Anyone feel that furry fandom seems to be snobbed at many multifandom conventions?

[Eclipse Dragon]

Call me shameless, but if I were an artist at a con, I wouldn't snubb furries, I would cater to them. There are few single groups of people more willing to spend money and if other artists won't do it because of the (unwarranted) negative connotations, all the more money for me.

I wouldn't even need to draw the x-rated stuff, furries are a very art loving community, the PG stuff would sell just fine.

Spoiler: Evidently, Disney already knows this.

 

[Piecewise]

Perhaps because the public face of furries tends to either be people with mental problems who think they're actually a 6 foot racoon trapped in a human body or weirdos who sexualize cartoon animals?

Or maybe it's because it's associated with stuff like this?

Mostly I just dislike furries because they have no freaking imagination. Millions of species out there and 80% of furries are foxes, wolves, and cats. Come on.

 

[MHR]

'Cuz furries.

The only reason they aren't on the full shitlist in shitlord circles is 'cuz bronies now. Even lots of furries hate bronies.

Look, I know furries. I've got my ear to the ground on a huge nest of them as we speak. They're weird. It's not much more complicated than that. And to be fair, some of them are just a murrsuit away from a fur orgy.

It's very easy to see why some vendors wouldn't have a focus on them, as they are scarcely in the mainstream of nerd culture.

 

[RJ 17]

I thought the term "furry" didn't refer to a fandom, but rather a sexual preference/fetish. Hence, at any con, porno rules like "nobody under 18" would need to be instated.

No, it's anyone who likes anthropomorphized animals. Which include, but is not limited to, those who are into the sexy times.

I believe furry "sexy times" are called "yiffing" :3

But yeah, furries get their own cons and there's plenty of them so I don't see it as a huge issue if they're getting "snubbed" at other conventions that aren't specifically furry related. It'd be like someone dressed up as Spoc showing up to a Star Wars convention: they're not who the con is being catered towards.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Really? I never noticed a distinct lack of furries at what few cons I've been to. Hell, there's usually a furry night or gathering or whatever its called at most of the Cons here is Missouri.

As far as comics, I don't read any so I never noticed a lack of furry.

And to be fair, there certainly are loads of furry centered cons.

Well I have a thing for Werewolf girls, does that make me a Furry?

Also sorry Werewolf fans try as you might Werewolves are just not as scary as Vampires, Shadow of the Vampire and Coppola's Dracula proved me otherwise.

 

[Axelthefox]

I thought the term "furry" didn't refer to a fandom, but rather a sexual preference/fetish. Hence, at any con, porno rules like "nobody under 18" would need to be instated.

It does, but a lot of furries like to pretend otherwise because they're tired of being marginalized.

Is that similar to how people who like anime are actually in it for the hentai and loli's?

That's a pretty sweet non-sequitur.

This is pure speculation on my part, but could it be the very open/direct sexual connotation to furries compared to other fandoms? I mean, the only context I've ever heard the word "furry" used, is to describe people who derive sexual desire/gratification from having sex with people dressed in animal costumes. Now that might not be the technically accurate description of them, but that's definitely the "person on the street" usage of the word. So I would guess, that people would see them as basically a cluster of people who are one costume away from an orgy, in the middle of their otherwise less sexualized convention? *shrugs* just a theory.

There is also this: I don't care to learn the fine distinctions of the subculture of people who dress up in fursuits. Like Bronies, it's a combination of bad press, and total lack of interest from other people to correct any misapprehensions. I think, "Stay away, you creepy guys" is a pretty middle-of-the-road response to be honest.

I think it's this. And there is some good press recently in stuff like the huffington post,buzzfeed,minnesota tribune where furs say that they aren't a fetish,but it isn't enough good press imo. I remember when i was growing up i was interested in Dungeons and dragons,note this was about the 80's and back then people were like,oh you play that evil game? Or don't let him around dungeons and dragons players,they worship the devil and such. But know D&D seems accepted. I think in the future probably furry will be accepted hopefully.

I doubt it. D&D had to fight against stereotypes that were not true. D&D as it happens, didn't have anything to do with devil worship, so they could honestly point that out over time. The perception that furries are in fact, adults who dress up in animal mascot suits, is accurate. You could claim that not all furries fuck in their suits, but you'll find that most people were wildly turned off the moment you said, "Yes, I wear a fur suit."

Besides, people still stigmatize D&D and the people who play it, they just don't do so in the context of right-wing christian hysteria. Now it's just, "Harmless nerds", or maybe "My kind of people" depending on your perspective.

tl;dr: If D&D was played in mascot costumes, it would still be something most people hid in their 'closet'.

Isn't the public face of the fandom this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Conway ,Samuel Conway,also know as Uncle Kage and i notice much media has been trying to make the fandom look nice for once.

http://www.startribune.com/call-of-the-wild-local-furries-say-they-are-misunderstood/306002911/#1

http://www.highlevelgames.ca/blog/5-common-misconceptions-people-have-about-furries

http://www.buzzfeed.com/candacelowry/revealing-misconceptions-about-the-furry-fandom#.lvGRwMdRW

Hopefully with the good press furry will shed it's bad rep.

 

[Axelthefox]

'Cuz furries.

The only reason they aren't on the full shitlist in shitlord circles is 'cuz bronies now. Even lots of furries hate bronies.

Look, I know furries. I've got my ear to the ground on a huge nest of them as we speak. They're weird. It's not much more complicated than that. And to be fair, some of them are just a murrsuit away from a fur orgy.

It's very easy to see why some vendors wouldn't have a focus on them, as they are scarcely in the mainstream of nerd culture.

Seriously, they are the part of nerd culture that 99% of nerd culture wishes didn't exist. Grown men and women fucking in costumes, it's not hurting anyone, but it is pathetic.

Geeze, do you believe everything from CSI. Furs are not like that at all. Furs are really cool people and are not like that at all. That CSI episode is a work of fiction.

 

[Reed Spacer]

Given as my only exposure to the fandom thus far was two guys getting kicked out of the local theatre for masturbating while watching Zootopia (and wouldn't it have been fun if my nine-year old niece had seen that) I'm hard-pressed to say anything nice.

 

[Axelthefox]

Given as my only exposure to the fandom thus far was two guys getting kicked out of the local theatre for masturbating while watching Zootopia (and wouldn't it have been fun if my nine-year old niece had seen that) I'm hard-pressed to say anything nice.

You shouldn't let a bad apple ruin things. Every fandom has people who are good and people who are bad,like star wars has fans who are good,it also has some bad apples as well. Like there was a star wars fan who got arrested over threatening someone over spoilers,but one bad apple shouldn't ruin a fandom.

 

[FirstNameLastName]

Given as my only exposure to the fandom thus far was two guys getting kicked out of the local theatre for masturbating while watching Zootopia (and wouldn't it have been fun if my nine-year old niece had seen that) I'm hard-pressed to say anything nice.

Fucking hilarious. I really don't understand people who get some kind of sexual thrill out of wanking in public, and I'm rather glad I don't need to be risking jail to get off.

I'll repeat again; the absolute worst thing about the furry fandom is having to share it with other furries.

 

[Combustion Kevin]

They seem pretty accepted in the Netherlands, whenever a news outlet does a story on them they talk to the people in the suits or buying the products, not the most outraged soccer moms~
Overall, people respond pretty positively to the cuddly bunch, I'm actually glad to see them around at whatever convention I go to.

Oh snip!

If I were to show you this: http://www.westerndeep.net/comic/comingsoon/
Would you associate furries more with that than the horror show you posted or not?
Weird kinks and fetishes are universal, you'll find them pretty much everywhere, especially in art related circles, furries aren't unique in that sense.

As for the species diversity, people like what gets an emotional response out of them, foxes, cats and canines are very expressive creatures and are picked more often as such, people relate more.
It's not a novelty contest.

 

[Axelthefox]

They seem pretty accepted in the Netherlands, whenever a news outlet does a story on them they talk to the people in the suits or buying the products, not the most outraged soccer moms~
Overall, people respond pretty positively to the cuddly bunch, I'm actually glad to see them around at whatever convention I go to.

Oh snip!

If I were to show you this: http://www.westerndeep.net/comic/comingsoon/
Would you associate furries more with that than the horror show you posted or not?
Weird kinks and fetishes are universal, you'll find them pretty much everywhere, especially in art related circles, furries aren't unique in that sense.

As for the species diversity, people like what gets an emotional response out of them, foxes, cats and canines are very expressive creatures and are picked more often as such, people relate more.
It's not a novelty contest.

This. What about the dark side of Anime,i know Star trek also has slash fiction,i have heard of some people who had a crush on Princess Leia,i have heard about a tomb raider joke about people trying to see the character of the game naked. Fetishes and kinks are pretty much universal. At a panel one time someone mentioned wanting to do the hentai part of anime,yet it's us furries who are judged.

As for that link,i wonder if you have heard of housepets comic? http://www.housepetscomic.com/

 

[CrazyGirl17]

I just assume it has to do with there being specific cons for furries, not that they often go to the ones for multiple fandoms and less to do with them being outright snubbed. Though people's perceptions of the subculture hasn't been helped by sensationalist media, nor the assholes who have to ruin it for the rest of us.

...Yes, I'm bitter. What of it?

 

[minkus_draconus]

This. What about the dark side of Anime,i know Star trek also has slash fiction,i have heard of some people who had a crush on Princess Leia,i have heard about a tomb raider joke about people trying to see the character of the game naked. Fetishes and kinks are pretty much universal. At a panel one time someone mentioned wanting to do the hentai part of anime,yet it's us furries who are judged.

As for that link,i wonder if you have heard of housepets comic? http://www.housepetscomic.com/

As I recall from back in the day one of the first texture patches for the original Tomb Raider was the Nude Raider patch.

 

[Axelthefox]

'Cuz furries.

The only reason they aren't on the full shitlist in shitlord circles is 'cuz bronies now. Even lots of furries hate bronies.

Look, I know furries. I've got my ear to the ground on a huge nest of them as we speak. They're weird. It's not much more complicated than that. And to be fair, some of them are just a murrsuit away from a fur orgy.

It's very easy to see why some vendors wouldn't have a focus on them, as they are scarcely in the mainstream of nerd culture.

Seriously, they are the part of nerd culture that 99% of nerd culture wishes didn't exist. Grown men and women fucking in costumes, it's not hurting anyone, but it is pathetic.

Geeze, do you believe everything from CSI. Furs are not like that at all. Furs are really cool people and are not like that at all. That CSI episode is a work of fiction.

How condescending can you be? I don't form my opinion from a show I never watched, I form it from my interactions with furries. I'm yet to meet a furry that isn't a pain to be around. At best, they're obsessed, and "Furry" is the sum total of their life and identity. It's like talking to someone who found Jesus or a Brony who "learned to love" through MLP:FIM.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/04/nation-wide-radio-station-hack-airs-hours-of-vulgar-furry-sex-ramblings/

Not all furries.

http://comicsalliance.com/san-diego-comic-con-sexual-harassment-policy-david-glanzer-emerald-city-comicon/

http://www.strangelikethat.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-convention-going-butt-photographers/

Other fandoms have bad apples,judging every furry for the actions of a few is like judging all muslims because of a few being extremists or judging all Christians as being judgemental because of the actions of a few.