Anyone else find this law stupid (Not about marijuana) ?
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What law are you governed by? I'm in the UK and it's certainly not illegal for a minor to have a bank account. Granted, there's nothing forcing a bank to let you open one either, and they can't offer you loans or anything.
Might I suggest human rights/constitutional challenges?
Might I suggest human rights/constitutional challenges?
Open Up a Savings account and put your money there. Don't think you need parents permission to open it. Best thing i ever did, thanks to that i have 20k and more..
The law is a reasonable law; remember that it covers the money earned by(for example) child actors as well. Allowing the parents to have full discretion over it is a reasonable way to try to ensure the money be used responsibly. However, the nature of law insists that the changeover point be well-defined, and wherever that point is there will be some people on either side of it for whom the other side would be better.
On the topic of your particular situation: when you forget to do a chore, do your parents do it? If so, it may feel a little more reasonable to consider the $20 a charge for that service. You might even be able to bargain them down a bit by paying in advance.
On the topic of your particular situation: when you forget to do a chore, do your parents do it? If so, it may feel a little more reasonable to consider the $20 a charge for that service. You might even be able to bargain them down a bit by paying in advance.
Its not that I don't want to do chores. Its that I am horribly forgetful, and many times them will tell me they want to me to do something before school, and I have forgotten about it after. The reason I looked it up is because I could not believe that a parent has the right to take away every cent someone has earned, and no, I would not sue my parents over taking my Ps3 away.Johnnyallstar said:
Also, can we start to discuss the law itself...it seems everyone is transfixed upon my own personal situation pertaining to it.
i'm moving out, but not because my parents take my money, but because my mom is crazy. Couldn't you live witth a friend and keep your money in cash?
I don't have any friends anywhere near close enough for something like that. My situation at home isn't bad enough to warrant that either. I despise my mother, but my father is a great person, As-is my sister, so I wouldn't want to hurt my relationship with them by doing such a thing.classygangster said:
Hang on, what? They don't give you allowance or any other kind of income, you have your own job making your own money, but they think they can just take your money as punishment for not doing the chores?
Maybe I'm missing something here- do you have a track record of conveniently "forgetting" to do perfectly reasonable things you're asked to do which is driving your parents to distraction? Or do they merely thnk that you have to do whatever you're told and if you don't do it RIGHT NOW you deserve a punishment? See, if it's the former I can kind of see where they're coming from- it can massively frustrating to see the child you've raised just being a lazy leech, using their room and board and getting his education off their dollar but refusing to give anything back. But if it's the latter and they're seriously just stealing from you whenever something slips your mind, then quite honestly fuck that.
Think very carefully about WHY your parents are doing this and whether they MAY have a point. If you really think they're not being fair, and they refuse to see it your way, then go on strike. Withdraw ALL the money left in your account as cash and hide it somewhere in your room. Quit your job so you don't make any more. Refuse to do ANY chores until your parents start being reasonable. Stand firm even if they come up with new punishments- if they'd sooner punish you than negotiate with you when you disagree this strongly, they're pretty lousy parents. They can't just take your stuff and you can't just let them.
And by the way, the people who say "they raised him and paid for him, he owes them", that's not how it works. It's not like they were doing him a favour, parents have an OBLIGATION to care and provide for their children. A 16-year old does NOT have to pay "rent". Children have a reasonable duty to respect their parents for their care and support and ideally to repay it in kind when they become adults and their parents are old and retired, but that's not the same as "they paid for you, therefore they effectively own you".
Maybe I'm missing something here- do you have a track record of conveniently "forgetting" to do perfectly reasonable things you're asked to do which is driving your parents to distraction? Or do they merely thnk that you have to do whatever you're told and if you don't do it RIGHT NOW you deserve a punishment? See, if it's the former I can kind of see where they're coming from- it can massively frustrating to see the child you've raised just being a lazy leech, using their room and board and getting his education off their dollar but refusing to give anything back. But if it's the latter and they're seriously just stealing from you whenever something slips your mind, then quite honestly fuck that.
Think very carefully about WHY your parents are doing this and whether they MAY have a point. If you really think they're not being fair, and they refuse to see it your way, then go on strike. Withdraw ALL the money left in your account as cash and hide it somewhere in your room. Quit your job so you don't make any more. Refuse to do ANY chores until your parents start being reasonable. Stand firm even if they come up with new punishments- if they'd sooner punish you than negotiate with you when you disagree this strongly, they're pretty lousy parents. They can't just take your stuff and you can't just let them.
And by the way, the people who say "they raised him and paid for him, he owes them", that's not how it works. It's not like they were doing him a favour, parents have an OBLIGATION to care and provide for their children. A 16-year old does NOT have to pay "rent". Children have a reasonable duty to respect their parents for their care and support and ideally to repay it in kind when they become adults and their parents are old and retired, but that's not the same as "they paid for you, therefore they effectively own you".
So let me get this straight. You have a job. You don't pay even a nominal room and board to your parents, and you're bitching because they expect you to do a few chores, and have put a financial incentive on it, presumably because asking nicely didn't persuade your idle behind to do them. Am I close?icame said:
I've seen estimates that put the cost of raising and educating a child at a couple of hundred thousand dollars. Welcome to the real world, kid.
Here's an idea, move out so you don't have to do chores anymore. But $20 does seem rediculous. Don't they know excessive fines are unconstitutional?
ROFL. Move out to avoid chores? You realise you're doing ALL your own chores when you move out, don't you? I can guarantee a live-in maid will cost you a bit more than $20.BlackWidower said:
Kids these days...
Your a minor they own you.
That is how it should be. If you pay them back, with interest for everything they have given you(food, shelter, closes, ect.) then you can gripe about them taking your money.
Also if you are worried that they will take your money just hide it.
That is how it should be. If you pay them back, with interest for everything they have given you(food, shelter, closes, ect.) then you can gripe about them taking your money.
Also if you are worried that they will take your money just hide it.
Then you should thank your parents for giving you yet another opportunity to work on your memory. I guess they'll now just keep raising the price until you figure out the lesson they're trying to teach you here before you move out on you own and won't have Mum and Dad to remind you to do shit.icame said:
I suggest post-it notes stuck to the monitor. Less drastic than face tattooing, but quite effective I've found, speaking as one who tends to forget stuff as well.
This thread should have been over the second you mentioned you were under 18.
You're a minor. Barring abusive acts, they can pretty much do what they want.
It's just to drive you to do your part around the house. Just do your chores and you won't lose money. Pretty simple.
You're a minor. Barring abusive acts, they can pretty much do what they want.
It's just to drive you to do your part around the house. Just do your chores and you won't lose money. Pretty simple.