Apple Brainwashes Gay Cure App from iTunes

[Autohellion]

Its absolutely idiotic that the app was removed. In order for speech to be hateful it has to be directed at someone, just saying being gay is a disease is not hateful speech ,it is not ignorant speech. When it comes to issues like this ignorance is a very subjective term. If i want to believe that homosexuality is a disease, that being black devalues you, hell, even if i think women should be second class citizens ,as long as i don't actively harm someone its fine for me to spew my views all over. A true friend of freedom would defend the right of people of any level of intelligence to say and think whatever they want.

 

[bob-2000]

If someone posted an app that claimed to cure the disease that is religion it would be national news.

If someone posted an app that claims you can cure the disease of being black it would be national news

If someone posts and app that can cure you from the disease of being gay it should be protected by free speech?

I do not like double standards especially when applied to large groups of people.

Homosexuality and Religion are a choice, if someone wants to believe they can cure it let them. Curing being black is purely genetic adaptation so curing that would be slapping evolution in the faceand therefore completely wrong.

So assuming your heterosexual when did you choose to be straight? Assuming you hold one religious belief or another, when did you choose your religion?

I chose to be straight when I was 16 after trying both homo and heterosexuality (I was curoius that year). I chose to be an athiest after my 4th year at a catholic primary school when I found that the scientific explanation of the universe made much more sense than the attempted indoctrination.

Being curious and then deciding that being straight is right for you is not the same as choosing not to be gay. I'm talking from experience when I say that people don't choose to be homosexuals. Its just how they're born. You were being open-minded and curious when you dabbled, but you were straight the whole time.

 

[Something Amyss]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

It doesn't hurt their policies said things like this WOULDN'T be published, so....

 

[LCP]

Call me whatever you want but I think it's comparable to a mental disorder if you really think about it...

Stupid app anyways, but even more stupid are the people insulted by it

It's funny how anyone who disagree with homosexuality is suddenly a bigot, and a homophobe

 

[dementis]

If someone posted an app that claimed to cure the disease that is religion it would be national news.

If someone posted an app that claims you can cure the disease of being black it would be national news

If someone posts and app that can cure you from the disease of being gay it should be protected by free speech?

I do not like double standards especially when applied to large groups of people.

Homosexuality and Religion are a choice, if someone wants to believe they can cure it let them. Curing being black is purely genetic adaptation so curing that would be slapping evolution in the faceand therefore completely wrong.

So assuming your heterosexual when did you choose to be straight? Assuming you hold one religious belief or another, when did you choose your religion?

I chose to be straight when I was 16 after trying both homo and heterosexuality (I was curoius that year). I chose to be an athiest after my 4th year at a catholic primary school when I found that the scientific explanation of the universe made much more sense than the attempted indoctrination.

Being curious and then deciding that being straight is right for you is not the same as choosing not to be gay. I'm talking from experience when I say that people don't choose to be homosexuals. Its just how they're born. You were being open-minded and curious when you dabbled, but you were straight the whole time.

I have to agree with you there, but I do think sexuality is a combination of genetics, environment and personal choice, in my mind sexuality works like morality, no one is one extreme or the other just different shades of grey, but that's just my view

 

[4173]

Unless Apple became a government while I wasn't looking, this rates a big fat meh from me.

 

[godfist88]

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well what about those who don't want to be "cured" of their homosexuality. all these people are doing is making gays feel like they're freaks. it's already been proven by now that homosexuality is genetic, it part of who they are and they shouldn't feel ashamed of it.

oh by the way, you miss spelled portion.XD

 

[Lyri]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

Eh no.

It was offensive, period. People are trying to use the "freedom of speech" clause like it's some kind of excuse to spread hate.
Lets be honest if it was a "Cure Niggers" app then people would be furious about it, it's just the same for the gay community.

 

[Unesh52]

I don't think the app should have been removed. I think people would be very right to send hate mail to the people who made it, to make tee-shirts declaiming it, or march in the streets about it, but it's silly to insist that Apple remove it. It probably would be more productive to simply ignore it. Ignorance isn't a crime. I mean, I know that Apple is a private company and can pretty much host whatever it wants, and I don't think they were being unreasonable by responding to their customers demands -- to not do so would hurt their bottom line, after all. I think that the people who demanded their view (yes, I understand that it's virtually inarguably the right one) be the only one allowed are just being petty.

 

[coolkirb]

If you can make books saying the holocost never happened you should be allowed to make this app

 

[Dogstile]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

Eh no.

It was offensive, period. People are trying to use the "freedom of speech" clause like it's some kind of excuse to spread hate.
Lets be honest if it was a "Cure Niggers" app then people would be furious about it, it's just the same for the gay community.

"Niggers" is a derogatory term. Gay however, is not.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Hm...perhaps if they changed the name Apple might let it come back. Reading that title I immediately went, "That's not the way to win people over to your side." Dialogue is important to changing opinions, not beating someone over the head right out of the gate and telling them that they're wrong.

 

[Yoshemo]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" I think this app should be allowed, free speech and all. I also think there should be a "GayDar" App that lets homosexual people find each other.

There is

 

[AnarchistAbe]

Why do all these threads turn into a Christian hate-fest? You have your beliefs, we have ours...that's all that I'm saying.

P.S. Not saying that I agree or disagree with the app. Mainly, the "our ideas" comment was referring to God.

 

[4173]

If you can make books saying the holocost never happened you should be allowed to make this app

They are allowed to make the app. Apple just declined to sell it.

 

[Lizmichi]

I find the idea of this app offensive to say the least. Me being bi isn't an illness that needs to be cured. If you're going to be a bigot don't expect a company like Apple to support you're hate speech.

 

[Unesh52]

And mark my words, if this comes to pass on a wider scale the freedom of religion and the freedom of belief will be destroyed.

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This is, quite literally, one group forcibly silencing another group's dissenting opinion.

That's true; it's one group silencing a dissenting opinion. However, they're allowed to do that. They're a private company. They could, in fact, refuse to sell any apps related to teaching Christianity. For no reason. It's their right. I'm not saying they should, and they certainly won't -- the public outcry would be deafening. But even if they did, it wouldn't exactly be a dismantling of democracy (which it wouldn't be anyway because democracy doesn't imply equality -- that's why the US isn't strictly a democracy). What you're supposing is a slippery slope that just doesn't apply. The actions of some guys in the private sector don't set a precedent for the governmental policy of the US. Furthermore, this isn't the first time this has happened, it happens all the damn time, and it's not encroaching on the freedom of religion.

That being said, I wish the public wouldn't blackmail Apple into removing it. I think they should have just ignored it, made a counter app, blogged about it, whatever, but not pretended that Apple was somehow responsible for it or supportive of it.