Any word preceded by a hash symbol (#) is a tag (hashtag). Repeated uses of the tag can appear on searches and denote trends that appear.Wolfram01 said:
They can also be used ironically, as in #freedomdoesntmeanyoucanbeadick.
Apple Brainwashes Gay Cure App from iTunes
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They can also be used ironically, as in #freedomdoesntmeanyoucanbeadick.
And common sense wins again!
Seriously, what is this, the 1800s? Homosexuality isn't a medical condition, it's a life choice. If a church can't accept that, then what, I repeat, WHAT are they doing with modern technology? They should be discussing how bullshit Darwin's theory while wearing tophats and corsets under candlelight!
...sorry, not a very good metaphor, but still. Come on.
Seriously, what is this, the 1800s? Homosexuality isn't a medical condition, it's a life choice. If a church can't accept that, then what, I repeat, WHAT are they doing with modern technology? They should be discussing how bullshit Darwin's theory while wearing tophats and corsets under candlelight!
...sorry, not a very good metaphor, but still. Come on.
Because it would be akin to me "debating" with someone that the surface of the sun is warmer than my living room. The opposition's viewpoint doesn't matter because it is factually incorrect. There are no pros and cons to be discussed, there are no issues to be weighed. We're not discussing foreign policy here, one side is just suffering from a delusion.CM156 said:
Perhaps you've just poorly worded this, but people do not choose to be gay in the way this reads.
"One Side is suffering from a delusion"? If someone stated that the surface of the sun was not warmer than your living room, you should have no problem presenting evidence counter to them. That is my ultimate point in all this. Why is it that anyone can decide that an issue is not up for debate?Saikonate said:
Apple has the right to choose to sell what products it want. It is under no obligation to sell products it does not want to sell. The App Store is not a public place. It is owned by a private entity.
Seems like people still haven't realised that free speech cuts both ways. If there are pro-gay apps then it's perfectly acceptable for their to be anti-gay apps (at least it should be).
In the same way that it shold be perfectly acceptable for their to be pro-religion apps AS WELL as anti-religion apps.
-sigh- People always advocate the shit out of free speech, up until the point someone says something they don't like...
In the same way that it shold be perfectly acceptable for their to be pro-religion apps AS WELL as anti-religion apps.
-sigh- People always advocate the shit out of free speech, up until the point someone says something they don't like...
I immediately drew a connection to the School Shooting mod being taken off of ModDB. I wonder how many people flipped their opinions like a pancake when they saw this.
I think perhaps you're just using the word "debate" in a way different than I'm used to. You seem to think that any time someone is wrong about anything, that issue is "up for debate". To me, only issues where both sides have a legitimate argument can be debated. I wouldn't call correcting someone's belief that the sun is not hot a "debate" - I don't think many people other than you would.CM156 said:
You've said "you should have no problem presenting evidence" a few times now, and I'm not sure where I implied I do have an issue with that. In this case - as with the sun being hot - the evidence is widely available and overwhelmingly weighted to my side of the argument, so I generally assume that the people who insist that the converse is true are either deliberately ignorant or base their beliefs on absurd religious texts.
This is not a free speech issue. At all.
There is a game called.dogstile said:
5 minutes to kill yourself in the store...
I'm sure that is much worse.
Though I have played it and it is fun so, what do I know?
I just can't believe some people in this thread. What f I made an app called Women's rights are the plague? What if I designed it so that it would teach women of the virtues of behaving like Victorian Era women with no right of ownership, no right to work, no right to vote etc? I would be called a bigot, a sexist and some other mean words.
But here are some posters saying Apple are wrong in taking down a similar hate message against a group of people. For shame.
Let it be known that I most certainly don't think women are baby machines that should stay at home for all their life.
But here are some posters saying Apple are wrong in taking down a similar hate message against a group of people. For shame.
Let it be known that I most certainly don't think women are baby machines that should stay at home for all their life.
So assuming your heterosexual when did you choose to be straight? Assuming you hold one religious belief or another, when did you choose your religion?dementis said:
Let me rephrase my point: Why is it that ANYONE can determine that a issue can not be debated? You say that if I base my point off of "Absurd Religious texts", I am akin to people who deny the heat of the sun?Saikonate said:
I have had this debate before, and my point is ultimately a series of ?why? questions. If anyone from my church said ?Being gay is wrong and a choice. This is not up for debate?, I would have this same disagreement with them.
3 points:
1. The Appstore is not a public forum, and Apple can sell whatever the hell it wants on it. This is not an issue of freedom or of speech. It's an issue of the market. If you're pissed, go buy a Droid.
2. This action by Apple (if it IS an action, and not just some glitch or hack; there hasn't been an announcement) is not discriminatory against Christians. If an atheist organization put out a "Christian Cure" app, you better believe that Apple would block or pull that one, too.
3. We need to stop treating the idea that "homosexuality is a disease that is curable" as just another opinion and call it what it is: hate speech. It belongs in the same category of garbage as arguments about the genetic inferiority of certain races or genders. You have a constitutional right to say it, I suppose, but nobody, including Apple, has to take you seriously.
1. The Appstore is not a public forum, and Apple can sell whatever the hell it wants on it. This is not an issue of freedom or of speech. It's an issue of the market. If you're pissed, go buy a Droid.
2. This action by Apple (if it IS an action, and not just some glitch or hack; there hasn't been an announcement) is not discriminatory against Christians. If an atheist organization put out a "Christian Cure" app, you better believe that Apple would block or pull that one, too.
3. We need to stop treating the idea that "homosexuality is a disease that is curable" as just another opinion and call it what it is: hate speech. It belongs in the same category of garbage as arguments about the genetic inferiority of certain races or genders. You have a constitutional right to say it, I suppose, but nobody, including Apple, has to take you seriously.
