Are humans inherently evil?
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Moral relativism up in this ************.
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Even so, your idea of evil is entirely subjective.number4096 said:
If you remove all fears, retributions, etc. then you aren't really creating a human. Human beings biology and behavior are a combination of genetics and environment-if you remove one or the other you're not creating a human, at least not one that will actually exist in the world.
Our society is still tribal. We just call it civilisation now. It's no different just the stakes are. Territory is now money. Attacking is now done by lawyers and the press. Murder, is encapsuled by everything the power does. Territory isn't worth anything anymore but oil, coal, religion, arms; all these things are the new symbols of ones superiority. The only major difference is that women have joined the fight.DeadlyYellow said:
Ah, but money is largely useless once the shackles of society are removed. What good is an impractical exchange of paper (or in today's age, computer data) when someone can just enter, kill the current owner and take what they want?Beldaros said:
I am led to believe that everyone misunderstood what i meant by evil,so i will rephrase:
If you were abused or bullied as a child,did the bullies had any logical reasons to bully you?
For example did they:
-gained money out of it?
-gained food and shelter?
-gained promotion?
-were enacting vengeance upon something you had done to them earlier?
-were threatened into doing it?
-if it was for popularity,why would this be popular in the first place?
-they thought it was completely hilarious?
-something else?
Which of these may have been their reason to do it(Skip if you were never bullied.)?
If you were abused or bullied as a child,did the bullies had any logical reasons to bully you?
For example did they:
-gained money out of it?
-gained food and shelter?
-gained promotion?
-were enacting vengeance upon something you had done to them earlier?
-were threatened into doing it?
-if it was for popularity,why would this be popular in the first place?
-they thought it was completely hilarious?
-something else?
Which of these may have been their reason to do it(Skip if you were never bullied.)?
Arg...should i go religious...yes because my religion affects my view. So yes I believe that ppl are inherently evil, but can be saved from evil by God. I make no apologies if that offends you.
First of all that argument is a little redundent sorry to say that, as I was simply stating that our society is still tribal.DeadlyYellow said:
Also though the theory still stands in any situation. Our society willm always fight for power, whatever power is represented by, a person will never kill someone unless the owner has something of worth or for revenge. We will always fight for dominance and survival of the fittest will still apply, no matter what you take froom an animal.
The most dangerous thing in this world is a dream, people are capable of anything if they have a dream and people will always do things to fulfill a person they see as rigtheos' dream. Again I refer to Hitler, but he wasn't evil.
Well it's like Yahtzee said: in half life your the guy that everyone portrays as a hero so it makes it so much more fun to be jackass.
If most people fight for power,then what would they once they got all the power in the world?
Would it be evil?And sadistically so?If not,then why do we refuse to give it to them?
Think of most politicians and authority figures you know or had heard of for this question.
Would it be evil?And sadistically so?If not,then why do we refuse to give it to them?
Think of most politicians and authority figures you know or had heard of for this question.
If there was no reprecussion for our actions and etc people would just revert to being cavemen literally so we would devolve. We would act like animals more and end up using the more baser primal parts of our brain.
No, I don't think humans are inherently evil or inherently good. The fact that the OP went for the evil when, just as often, people do good things is unusual. They just happen on a much smaller scale. It's the little things that keep me from losing faith in humanity completely.
To be honest, I blame this sort of world view on the media. They foreground all the bad stuff, so it can seem like the whole world is full of dicks. Ever noticed how good things never make the news, but the terrible things do?
I don't believe the is full of dicks. I think they're more vocal and easier to spot.
With the exception of a small few, most people I have met have at least one saving quality.
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To be honest, I blame this sort of world view on the media. They foreground all the bad stuff, so it can seem like the whole world is full of dicks. Ever noticed how good things never make the news, but the terrible things do?
I don't believe the is full of dicks. I think they're more vocal and easier to spot.
With the exception of a small few, most people I have met have at least one saving quality.
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I had to answer this question in English once, here's how my answer went. (I don't even know if this is the kind of answer you wanted, but oh well)
--People are not naturally evil, or savage, but are simply selfish.
-Good and Evil are simply labels based on opinion, and humans tend to believe that their own opinions are always right, therefore that people who differ from their society are evil. Since we live in a society that doesn't condone murder, we believe that murder is an 'evil' thing and should not be practiced. However other people may disagree because they believe murder is a way for them to get what they want.
-There is no reason that our own opinions of 'good' and 'evil' are more valid than others, but we will always think that they are, because people are selfish.
--So therefore if we all grew up in a world without society's influence, then many of us would hurt others to ensure our own survival, not thinking about the welfare of others. But without our society, such acts would then not be considered evil either, since we would have no outside opinions influencing our own.
--People are not naturally evil, or savage, but are simply selfish.
-Good and Evil are simply labels based on opinion, and humans tend to believe that their own opinions are always right, therefore that people who differ from their society are evil. Since we live in a society that doesn't condone murder, we believe that murder is an 'evil' thing and should not be practiced. However other people may disagree because they believe murder is a way for them to get what they want.
-There is no reason that our own opinions of 'good' and 'evil' are more valid than others, but we will always think that they are, because people are selfish.
--So therefore if we all grew up in a world without society's influence, then many of us would hurt others to ensure our own survival, not thinking about the welfare of others. But without our society, such acts would then not be considered evil either, since we would have no outside opinions influencing our own.
Evil? No, selfish? Yes, since in the end, all that matters to you, is you, and all that matters to me, is me (Bioshock Andrew Ryan quote). So you might ask, well why does some people dedicate their life to charity then? Well mayby cause it makes THEM feel good about themselves, good deeds might make you feel good about yourself, would you really do them if they wouldn't?