Anyone outside the US that bothered about Captain America?
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Hey, I'm Irish and I think it looks great. I'm not that bothered about the whole patriotism thing, to be honest it's probably less patriotic than a lot of war films like Saving Private Ryan. It's rather counteracted by the campiness of it. It's hardly serious enough to be considered nationalistic.
Also, for those who say he's a crazy nationalist, there's a point when he FOUGHT the US government. During the Civil War Event, when Iron Man sided with the USA to pass a law Cap morally disagreed with, he went underground and started a rebellion, fighting US troops and ex-allies alike.
I am an American.
I don't think the comic book character Captain America should be offensive to anyone.
Modern superhero comic books originated in the United States, and many took place during a time with high amounts of patriotism. Captain America is simply a product of that time.
Additionally, as a character, he is not over-the-top pro-American, but rather a figurehead unsure about his place in a world which no longer appeals to the values he was created to symbolize.
Other comic book characters were created with origins and close ties to nationality, and no one really complains. Numerous English heros, a few Japanese, hell even Wolverine is Canadian.
Honestly, anyone complaining about Captain America doesn't care about the character, culture, or people in America, but rather, dislikes some of the politcal actions of a few of America's politicians, and uses that as an excuse to whine about an entire country.
I don't think the comic book character Captain America should be offensive to anyone.
Modern superhero comic books originated in the United States, and many took place during a time with high amounts of patriotism. Captain America is simply a product of that time.
Additionally, as a character, he is not over-the-top pro-American, but rather a figurehead unsure about his place in a world which no longer appeals to the values he was created to symbolize.
Other comic book characters were created with origins and close ties to nationality, and no one really complains. Numerous English heros, a few Japanese, hell even Wolverine is Canadian.
Honestly, anyone complaining about Captain America doesn't care about the character, culture, or people in America, but rather, dislikes some of the politcal actions of a few of America's politicians, and uses that as an excuse to whine about an entire country.
There probably will be a bit of, "Woo yeah! America, FUCK YEAH! We won the war single handed!" but I don't think it'll be every five minutes and it'll be bearable. I'll be seeing it, I usually see all comic book movies in the cinema, or at some point on DVD.
Im from Canada and I nothing against the concept of Captain America or what he represents. I think the Hulk as a concept is far more tacky then any incarnation of capt America. Especially once you do a little research and realize that Blind flag waving patriotism was never really his thing. That's not to say i Like Captain though; I find his personality to be quite obnoxious, and this is highlighted by the fact that he has the most generic and annoying voice of any super hero in the universe.
On that note:ShakyFt Slasher said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_(comics)
Among others...
OT: I really couldn't care less about the Captain America movie. Never read any comics about him, only seen occasional viewings of him while watching cartoons of other characters (Avengers, etc)... all in all, things could be worse... though I agree that movies always seem to scream the message "And then America came in and kicked everyone's ass!!! America... F*ck yea!"
...no offense to those who live in America. I love the place, but movies really mess things up when it comes to the idea of patriotism...
Have that for england. Union Jack, the British superhero symbol of all things British. Damn good hero too.ShakyFt Slasher said:
Anyhow, Captain America is supposed to be the "righteous symbol" of the American ideal... from the 40's and 50's. Captain A. isn't exactly the perfect representation of the current United States. As an United States citizen, I look at him more as a cool noir type superhero whose over the top AMerican Patriot attitude is just ridiculous enough that he is to this day my favorite superhero because its the perfect balance of total badass, ridiculousness, and symbolism.
I pray, nay beg, that the movie is good. oh please lord
You don't have to be from another country to not care about Cap. The main appeal for the movie is for people who like Marvel Comics, whether their Captain America's or Marvel in general.
That said, I personally like Captain America. He's one of my top three favorite super heroes along side Iron Man and Thor.
Plus his shield is made out of virbraium, and that's just a fun word.
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That said, I personally like Captain America. He's one of my top three favorite super heroes along side Iron Man and Thor.
Plus his shield is made out of virbraium, and that's just a fun word.
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What sucks is that they executed him in the last comic, via sniper no less. Talk about a weak way to end it.
I'm Irish and while I have never loved the character I might see his flick. Even if he was a all about the US I would see it, I don't really have a problem with national;ism. If he was Captain Iran I wouldn't care, as long as the film was good. Alexander Nevishky (Misspelled that) was blatent propoganda but good fun.
I'm interested in a superhero story set during WWII, but the character himself has always seemed incredibly goofy to me.
As an example, I was watching the trailer in a cinema (in Ireland) and the people behind me, who didn't realise what the trailer was for but who knew vaguely who Captain America was, were totally into it up until you actually see him in the costume, at which point they all burst out laughing.
The film-makers did an admirable job translating the costume to live action- much better than I would have thought possible, in fact- but there's no getting around the fact that that outfit looks incredibly dumb.
As an example, I was watching the trailer in a cinema (in Ireland) and the people behind me, who didn't realise what the trailer was for but who knew vaguely who Captain America was, were totally into it up until you actually see him in the costume, at which point they all burst out laughing.
The film-makers did an admirable job translating the costume to live action- much better than I would have thought possible, in fact- but there's no getting around the fact that that outfit looks incredibly dumb.
I'm American and I don't really care about Captain America. Maybe it's because I don't like American superheroes. Maybe it's because I didn't read the comics. Maybe it's because I don't like America in general.
But I think it's really because we're all waiting for that Union Jack movie.
But I think it's really because we're all waiting for that Union Jack movie.
I'm Canadian and I rather like Captain America... not because he represents America but because of his character and strength, Sure he fights to protect America but he also fights to protect anyone from anywhere not just America.
If he knew he could help any other place I am sure he would do his best to do that.
If he knew he could help any other place I am sure he would do his best to do that.
I'm Australian, I just care because most of the Marvel movies are brilliant, especially the latest ones promoting The Avengers. And so far, Captain America is looking pretty good as well. So I'll be going to see it.
I don't like it, like he's still one of the avengers so i'm still gonna see it but from the trailers it just looks absolutely terrible, not just because of how americanised it is I also don't like how it seems to be about some weak guy saving everyone but the way they make him able to save everyone is by making him not weak anymore, so the moral of the story is that weak people can't do anything
I'm gonna have to agree with a lot of people who've posted already.
I'm English, and I fukkin love Captain America. Don't get me wrong, he's no Batman or Spiderman, but he's a damn cool superhero. I feel like most people hating on Cap is more hating on mindless nationalism, which is so far from what he stands for. He's a socially conscious, politically minded guy with super strength who isn't afraid to act for what he believes to be right. He puts justice and morality first rather than blindly following whatever the government says *cough*iron-man*cough*.
TL/DR: Captain America is an intelligent free thinking badass, and as an Englishman I think he's fukkin boss.
I'm English, and I fukkin love Captain America. Don't get me wrong, he's no Batman or Spiderman, but he's a damn cool superhero. I feel like most people hating on Cap is more hating on mindless nationalism, which is so far from what he stands for. He's a socially conscious, politically minded guy with super strength who isn't afraid to act for what he believes to be right. He puts justice and morality first rather than blindly following whatever the government says *cough*iron-man*cough*.
TL/DR: Captain America is an intelligent free thinking badass, and as an Englishman I think he's fukkin boss.