tone. I don't think the Escapist is more hostile or less diverse than most other sites that cater to the gaming community, but it certainly isn't a bastion of progressive thought either. I'm more than a little surprised that this thread has been so positive and conflict-free so far, to be honest.FrostyChick said:The Escapist can at times appear to have an above average LGBT presence. Though I think it may be a trick of perception, as sexuality and gender identity are only really going to be discussed in threads centred around the LGBT community or issues. Naturally these threads will have a larger number of LGBT posters, or at least seam to.