Yoshi178 said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Lastly, consoles are still far more convenient and easier to use. You pop in a disc on PS4 and you're playing within 2 minutes.
within 2 minutes after the installation which takes forever.
Rangaman said:
Off the disk. You did, after all, specify that you "popped a disc" into your PS4. Why would I be talking about downloads?
Several people in this thread (a few posts up for 2 of them) have said basically the same thing about the PS4 as I have. Another poster was talking about digital and I was talking about physical so I thought the same miscommunication may have happened.
Xsjadoblayde said:
You are right; disc install speeds are so much faster than I expected and is another reason I try to keep my large game purchases as disc only. The few times a digital deal was too good to pass off, the download times become something else entirely though. With a download speed that has bipolar tendancies too. And the size of the games being around 50gig means it's a constant juggle of deleting what looks like won't be played anytime soon to allow for a new game. I don't think being stuck with a purchase branded onto your identity forever is a plus in pro-consumer choice either. Don't mind small games so much, but impulsive digital AAA purchases are going to stain pretty badly.
I have yet to download a big AAA game on PS4 because if you're going to take away my ability to sell my game, then you better give me a quite a discount on a game. You want me to buy digitally so I can't resell the game so make it worth my while basically. I have yet to see the digital price be cheaper (even with sales) than what I can get a physical copy for. Down the line, I can see getting a big AAA game on the PS Store when prices to get really good (under $20) like they did/do on PS3. I don't see myself buying a big game digitally and really wanting to play it right away as it'll probably be a pick up due to a good sale and it will thus be added to the backlog so download times wouldn't be a major factor for me.
Ezekiel said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Lastly, consoles are still far more convenient and easier to use.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean. Using a PC is quite easy and convenient, if you want it to be. I never have to fiddle around with files unless, maybe, it's an old game. There hasn't been one previous generation game that I couldn't get running. My games are organized into much simpler lists and icons than the messy PlayStation and Xbox UIs, and I can launch any of them in three seconds. It takes a little longer if it requires a client, unfortunately. Bugs are more common, but they're almost always fixable and a small price to pay for customization. What is so hard about using a PC after the initial setup? (Everything needs to be set up. You think a console isn't confusing for someone who never games or knows much about TVs?) Stop perpetuating this lie.
What lie? I'm tired of PC gamers saying every pro of a console is now a pro of a PC when it's not. Even Witcher 3 sold more on PS4 than PC, there's reasons lots of people prefer console gaming.
I'm a PC tech and I don't really care to have the hassle of PC gaming, I know it's not a big or constant hassle by any stretch. I can buy a game and just know it's going to work on PS4. I bought games like Arkham Knight and Dishonored 2 on release day and the games played great. Whereas on PC, I mostly likely would've had some major issues. There are the occasional games (major releases too) that might not even launch for some users like say No Man's Sky. TotalBiscuit did a video on Rise of the Tomb Raider saying he wasn't having the same issues as Destructoid using the same exact settings. I may end up having the issues Destructoid had for example. Then, there's probably going to be some minor issue crop up here and there that will takes probably hours of your time to nail down; there was a thread on here not long ago about a Skyrim issue where their character stopped moving forward. I know you can refund on Steam quite easy now, but that is a very new feature and it wasn't an option a few years back. Those deciding PS4/X1 or PC just this gen did not have Steam refunds as a factor in their decision-making for instance.
A lot of people just don't like playing at their computer desks. Consoles are designed for the entertainment room to play on your big TV with your sound system on your comfy couch. You can hook up a PC to a TV really easy but then the PC isn't at the computer desk and thus you can't use it as a PC (you'd have to move it back and forth). You can do that Miracast thing (which isn't without issue) but then both your PC and TV have to support a certain protocol. Even if that works, your controller most likely won't have the range to work from your living room to your computer room. Console gaming is even cheaper than PC gaming due to the ability to resell games. I don't have to wait for a sale to get cheap games, I can buy on Day 1 if I want to for $20 at most (after selling the game).