Anyone else find this law stupid (Not about marijuana) ?

[zarguhl]

The fact is being under 18 makes you an lower class citizen. It's all well and good to say "Oh well, you're living in your parent's house, get a job blah blah" but the fact is under 16 you aren't even allowed to do that and even at 16/17 you'd get paid crap no matter how good you are at your job, because anyone under 18 is viewed as a lesser being.

If the average adult lived in a society where they were treated as if they were under 18, they'd probably go nuts and kill someone.

Basically the first 18 years of your life, especially with modern schooling, are designed to slowly degrade you so that by the time you're an adult you aren't capable of any real self determined action and have little of yourself left. The goal being to create a society of hollow, empty shells that can be controlled.

Edit:
And incidentally, the idea of giving a minor/child something, but then still treating it as the possession of the adult is one of the most harmful things parents do to their kids.

Imagine if as an adult someone gave you a present, then yelled at you every time you didn't take good care of it. You'd throw it at their head and tell them to go to hell.

And people wonder why kids throw tantrums.

 

[Plurralbles]

Do your chores. Holy shit, they're making you responsible!?

Parents need control over their children to raise htem properly.

 

[1066]

You might argue that it's a dick move, but the bottom line is that you are a dependant. If you can't support yourself, then those who do have access to your assets to aid in doing so. There are limits, granted.

 

[darkman80723]

Thats ALL your parents do?
Mine had simple rules;
forget to do chore(s)= punching
speak out of turn= slapping
talk back or be disrespectful= beating with yardstick
be around house when we are drunk and/or hyped up on drugs= very aggressive beating with stick
get caught with another man= beat so bad that you almost bleed to death internally and uncle sheriff "forgets" to go arrest the parents until they skip town
...seriously just remember to do chores, or just take it like a man when you screw up. Either which way life is going to screw you and take your hard earned money so its good training for later in life.

 

[RedDeadFred]

You are not an adult. Therefore you are less responsible (yes there are adults who are probably less responsible than you) and seriously, your parents by all your food and give you free housing. Why wouldn't you do your chores?
Main point: be more grateful to your parents and look forward to being an adult because it is quite awesome.

 

[Semitendon]

Annnd my confidence in the idea that most of the members of the escapist aren't whiny children drops a little bit more.

See, my folks charged me rent. Every month. I didn't enjoy it, but the truth is that it was the only way to get through to me.

The OP is complaining about having a small sum of money taken away IF HE FORGETS HIS CHORES.

The simple answer is, don't forget your chores! Bam, problem solved.

As to the OP's whining about the law which allows his parents to take his money, Really? I mean seriously?

Do people realize that parents are held legally responsible for the well-being, actions of, and general care of their children. Failure in virtually any area of child raising, however briefly, can result in serious penalties imposed on the parents.

In summation, I would support the OP's parents beating the stupid out of him, as well as taking all of his money, because anyone who's arrogant enough to think that parents who find a non-violent and inspired way to motivate their children to become better people, somehow, are doing it wrong.

Oh, and FYI, I am not a parent. I am an adult who has developed the small amount of wisdom required to see that parents who discipline, are usually parents who care.

 

[Joker7]

The fact is being under 18 makes you an lower class citizen. It's all well and good to say "Oh well, you're living in your parent's house blah blah" but the fact is under 16 you aren't even allowed to do that and even at 16/17 you'd get paid crap no matter how good you are at your job, because anyone under 18 is viewed as a lesser being.

If the average adult lived in a society where they were treated as if they were under 18, they'd probably go nuts and kill someone.

Basically the first 18 years of your life, especially with modern schooling, are designed to slowly degrade you so that by the time you're an adult you aren't capable of any real self determined action and have little of yourself left. The goal being to create a society of hollow, empty shells that can be controlled.

Edit:
And incidentally, the idea of giving a minor/child something, but then still treating it as the possetion of the adult is one of the most harmful things parents do to their kids.

Imagine if as an adult someone gave you a present, then yelled at you every time you didn't take good care of it. You'd throw it at their head and tell them to go to hell.

And people wonder why kids throw tantrums.

I agree kids should have more rights but up to a point. we can't give kids the right to go to war, vote, or own large sums of money that could effect the economy, because they lack the wisdom to understand the broader implications of such things. and sorry kiddies wisdom only comes with age

 

[icame]

Annnd my confidence in the idea that most of the members of the escapist aren't whiny children drops a little bit more.

See, my folks charged me rent. Every month. I didn't enjoy it, but the truth is that it was the only way to get through to me.

The OP is complaining about having a small sum of money taken away IF HE FORGETS HIS CHORES.

The simple answer is, don't forget your chores! Bam, problem solved.

As to the OP's whining about the law which allows his parents to take his money, Really? I mean seriously?

Do people realize that parents are held legally responsible for the well-being, actions of, and general care of their children. Failure in virtually any area of child raising, however briefly, can result in serious penalties imposed on the parents.

In summation, I would support the OP's parents beating the stupid out of him, as well as taking all of his money, because anyone who's arrogant enough to think that parents who find a non-violent and inspired way to motivate their children to become better people, somehow, are doing it wrong.

Oh, and FYI, I am not a parent. I am an adult who has developed the small amount of wisdom required to see that parents who discipline, are usually parents who care.

Advocating the beating of someone. Interesting. I would honestly rather get hit then have money taken away. Wounds heal. Money doesn't come back.

 

[kasperbbs]

I just figured that that was the plight of every minor in America.
Off topic, you want to know whats a REALLY stupid law?
Suicide is illegal because its a form of tax evasion. w.t.f.

So they gonna sue me if i kill myself?

OT: Just do the chores or talk to your parents about it. And why do you care about the laws? Do you want to call the police on them? If youre not willing to do either of these things just open a bank account and get your money transfered there.

 

[zarguhl]

It seems the main argument for treating minors like crap is along the lines of "At least we aren't beating them!"

I can see this going down well used for women, or other races. "I'm good to my woman, I only slap her if she's real bad, normally I just lock her in her room." Or maybe "I'm good to my slaves, just don' feed um if they play up, don' need ta beat 'em."

There is no actual difference between a minor/child/toddler/baby and an adult in terms of how they work/think. The difference is in physical size and experience. The biggest difference is that adults are usually degraded and have lost their hope and dreams through their childhood and then do the same to their own kids "Because that's just how life is." Only it isn't.

Kids repayment for parents bringing them up can come in the form of taking care of their parents in their old age, or taking responsibility for their own kids when they have them. And a normal child in fact wants to help their family, but the continual refusal of parents to allow that help is part of what causes kids to stop offering help. i.e. toddler tries to help mum with something and causes a spill, mum goes nuts and yells at toddler to get out, stop messing around, blah, blah... Then mum wonders why their child doesn't take any responsibility around the home. Who would? It's dangerous to try!

ALl I'm saying is that minors should be treated with the same dignity and respect that any sane adult would demand. And if you aren't willing to grant your child that - don't complain when they don't treat you as you'd like to be treated either.

 

[Grospoliner]

Simple solution. Withdraw all your money and place it into a bank account that they do not have their names attached to. Give specific instructions that you are the only one allowed to access the account. That will solve your problem as any attempt for them to withdraw the money from that account is a crime regardless of whether or not they are your parents.

Pretty much what I did when my mom took money out of my account.

I don't know how she managed that. You should move the money out of that bank to another. They obviously have no concern for security. I am assuming you're doing all your bank at the same bank as your parents. What you do is close out your account and get them to give you a check. Take your money to a new bank and open an account, have them set up online banking and statements. At the new bank your mother will have no legal ability to gain access to your account.

 

[zarguhl]

Another good example would be when a parent yells at, threatens, degrades, insults, whatever a child after they do something wrong. You see this all the time "God damnit, why are you so careless, why don't you pay attention to what you're doing Christ, what is wrong with you?!" Or when the kid says "When I grow up, I want to play the piano!" And the parent replies "Phht, you'll never be able to do that, last week you wanted to be a fireman, next week you'll want to be an astronaught, stop dreaming. Maybe if you do your studies you'll get somewhere, but you don't do you!?"

Imagine saying that stuff to an adult? What response would you get? Most adults would either punch you in the face or just laugh at what an asshole you are and leave.

But a child is stuck, trapped with those people and dependant on them. They can't punch them because they are too small. So instead they have to find other ways to punish their tormentors.

Spilling a drink, playing up, doing things they know will piss off their parents. They can't punch them, they can't just leave them, so they have to get back some other way...

And eventually when a parent has degraded their child enough, the child goes into apathy and doesn't even think to fight back anymore.

That state is called being a mature adult.

 

[zarguhl]

There is a HUGE diffrence between the way babies, toddlers, children and teens think.

Sure, but it all comes from what I stated. There is no fundamental different. A human is a human.

 

[Furbyz]

My parents threatened to take away $20 from me every time I forget to do a chore . After they threatened this, I wanted to see if they have the ability to do such a thing, so I did a bit of research (Thank you Google) and found out it is perfectly legal for them to do this. Please tell me I am not the only one who find this moronic?

I don't get an allowance and I don't get any money from my parents ever, not even during my birthday or Christmas. All the money I have is earned by working at a grocery store in my town. In my opinion, they should have no right to do anything with my hard earned money, but I wouldn't have a huge problem with a law that allowed them to put it into an account that you could access at 18 (But they had no ability to withdraw from)

Edit: Everyone seems to be talking about my story in question. Can we please discuss the law itself?

I believe quite a few child film stars would agree with you on the issue.

 

[Duskflamer]

There is a HUGE diffrence between the way babies, toddlers, children and teens think.

Sure, but it all comes from what I stated. There is no fundamental different. A human is a human.

Human biology would like to have a word with you, it's been scientifically proven that there are certain structural and chemical changes in the Brain throughout our childhood, settling off somewhere in the early twenties, and this affects the way we think and act.

 

[escapistraptor]

I hate to be all Lawful Neutral about this, but the law makes sense. If you didn't have the law backing parents up, a potentially nasty little kid could do whatever they want. Now not all parents are good parents, but I seriously question the ability of anyone under 18ish to take care of themselves.

 

[Not PvP Flagged]

You're a minor. You have no rights.

Sorry, but that's how it is.

It sucks but this (wo)man speaks the truth