Anyone feel that furry fandom seems to be snobbed at many multifandom conventions?
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WatSweetShark said:
your post didn't make any sense.
Yup. Like i have heard of some weeaboos who refer to a anime character as their waifu,have a pillow of said character and have dinner with their waifu,and really get into the anime thing like speaking really bad pronounced Japanese.Dragonbums said:
Of course, because it's not in society as much yet. Every new thing/fandom/invention has to grow up with a generation to chill. Just play the waiting game, the media and internet mob will move on to the next thing and you will be as normal in internet/con society as guys with waifus and fanfic writers.
Need an example? Dnd was considered satanic and immoral, and old ladies I work with at -a retail store- always complain that their kid played it. Now DnD is normal and everyone has at least seen it played or played some form of it. Star Trek was seen as super wierd and fans were regarded with the same attitude as the Furry Subculture gets today. Video Games were... actually we are right back to square one on that front.
Anyway have hope friend, and know that every passing day means a little less resentment or anger towards it. If you do want a convention that endorses furries, almost all MLP cons are 40-50% Furry based. I met a ton of fur-suiters there and we stay in touch.
I think that they might be converting me though. I don't think it will work though. These Dakotaraptor sketches are just for.. fun. Yeah just for...
Need an example? Dnd was considered satanic and immoral, and old ladies I work with at -a retail store- always complain that their kid played it. Now DnD is normal and everyone has at least seen it played or played some form of it. Star Trek was seen as super wierd and fans were regarded with the same attitude as the Furry Subculture gets today. Video Games were... actually we are right back to square one on that front.
Anyway have hope friend, and know that every passing day means a little less resentment or anger towards it. If you do want a convention that endorses furries, almost all MLP cons are 40-50% Furry based. I met a ton of fur-suiters there and we stay in touch.
I think that they might be converting me though. I don't think it will work though. These Dakotaraptor sketches are just for.. fun. Yeah just for...
As a gamer, I think I can relate. At this point in life I've concluded that it's pretty much impossible to have a fandom that's devoid of members who make everyone else look bad. And you can sure as heck count on everyone else to judge you based on those people.FirstNameLastName said:
Then again, as a silver lining, it's kind of fun shattering everyone's expectations by being someone who completely defies the stereotype. As a short-haired, mild-mannered, polo shirt-wearing metalhead, I get plenty of chances to do that. The looks on their faces when I tell them I like metal is priceless.
Furry is not a fetish.Abyssal Dancer said:
You have it all wrong.
This guy goes into how the media has bad mouthed the fandom and how it's just a fandom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5HyMH7YXFM
We get this question constantly -- so constantly, in fact, that we have an extensive FAQ page devoted to it. You'll find absolutely everything that has ever, or will ever need to be said on the topic, here:
http://www.anthrocon.org/node/25587/age-questions-how-talk-parents-general-other-things
Here's a quick summary of the highlights:
1) Furry Fandom is a hobby. It does not define you, no matter how "into" it you are. It remains nothing more than something you like to do to pass the time.
2) There is no more (or less) material geared toward mature audiences than one will find in any other fandom. Our convention, in fact, has a far stricter standard of conduct than most comic book or science fiction conventions. Our fandom, though, as a relative newcomer, has been singled out for biased and sensationalistic coverage by the entertainment media and by individuals who have never gotten to know any of us or even attended our conventions.
3) Furry Fandom is as much a community as anything else. It is a gathering of the most creative, imaginative people you could ever hope to meet. It is inclusive where many others are exclusive, and supportive where many others are derisive. It is something to be proud of, not something to be "confessed." If you feel that you must "out" yourself to your family for being a Furry, then you have entirely the wrong idea of what our fandom is all about.
4) Not everyone wears a "fursuit" (costume); in fact, the majority of our attendees do not. If you want a fursuit, however, you should wait until you are finished growing before spending the money. And if people sneer at you for spending so much money on a costume, ask them why they sunk $5,000 into a single Superbowl ticket.
http://www.anthrocon.org/node/25608/how-do-i-explain-furry-fandom-my-parents
Funnily enough I find your comparison to be far more stunningly dishonest. Trying to pass the number of people that "enjoy" anime off as anywhere close to 2 or 3 billion is laughable at best. At the high end that would mean about the same number of people enjoy anime as number of people that have Internet access which is about 3.2 billion. That would make anime more popular than soccer/football, the most watched sport in the world.Abyssal Dancer said:
The only way to come up with a number like that would be lumping in everyone who's even seen an anime as well as anyone that liked An anime when they were kids or teenagers ten years ago and haven't seen any since graduating high school. That's as dishonest as trying to pass everyone who liked the Lion King or enjoys Werewolf stories off as a furry.
I haven't seen anyone in this thread talking about anime as a whole, when people talk about anime fans they aren't talking about just some guy that liked cowboy bebop in college or the people that go to movies to watch Miyazaki films, they are referring to the dedicated internet fan base, the people that go to cons, the otakus, that is the comparison to furries, not literally everyone on the planet who's ever seen an anime at any point in time. Fan in the context of conversations like this is short for fanatic, not casual enjoyment, fanaticism, it is patently dishonest to take the concept of "anime fan" and try to apply that to literally more than one out of every three human beings on the planet, which is about what three billion people is.
It makes it hard to take your assertions seriously when you make such ridiculous statements, I've been on the internet since the early 90's and have encountered furries for about the same length of time, while it is a weird fandom, you'll forgive me if I don't take your proclamations of "most" fans making it a sexual fetish seriously. In my 20 or so years of experience for most fans it's an aesthetic thing, they enjoy the concept, art style, and fandom, there's about as much sexualization as the dedicated anime fanatics, it's there, it's weird, but it's not why most people are there.
Honestly I still can't wrap my head around where the fuck you got 2 to 3 billion people from, even pulling numbers from your ass shouldn't have given you a number that high, 3 billion would be a significant chunk of all Internet and television owners on the face of the planet. I severely doubt over half the people on the planet that own a TV or have Internet would qualify as anime fans. By that ridiculous metric the furry fandom would actually be larger as you could basically lump in anyone that ever enjoyed bugs bunny or a Disney cartoon into the label. You're using the most exclusive definition of what a furry is and a ridiculously broad definition for what an anime fan is.
Baron Cimetiere said:
If the only thing you can do is respond with is 'get better English" than perhaps you shouldn't participate in this thread anymore and save it to users who actually care about the topic at hand.
If you think your post was misconstrued feel free to clarify. But I'm sure you knew damn well what I said.
And the people who find drawings fox girls or fox boys attractive. I think 2D complex could help explain that.
He isn't doing any great favours, to be frank. The first picture he chooses to illustrate Furrydom is a topless fox-man, leaning against a wall in front of a sunset as if he's on a boyband album cover or a postcard from David Brent.axelthefox said:
Most cons are businesses, or at least, vast networking opportunities. No one wants to network or try to do business, or even walk around and have some fun, with someone in a cumstained arctic fox costume. Less hyperbolically, furries should look for acceptance in the fetish community, not the comics community. I don't think BDSM enthusiasts would be any more welcome in leathers and nipple clamps to be honest.
It's your fetish, and your business, but come the hell on already and stop with this "fandom" thing. I have a friend who went furry, and I met a loooot of furries through him. They were absolutely, each and every one of them, into it sexually. A lot of the "Art" ended up being "Fox chicks with giant tits making jokes that would make a 5 year old cringe"
It's your fetish, and your business, but come the hell on already and stop with this "fandom" thing. I have a friend who went furry, and I met a loooot of furries through him. They were absolutely, each and every one of them, into it sexually. A lot of the "Art" ended up being "Fox chicks with giant tits making jokes that would make a 5 year old cringe"
Well i don't know how to explain to my parents that i find furry dudes and furry girls attractive,so i have to say stuff like that.Lacedaemonius said: