Apple/Valve partnership in the works?

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Atmos Duality

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As long as such a hypothetical partnership doesn't buttfuck Steam or otherwise force me to enter into virtual exclusivity with Apple's "products" (Quicktime and iTunes can fuck right off) to use Steam, I don't really see much reason to be concerned.
 

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Tim Cook came with gifts of ham and money for Gabe Newell so that Macs could have more games...


Also...I dont know who Tim Cook is but Im sure "Whenever Cook is spotted out and about, people take notice" only happens to people who are on a site called "Cult of Mac"
 

XMark

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Interesting... it would be neat if an Apple/Valve combo entered the console wars next generation. Big four instead of big three?
 

Agayek

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Cowabungaa said:
To be precise, they're the most successful hardware designers in the world, not makers. Their expertise lies not in hardware, it lies in designing the most efficient user interface and make the most refined user experience possible. They're experts in taking complicated technology and scaling them down, user-interface-wise, so that even the most technologically disabled person can use it.

And that's why I have my doubts with this cooperation. Steam's core audience is completely different from Apple's core audience. Completely different needs and with completely different characteristics. Apple markets and designs it's products not as kick-ass technology, but as fashion items, as cool stuff. And that just won't do for the audience I think Steam has in mind for what they want to make.

Though to be fair I think that it doesn't matter whom Valve cooperates with, any sort of Steam Box is doomed to fail.
This cannot be said enough.

Apple makes computers for the technologically dis-inclined. All of their products are designed with one premise in mind: uniformity and simplicity trumps everything. Whether that's good or bad is up for debate, and either way it's certainly profitable.

Unfortunately for this partnership, Valve's customer base is generally well versed in the basics (if not more) of the technology they use. Apple's approach simply isn't going to work very well when applied to Valve's customerbase.

That said, Valve's almost certainly not making a Steam console. If for no other reason than because that's just a PC. This meeting is almost certainly about applications for and production of biometric devices. I'm in the tech industry myself, and the (almost certainly correct) rumor going around is that they're going to team up for "wearable devices". For example, a blood sugar monitor for diabetes patients, clothes that react to the environment (get thicker as it gets colder, thinner as it gets warmer, etc), and the like. I have no idea on the specifics of what they're getting up to, but it will almost certainly fall into that category.

It wouldn't surprise me terribly if Valve comes out with their own smartphone of some sort after all's said and done.
 

Issurru

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Agayek said:
rumor going around is that they're going to team up for "wearable devices". For example, a blood sugar monitor for diabetes patients, clothes that react to the environment (get thicker as it gets colder, thinner as it gets warmer, etc), and the like.
This sounds awesome, but how in the hell would it work?

OT: I wouldn't like this pair up at all, unless what happens by their union results in what was in the quote above. But then again I detest Apple and a lot of their customers (albeit I have only met the "stereotypical" ones, who are sadly my cousins, who buy a brand new Apple product the moment it comes out regardless of how functional their 5 month old one is. Then praise Apple for being "the greatest" and even went as far as to tell my dad that "it would change his life") /rant

I don't really see the good that would come out of this either, I thought Apple was all super restrictive in its policies where as Valve was more relaxed. I view Apple as the Office from the movie Office Space and Valve as GameaVision from Code Monkey's, well at least work environment wise anyways :p
 

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Issurru said:
I don't really see the good that would come out of this either, I thought Apple was all super restrictive in its policies where as Valve was more relaxed. I view Apple as the Office from the movie Office Space and Valve as GameaVision from Code Monkey's, well at least work environment wise anyways :p
That's a broadly accurate description of how both companies approach their business. Apple is hyper-restrictive with their products, it's a manifestation of their "simplicity and uniformity is god" ideology.

Valve basically just flings out their stuff and says "make something happen with this", then hires the people who actually do.

It'll be interesting to see how it comes together.

Issurru said:
Agayek said:
rumor going around is that they're going to team up for "wearable devices". For example, a blood sugar monitor for diabetes patients, clothes that react to the environment (get thicker as it gets colder, thinner as it gets warmer, etc), and the like.
This sounds awesome, but how in the hell would it work?
I assume you mean the clothes, yes? If that's the case, you'll want to look into "electronic textiles". It's a very broad term for what is in essence clothes that have computers built/woven into them. There's a variety of forms that it takes, the fun/interesting ones are mostly theoretical at the moment though (as far as I know anyway, I haven't kept up to date on it).

I read an article a couple years ago where they were talking about the reactionary clothes I mentioned here. I forget the specifics, but the gist was that the clothes would be woven out of a special material that could be molded with the application of an electric current. Think kinda like Batman's cape in Batman Begins. When a current is applied, the fibers expand, and when the current stops, they shrink back down. They were working on a prototype, but power supply was the big concern for it if memory serves. No idea what happened to it since.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-textiles

Here's a link to the wiki article on electronic textiles. Not much there, but it's intriguing nonetheless.
 

Issurru

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Agayek said:
SUPER SNIP
That sounds really interesting, I shall research it post haste! Also, is it weird that when you first said that they get thicker/thinner the first thing that I thought of was Batman's cape with the electricity going through it? I find it slightly odd. Then again great minds must think alike :D

Captcha: poison apple, either you mean to warn me about the apple i'm eating and should stop spying on my skynet, I've done nothing wrong (yet). Or that they will make a wearable device that tests for poisons/bacteria in food!
 

Adultism

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Valve is already getting greedy and corrupt

Apple has been there for awhile.

Soon all companies will be like EA
 

Agayek

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Issurru said:
That sounds really interesting, I shall research it post haste! Also, is it weird that when you first said that they get thicker/thinner the first thing that I thought of was Batman's cape with the electricity going through it? I find it slightly odd. Then again great minds must think alike :D

Captcha: poison apple, either you mean to warn me about the apple i'm eating and should stop spying on my skynet, I've done nothing wrong (yet). Or that they will make a wearable device that tests for poisons/bacteria in food!
I was trying to find the article I mentioned earlier and stumbled across this http://www.xslabs.net/papers/texile05-berzowska.pdf

It's not the specific article, but the concepts are similar and will serve as a good place to get you started.
 

Adrian Herber

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You know what would be awesome: Steam as an alternative sales platform (to the App Store) on iOS.

It would help Apple expand their walled garden concept in a way that reduces monopoly (protects them from anti-monopoly lawsuits from the gov as they get larger market share) but maintains App quality (compared to Android stores giving out Angry Birds Space with malware embedded, etc).

It would also help raise the profile of gaming for Apple, which there are many hints is a direction they're pursuing.

And as consumers we would win in a big way, since the current Apple App store is really primitive compared to steam - especially for the discovery of good games outside of the 'top 10' or so super-popular games.

I know, I'm probably dreaming. But what a dream! Apple's great hardware (anti-apple fanboys, give it a rest - the retina screens are awesome), freed from their oppressive central control and partnered with Valve, the best gaming company in the world.