are gunblades plausible

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AkJay

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Gunblades DO exist.. try checking google before making dumb threads.
 

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benjimoon said:
Actually, it has been tried before. A "gun blade" is possible, and has been done before, but ends up sucking as both a gun and a blade and ultimately would be better to just use a good gun and a good blade separately.

See, a blade and a gun ultimately require different kinds of features that aren't really compatible, let alone overlap. For instances, if the gun in the "blade" is too big, it unbalances the blade, making it bad. If the gun is too small it's accuracy will be crap, making it only effective at the same distance the blade would be, thus useless. A grip for a gun is also different than that of a sword. A sword requires a smooth but comfortable grip, in order to allow it's user to hold it comfortably during impact. A gun requires a "bumpy", gritty, grip to hold it steady while shooting. A gritty grip on a sword is quite uncomfortable and tends to "sandpaper" the user's hand/s, while a smooth grip on a gun will be equally uncomfortable, making it slippery and imprecise to fire with... Then there's the "angle" of the grip, and so on.

Ultimately, it's better to have both a good gun and a good blade separately, than to have a mediocre (at best) "gunblade".
 

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Caliostro said:
benjimoon said:
Actually, it has been tried before. A "gun blade" is possible, and has been done before, but ends up sucking as both a gun and a blade and ultimately would be better to just use.

See, a blade and a gun ultimately require different kinds of features that aren't really compatible, let alone overlap. For instances, if the gun in the "blade" is too big, it unbalances the blade, making it bad. If the gun is too small it's accuracy will be crap, making it only effective at the same distance the blade would be, thus useless. A grip for a gun is also different than that of a sword. A sword requires a smooth but comfortable grip, in order to allow it's user to hold it comfortably during impact. A gun requires a "bumpy", gritty, grip to hold it steady while shooting. A gritty grip on a sword is quite uncomfortable and tends to "sandpaper" the user's hand/s, while a smooth grip on a gun will be equally uncomfortable, making it slippery and imprecise to fire with... Then there's the "angle" of the grip, and so on.

Ultimately, it's better to have both a good gun and a good blade separately, than to have a mediocre (at best) "gunblade".
Well, if you hide the "gun" part well enough, it would make a good psyche-out weapon in a swordfight. Which you know, NOBODY DOES ANYMORE
 

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hagaya said:
Throne said:
Nothing like shooting a generic bad-guy in the face and then stabbing their partner with a searing hot blade.

/FF is crap.
Ah yes, the burning intestines of my adversary and a bullet in his friend's head. Truly a way to counter a double team.

Also, while the a few iterations are bad, Final Fantasy in general isn't crap, and I don't think you know what the slash in front of that line is supposed to mean. It's Html and it's supposed to mean the end of something.
Does something suggest I don't know what I'm talking about?

I'm fully aware of the HTML reference, and I'm fully aware that Final Fantasy is a game. Your individual taste in games differs from mine, and doesn't make my statement any less true.
 

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If by "plausible" you mean "dorky", I vote "YES!".

But seriously now, a rifle with a mounted bayonet IS a gunblade. I'll explain why for all the naysayers out there. Rifle = gun. Bayonet = blade. Cha-ching! I win. Woot!
 

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I'm a little surprised no one has even started trying to combine other types of ranged weapons with blades, for instance a katana that has a flamethrower built into the hilt that blows down along the blade.

The Kata, mix that with a corssbow if your bored, it could be possible and due to the syle of wielding it and the weight it shouldn't be that bad to aim either.

See my point.
 

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I think I recall reading some FF based books and there was a chapter about the gun blade, and if I remember correctly it doesn't shoot a bullet per-say but a blank, just to cause the blade to vibrate...

Might be wrong. I am not?

Because of the weapon's design, many believed a gunblade could be used for ranged combat due to the effect of a muzzle flash during a triggered slash. While agreeable, the fact of the matter is, triggering an actual round would cause such an awkward recoil that it could not be used in the manner it is, due to the added pressure that comes with the bullet ejecting from the barrel. Instead, a gunblade uses blank rounds packed with gunpowder. Less contents are under pressure, and the desired effect of a tremor in the blade is still achieved. As for the muzzle flash, there would still have to be a barrel running through the inside of the blade, allowing for the shockwave effect, with a bore at the tip for the gas to escape. If not for this, the gas would explode through the chamber and framework of the weapon itself, damaging the weapon and most likely the wielder.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gunblade#ixzz0JWeD0JOp&C

Not exactly the thing I read but along the same lines.
 

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i don't think so in FF 10 (i think) the gunblades were huge who would want to carry suck a thing
 

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I'm not sure it's been said enough in this thread that Squall's gunblade isn't a gun. It's just a specialized sword. An actual gunblade would be a gun and a bayonet...
 

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Throne said:
hagaya said:
Throne said:
Nothing like shooting a generic bad-guy in the face and then stabbing their partner with a searing hot blade.

/FF is crap.
Ah yes, the burning intestines of my adversary and a bullet in his friend's head. Truly a way to counter a double team.

Also, while the a few iterations are bad, Final Fantasy in general isn't crap, and I don't think you know what the slash in front of that line is supposed to mean. It's Html and it's supposed to mean the end of something.
Does something suggest I don't know what I'm talking about?

I'm fully aware of the HTML reference, and I'm fully aware that Final Fantasy is a game. Your individual taste in games differs from mine, and doesn't make my statement any less true.
Yes but the slash means an end to something.
/FF is crap. Literally means End FF is crap. It just doesn't make sense.
 

Jaythulhu

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Rifle + Knife. Gee, that's something new, not at all something that's been done since the discovery of black powder weapons.
 

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SomeUnregPunk said:
pdgeorge said:
Holy christ how many of you people are going on about 'what a Gunblade is' but your so far from the truth? (extreme geek mode = on)
A gunblade in ff8 does not shoot a bullet at all. When you pull the trigger, it causes a reverberation down the sword giving the sword strike extra damadge. That's all.

In that sence, no they arn't plausable because while it does add extra force to the strike theoretically, unless your really strong and able to hold the sword firmly the whole way, you will lose grip of it and things will go tits up.
Calm down dude and read the first post. He said nothing about Final Fantasy. All he asked was if gunblades are possible.
When you say the word "gunblade" the primary (if not only time) it is actualy said is in connection to final fantasy 8, squall's primary weapon.
Should you be talking about a gun/rifle with a stabby thing attached the the end that is a beyonette

eatenbyagrue said:
pdgeorge said:
Holy Christ how many of you people are going on about 'what a Gunblade is' but your so far from the truth? (extreme geek mode = on)
A Gunblade in FF8 does not shoot a bullet at all. When you pull the trigger, it causes a reverberation down the sword giving the sword strike extra damage. That's all.

In that sense, no they aren't plausible because while it does add extra force to the strike theoretically, unless your really strong and able to hold the sword firmly the whole way, you will lose grip of it and things will go tits up.
Fix'd for grammar.

Also, that's supposed to be better how? Exactly how is turning the sword into a giant steel vibrator going to do more damage?
I have no clue how it's supposed to be better. Square told people "hey! this is how you do it" and in a video game you just accept it. It does more damadge thats all you care about. In real life as I said it would be massivly different. I can't be bothered working out the exact physics behind it atm but bassically "stabby thing is in the middle of someone... cause an explosion to go off in the middle of the stabby thing causing it to do more damadge?"
I don't know if the explosion would realisticy do anyhting because it takes a bit of thinking to work that out (and knowledge of physics).

either way, owning a gunblade replica myself... I know that they are rather hard to wield. If you were going to use a stabby thing like that, you might aswell just use a genuine sword.
 

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Gunblades are sick... But as long as we're talking about crazy weapons, pit one against a Fat Man and see what happens.
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
Firearms obsoleted the sword way back in the 19th century. I'm not sure why you'd want to combine the two unless you were some sort of cock who didn't know anything about modern combat. A bayonet adds limited melee support to a rifle, although it makes it unwieldy in the sort of MOUT situation that the rifle may be useful in.

Ollie596 said:
50 years from now when you get bipedal metal gears walking around a gunblade is going to do nothing.
And 50 years from now, when we have autonomous UAVs armed with dozens of high-explosive bombs, those bipedal mecha are just going to get knocked over. Actually, a modern helicopter could easily wipe the floor with a mecha, and the bipedal design adds nothing except weight and complexity in the guise of gyroscopic components.
Choppers can't clear crowded streets or go inside of buildings.