...since when is that a stereotype?chromewarriorXIII said:I was actually thinking of both Colette and Presea who are on different ends of the spectrum but neither are sexualized and neither are stereotypical. As for the stereotype, I was thinking of Raine, the big sister who knows everything and takes care of everybody.NeutralDrow said:That's why I object to the use of "stereotypical" in cases like these, especially when you can claim someone is "mildly" stereotypical.chromewarriorXIII said:Pretty much all the girls in Tales of Symphonia aren't sexualized (with the exception of Sheena), although some of them are slightly stereotypical.
I'm assuming you're referring to Colette, who acts rather girly a lot of the time...which since she's a very friendly, young, and somewhat sheltered girl, makes all the sense in the world. I know you're not probably not doing this, but I think she rather demonstrates the case against mistaking femininity (rather than insulting caricature) for stereotype. To say nothing of how genuinely deep she is.
...then again, I'd also object to saying Sheena is sexualized. Maybe in the eyes of Zelos or overzealous fanartists, but being poked fun at for having a large chest doesn't strike me as being the writers aiming for sexy. I might concede the outfit, I suppose, though it's still far more modest than most negative examples I can think of.
Raine's got them. They're just smaller and not obvious under her default outfit. I'll concede Sheena's outfit, though. It just doesn't seem all that obvious to me.I only think that Sheena is sexualized, not because she has a large chest but because she is the only girl in the party that has breasts at all. Not even Raine (who is older) has anything. Sheena, while being a vital character, also seemed to have the role of fan-service tacked onto her.
But they're not all that well characterized (especially Rochelle), because all four characters are meant to be interchangeable. They're not bad characters by any mean- certainly they have personalities and back-stories, but Alyx is much better defined and actually drives the narrative to some extent.MurderousToaster said:^ EDIT: Lol at the post above me.
The Left 4 Dead women are actually pretty non-stereotypical. You have Zoey, a sort of loner-type who spent the majority of her time in her Dad's apartment watching horror films and Rochelle who's a journalist who got involved via being assigned there.
RelexCryo said:Sigh....
Heavenly Sword: Main character, whatever the hell her name is.
I hate to nit-pick, but does Chell have any characteristics at all? I don't think non-sexualization counts when you just give them the same amount of characterization as Gordon Freeman, but tell us he's a girl now.subject_87 said:There's Chell, from Portal: strong, capable, and not sexualized to any real degree.
but sadly she never talks.subject_87 said:There's Chell, from Portal: strong, capable, and not sexualized to any real degree.
There is a difference between having one or two stereotypical traits and being a stereotype. She defeats entire armies single handedly. She is a highly trained warrior. She is not a stereotype. Yes, she has long hair (women are genetically inclined to grow hair faster and longer than men, although men are actually inclined to grow fingernails faster than women, wierdly enough) and she does wear a skimpy outfit. She doesn't fit into any overall female stereotype however. I will remove her from the list if you like though.yamitami said:RelexCryo said:Sigh....
Heavenly Sword: Main character, whatever the hell her name is.
Really? You think that NARIKO isn't stereotyped? Yes, she can slice and dice with her blades, but the long hair and the square inch of fabric she wears are not there to help in battle.
Traffic Cone fetishists?Onyx Oblivion said:Your JRPG bias is showing.
I'd have to say Freya from Final Fantasy 9. Back in the year 2000.
Not very girly, or sexual. Unless you're appealing to the fetish market, that is.
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Not to be mean to Chell, but she's not that attractive when you first see "yourself" in the first portal.glodud said:the main character in portal
I never played Other M. No time or money. I hear it sets the women's rights moment back a few decades though. That's kind of to be expected from Team Ninja though. Still The various other Metroid address Samus's gender in the way that games should learn to: It doesn't matter what you like under the armor, all that matters is how many aliens you blast.Rainforce said:Twilight_guy said:Samus. Proving that men and women kick just as much ass as each other.THANK GOODNESS youre ignoring other M.Flying-Emu said:Jade, Samus...
I like your depiction of reality.
anyway, I'll probably go with "Alyx Vance" as well.
Out, out damn troll. Seriously dude, calm yourself. I know Samus has flaws in her depiction such as the end game scenes and that whole stupid Zero suit business and I know a generic action hero is a poor role-model for men or women but the fact that her gender is downplayed enough during the course of the game enough that it is a non-issue is a positive in a sea of negative.GiantRedButton said:Samus? the character who removed an armor piece for every hour you shaved of your playthrogh in metroid 2?Twilight_guy said:Samus. Proving that men and women kick just as much ass as each other.
The character that thus revealed herself in underwear for fast metroid 2 players?
The Samus that after dying still had the time to pose in her bikini every time in her most famous title Super metroid?
The Samus that could fight in a skintight suit in Super smash brothers brawl instead of her powerarmour, and then whip her enemies?
Yeah of course she isn't sexualized.
is this the fucking twilight zone?