Are Chinese mothers superior to American mothers?

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JWAN

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chif-ii said:
Quantity, they definitely have us beat. Quality, well...

Not to offend any Jews or Germans, but she sounds like Hitler. Glad I'm not Chinese.
^ this. Good ol Chairman Mao knew how to raise children!... by raise I mean beat them and send them to a rice paddy
 

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JWAN said:
chif-ii said:
Quantity, they definitely have us beat. Quality, well...

Not to offend any Jews or Germans, but she sounds like Hitler. Glad I'm not Chinese.
^ this. Good ol Chairman Mao knew how to raise children!... by raise I mean beat them and send them to a rice paddy
I always thought he raised children by starving them and making them murder their countrymen.
 

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99% of ALL parent are bad. Ive only ever known one truly healthy and balanced family and no, its not mine.
 

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Sun Flash said:
That's what? at least a billion people you're talking about? bit of a sweeping generalisation you've got there. I'm sure you'll find some American mothers having healthier, well rounded, happy children than some Chinese mothers and vice versa.
This could bear with repeating a few more times.

Sewblon said:
I think that that is because China's rigid political structure stifles innovation. I mean democratic Athens produced great philosophers while oligarchic Sparta only produced great warriors.
Not exactly...alot of the great innovations were started in Athens before democracy, because the ruler didn't have the excuse of being a king and so needed to keep the people happy. They continued in Athens for centuries, regardless of what political system was in place that generation.
 

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Khada said:
99% of ALL parent are bad. Ive only ever known one truly healthy and balanced family and no, its not mine.
This is so completely wrong of a generalization that it's more sad you think this rather than funny.
 

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Rather short sighted to make such a generalize comparison. After all, a certain mother can be good with a certain child, and bad with a certain child, depending on the needs, so, I would probably vary. But, I'm by no means an expert so I could just be talking out my ass.
 

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skitzo van said:
Of course you will technically be a better parent for treating your kid like a product you can completely dilute and control, but it'll also make you a terrible human being. This lady is horrid, everyone has the right to their own opinion, and so do I: why the hell would she do this to her kids? "they have to be no.1 in everything except gym and drama" What if some kid with photographic memory comes along and is in your child's class? Beat the shit out of your child?
I agree with this statement
I mean this may an article from the wallstreet journal but it's just so damn stereo-typical it's not even funny
oh yeah anyone else read it with a stereo-typical asian woman voice in their head
 

Varanfan9

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No. Restriction of freedom for the sake of intelligence and success is not better than allowing a teen to mature naturally and have their skills progress at their own rate.
 

tikalal

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BonsaiK said:
tikalal said:
BonsaiK said:
Look at this post carefully. You might find some foul language but what you won't find is a spelling mistake.
Mum was in our bedrooms taking us temperature
:D

(Not trying to take away from your actual point, I just thought that was pretty funny!)
Hey, "us" is a word. Anyway, I fixed it so I didn't get a beating, now piss off, Mum.
I guess joking around was never a big thing for you. Geez.
 

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Amy Chua said:
Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:
? attend a sleepover

? have a playdate

? be in a school play

? complain about not being in a school play

? watch TV or play computer games

? choose their own extracurricular activities

? get any grade less than an A

? not be the No. 1 student in every subject except gym and drama

? play any instrument other than the piano or violin

? not play the piano or violin.
I think this woman is getting what it means to be a good parent VERY VERY WRONG. Yes, your kids are successful. BUT THEY HATE YOU. I know for a fact I would run away from home and join the circus just to NOT HAVE TO BE WITH MY MOTHER.
 

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That sounds pretty rough. If every mother in the world felt that way, there would be no orchestras, athletes, artists, or actors. What a dry boring world that would be.
 

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What makes a good mother or parent in general is the overall want to help a child become good at what they want to be, to look out for their well being but not in such a manner as to control every aspect of their life, and to make sure they are happy as well as productive - but the thing to understand is that a child is not a machine to be programmed and that they can only be guided towards what the parent sees as being best, not completely altering them.
so in short - I do not agree with any of those parts that the article says that the children were not allowed to do I mean - can't complain about participating and have to be No. 1 in everything?
That parent, if the article can be believed should have just had an android made instead of children - I mean almost (not every) child wants or needs that much totalitarian control in their lives in order to be successful.

I think the greatest lie in this world would have to be "all men are created equal" - it's obvious that everybody adapts and learns in their own way, but what I can agree on from that lie is that every man, woman, and child have equal opportunity if they are willing and able to work for it.

And to poster 12 - no, American parents are not all less than their counterparts - your viewpoint is limited and it is because so many people have limiting viewpoints and beliefs that people tend to argue. So to you sir or ma'am, I disagree with your statement.
 

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Actually, now that I think of it, Chinese mothers obviously are superior to American ones.

I mean, they outnumber them about 3 to 1, that's a big difference.
 

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As a 16 year old born in Hong Kong, I think what the article states about Chinese mothers is partially true. While my mother has a thing for pushing me to get the best grades as possible, she's always going to accept it whenever I get anything less than an A. "A's" just a target to aim for, it's not the end of the world if I miss it. Still, she always wants me to do the best in anything, but she's not going to be disappointed if I don't.

However, I dispute the idea that all Chinese parents would berate their children whenever they fail at something. To me, it's a tiring stereotype that's never completely true. I think mothers living in America and the West are capable of the same parenting habits and not just parents in Asia, but personally I really discourage it. Parents should be happy that their child's capable of studying and learning and they shouldn't pressure them so much. They're just kids, not supermen.
 

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skitzo van said:
"they have to be no.1 in everything except gym and drama"
Which is kind of bullshit in and of itself, considering the most grossly overpaid people on Earth are actors and professional sports players.
 

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not letting your children make any decisions for themselves, and forcing them to not interact with friends as much as normal people? sounds like a parent i would never want to have

on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being a mother that kills her child and 10 being a mother that does a fantastic job raising their child and supports their hobbies and decisions... id put the mother in the article at about a 3, with the mothers that go out to bars all the time and dont give a crap whats going on in their kids lives. shes just as bad imo
 

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Sewblon said:
Dags90 said:
I'd rather have a B student than worry about higher suicide rates.[footnote]http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=c2b8f3a43bbe3e0445f23274028d24a7[/footnote]

Academic success isn't the end all be all in measuring child rearing. It's about as accurate a depiction of "good parenting" as income is of "happiness".
American and Canadian teens actually commit suicide more often then Japanese or Chinese teens. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sui_rat_in_age_15_24-suicide-rates-ages-15-24
All that says to me is New Zealand is beating the shit out of the other countries at this. I mean fuck. I heard New Zealand was an awesome place, that's weird.