Are you a "nice guy"?

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Arsen

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I am kind, humorous, but very draconian when it comes to rules and regulations. And if something "wrong" is going on...oh I'm a malevolent hearted asshole. Just to fight back and stand my ground of course. I have no grey areas within my system at all. I am either kind and compassionate, or brutal and merciless.

I am usually nice if that is what you are asking, but if someone turns on me, rubs me the wrong way, or does something cruel to me...I tend to overlook it and go on, but it's ACTUALLY wrong...may God help you.
 

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robotv56 said:
I think the real problem here is that you got rejected by this chick, she's probably under the spell of another dude. And chances are, if you're my definition of a "nice guy" she should come around once she notices the jock she's going after is a total douche bag. Or if she doesn't notice she'll be living in hell for a wile.
oh i know. girl i was interested in was already dating a guy when i met her. still is. she's engaged now. guys is a complete asshole and an attention whore. not kidding and not exaggerating i knew him before i met her and thought this well before i liked her. hell he the only reason he proposed to her was because she was PISSED at him and was IGNORING him. went to the movies with her once with a group of friends he wasn't in town a the time, went to eat after the movie and the meal was her complaining about the shit he pulls with her. and how she writes it down sometimes like a diary to relive stress and has several FULL NOTE BOOKS of just that. i have met to meet a friend of hers that hasn't told her he may not be right for her.

needles to say i'm a bit bitter about that.
 

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Being the nice guy has always left me in the friend zone, but it's also caused me to miss some opportunity between asking people out.

Case and Point, I dont share my feelings with others, but others always share feelings with me, causing me to feel closer. But when Guy A tells me he likes Girl B, And i also like Girl B, I put my feelings in a bottle and leave them aside and give full support to Guy A.

Leaving me to the time old saying of "Nice guys finish last."

/thought if i were first in a race would i actually give it up to someone who desperately needed it? Ans: I dont know...
 

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Kurokami said:
FrostyChick said:
Nope, I'm not a "nice guy". ;)

As for what women find attractive in men, well I don't find anything attractive in men.

Yay me for being super helpful!
That's cold!
Well best to be direct now, than crush your hopes later.

I mean wouldn't you rather be told the hot chick is a lesbian straight away than get to know her, develop a crush on her only to find out she's genetically programmed to not be interested in you?
 

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I'm a decent enough guy, but I punctuate it with enough asshole that I don't come across as a "nice guy."

I'm more of a jerk with a heart of gold. Not how I would have put it, but that's what one of my friends described me as once.

I prefer "Bastard coated bastard with bastard filling." XD
 

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Glass Joe the Champ said:
Hey guys, just asked a lady friend out today, and I got the whole "You a really nice guy, but..." speech about "not wanting to ruin our friendship" and inevitably ended with "...but I still want to stay friends." [small](Except she's going to avoid me like the plague from now on, so it's not like we're really going to stay friends)[/small] Story of my life...

[/useless whining]

Anyway, is anyone else here a "nice guy" in other people's eyes? By "nice guy" I mean someone who tries to be courteous and polite to everyone, but comes off having no confidence or masculinity. Someone who has a lot of friends that are girls, but no girlfriend. Someone who when they like a girl, makes the mistake of becoming their close platonic friend because they're too timid to ask them out. Someone who lets other people walk all over them in an attempt to please everyone. Ect, ect...

[small](In some circles, this is also known as being a "huge, spineless pussy".)[/small]

I've been trying to get rid of the "nice guy" persona for some time now and be more confident and assertive, but I keep falling back into old habits. Does anyone else have this problem? And to the .01% of this site that are women, what exactly is bad or unattractive about "nice guys" anyway?

Oh, and sorry if this topic's been done to death. I couldn't find anything on the search bar, but I have a feeling it's been done before.
I'm a nice guy, and I got lucky and now have an amazing girlfriend, in fact it was our 2 year anniversery last week
 

artanis_neravar

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FrostyChick said:
Kurokami said:
FrostyChick said:
Nope, I'm not a "nice guy". ;)

As for what women find attractive in men, well I don't find anything attractive in men.

Yay me for being super helpful!
That's cold!
Well best to be direct now, than crush your hopes later.

I mean wouldn't you rather be told the hot chick is a lesbian straight away than get to know her, develop a crush on her only to find out she's genetically programmed to not be interested in you?
...is this a trick question? If I answer this honestly are people going to jump out of white vans and kidnap me?
 
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The following may be difficult for some folks to grasp:

First off, women often like nice guys. Which is to say, they like those of us who have cultured within ourselves a modicum of civility, who take the ethic of reciprocity seriously, and give an even regard to others. This is far from being, as Glass Joe the Champ suggests, a huge, spineless pussy, but merely a gentleman.

However, they like sincerity [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sincerity] more. A jackass who treats a woman as an equal (and is a jackass to everybody equally) is favorable to a guy who is nice to her because from his perspective she's a vagina connected to a life-support system. (Consider those women who are nice to you, but regard you as a cash cow. How appealing are they?)

It comes down to this: we all want to be regarded as human beings, as equals. And many of us are so desperate to get laid (or to get a meal ticket) that to protect ourselves from such people, we've developed a great deal of (healthy) suspicion about the motives of otherwise desirable strangers. Much of our flirting and courtship is determining whether or not the other person is being genuine, only after which is compatibility considered.

So, Glass Joe, if you're nice to people to get in their favor (and later their pants), quit it. Figure out who you really are, and learn to be comfortable with that. (If you turn out to be cruel, angry and embittered, then you might want to work on your attitude, but that's a different matter entirely). But if you're a nice guy because you're just inclined towards cordial, polite behavior, keep it up and a worthy girl (or five) will eventually work this out and snatch you up. (Of course, you have to be in places where you meet new people. Loners like me don't get propositioned much.)

Secondly, women are as human as men. Which is to say that young women often don't know what they want any more than men do (other than to have sex with a healthy partner). Here in the United States, we are terrible at preparing our young people for intimate relationships or in the art of choosing prospective partners. Rather, they are usually left learning by trial-and-error what kind of girl / boy would be good match and they end up getting burned a lot. That said, you may be rejected by a woman who is otherwise a perfectly good match because she's not ready, has been hurt too recently, and presumes that all guys are unworthy. Don't take that personally.

But to surmise that being nice makes you look weak, or that women generally prefer jerks both oversimplify a much more complicated paradigm.

238U.
 

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I've been told I'm a nice guy before multiple times (mainly by the same people). I can be very helpful and respectful. Mainly I'm just honest and I mean very honest! I usually lie to the people that are complete assholes to me.
 
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*face palm*
I find if you're trying to attract the opposite sex, moping around feeling sorry for yourself doesnt help you "nice guys" much
 

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Frankster said:
There was a time when I a nice guy, thank god I managed to man up and see the pusiness of my ways.

J03bot said:
I was. Now I'm an asshole. It's not much fun. Trying to find a middle ground somewhere. (Yes, it is possible to realise that you've become a worse person. It's a horrible revelation)
Being honest with ourselves is a good step on the road to becoming a better person ^^

draconiansundae said:
Rarhnor said:
Don't get rid of the "niceguy" persona. You stick with it. Ladies love the dorky nice guy.
Indeed. Some of us really do.
Wouldn't you agree you're in a tiny minority though? I've certainly never seen it happening in rl.
I've seen it, experienced it even.

A friend of mine got approached by a long lost classmate, and asked my friend out...just like that.

Another acquaintance was in the middle of discussion with a bartender (he never goes to bars by the way) about jokes on quantum physics, when a random girl mentioned something in context to the discussion, and after the discussion, they went on a midnight-stroll-date, like 3 hours later.

Both quirky and sort of "clumsy" individuals.

I've been come on to as well, by being dorky and just...nice. My teacher requested that she'd carpool with a classmate, to pick up some hardware material for our architect class. I seriously did nothing, but talk to the receptionist about the order, and swiftly commenting on more "soon-to-come youth visitors, hungry for wood", which he interpreted as a lewd remark, which resulted in my own embarrassment.
The girl, who carpooled with us, turned out to be an aspiring model, taking architect classes to fall back on in the future, and indiscreetly interested in me, putting her hand on my shoulder and asking for name, and other personal stuff.
('Course i couldn't take responsibility for her interest, as I was soon to move to Japan for an extended period of time, and felt it would be unfair, if I began dating her only to bail 3 months later.


Some inspiring stories for my fellow brothers across the globe.
 

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FrostyChick said:
Nope, I'm not a "nice guy". ;)

As for what women find attractive in men, well I don't find anything attractive in men.

Yay me for being super helpful!
I loled...

Fine, you can can choose from these super special questions since none of this pertains to you:

Do you think the King's Speech deserved to win best picture?

Does Jon Huntsman have a chance to win the Republican primary?

Is killing always justified in the name of self defense?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 

TheJesus89

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lol no. People genuinely like me, but not because I'm nice.

I'm actually kind of a dick. But the funny kind of dick. It's not like I just shit on the nerdy kids, and it's never for anything serious. I shit on all kids of all shapes and sizes.

So no, I'm not a "nice guy". But yes, I am an equal rights shitter.
 

Yopaz

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A nice guy by your definition? No. I am quite masculine and I think I appear confident (though I'm not). I'm a nice guy in the way that I can make almost any girl blush by my compliments and I am rarely downright rude in any way except for when I am joking. So I think I am considered nice, but not a spineless pussy. I'm not even considered anti-social which is a surprise.
 
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Glass Joe the Champ said:
Anyway, is anyone else here a "nice guy" in other people's eyes? By "nice guy" I mean someone who tries to be courteous and polite to everyone, but comes off having no confidence or masculinity.
Yup. Yup yup yuppity yup. I'm usually super polite and nice and stuff, and I'm REALLY too freakin spineless (I usually feel uncomfortable even going "no, guys, I DON'T want to go for freaking sushi, can't we just grab a spaghetti at that place across the street instead?"). And it doesn't help that I've only just now (after 5 years) developed a normal level of self esteem, and that I have no muscle mass to speak of.

So Yeah, I think I fall into that category.

Someone who has a lot of friends that are girls, but no girlfriend. Someone who when they like a girl, makes the mistake of becoming their close platonic friend because they're too timid to ask them out. Someone who lets other people walk all over them in an attempt to please everyone. Ect, ect...
That happened to me a LOT back in the day. I once made the mistake of getting attracted to a girl only to find out she was ENGAGED right as I was working up the nerve to ask her out.

But, about 6 months ago, I hit the jackpot and got in a relationship with the nicest gamer girl in the history of Canada. And despite her being uber nice and sensitive, she's always shocked and amazed by me just doing normally nice things for her. So she appreciates me being the "nice guy"

...But honestly, the older you get, the more women will look at the nice guys. As women get older, they want stability. They want someone they can trust will have their back. So you'll find someone eventually, don't sweat it.

I've been trying to get rid of the "nice guy" persona for some time now and be more confident and assertive, but I keep falling back into old habits. Does anyone else have this problem? And to the .01% of this site that are women, what exactly is bad or unattractive about "nice guys" anyway?
I wouldn't say to get rid of the nice guy persona. Just start trying to be a bit more assertive. If you don't' like something, just say it. If you've got an opinon, opine! If someone is doing something stupid or being a dick, call them out on it. Don't be afraid to make yourself heard. And above all, don't self doubt yourself for every little !@#$ing thing. That'll just make you paranoid.

Once you take those steps, your self confidence will start to improve, and you'll find things that much easier.

Getting rid of the "nice guy" persona is not the solution. Rather, the solution is to build up your confidence so that you can still be a nice guy without appearing timid and shy.
 

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Frankster said:
There was a time when I a nice guy, thank god I managed to man up and see the pusiness of my ways.

J03bot said:
I was. Now I'm an asshole. It's not much fun. Trying to find a middle ground somewhere. (Yes, it is possible to realise that you've become a worse person. It's a horrible revelation)
Being honest with ourselves is a good step on the road to becoming a better person ^^

draconiansundae said:
Rarhnor said:
Don't get rid of the "niceguy" persona. You stick with it. Ladies love the dorky nice guy.
Indeed. Some of us really do.
Wouldn't you agree you're in a tiny minority though? I've certainly never seen it happening in rl.
I would completely disagree with this, I know plenty of woman who love the dorky nerdy guy, you just need to hang out in the right clouds, don't go to a dance club to find a nerdy girl, go to PAXeast.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
FrostyChick said:
Well best to be direct now, than crush your hopes later.

I mean wouldn't you rather be told the hot chick is a lesbian straight away than get to know her, develop a crush on her only to find out she's genetically programmed to not be interested in you?
...is this a trick question? If I answer this honestly are people going to jump out of white vans and kidnap me?
Well after thinking it through, it's more a question of would you like to dream but hurt or not dream and never experience pain?

Which is a lot more difficult a question than I intended...

Glass Joe the Champ said:
I loled...

Fine, you can can choose from these super special questions since none of this pertains to you:

Do you think the King's Speech deserved to win best picture?

Does Jon Huntsman have a chance to win the Republican primary?

Is killing always justified in the name of self defense?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I haven't seen it, but from what I've heard (and not just from Movie Bob) it was one of those movies that were made specifically to get that award regardless what the general public thought.

I don't follow American politics. (Me being from Scotland.)

If you are clearly physically capable of subduing your opponent without killing them, then you shouldn't kill them. Killing in self defence is only justifiable if it's the only remaining option.

I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.
 

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Frankster said:
Wouldn't you agree you're in a tiny minority though? I've certainly never seen it happening in rl.
No, I don't think so. Most of my female friends who are in relationships have very nice boyfriends. Whenever I have been interested in someone who turned out the be a jerk, I lost interest very quickly.
 

pppppppppppppppppp

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FrostyChick said:
I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.
Yyyyyyeah.........

Right back at you, buddy...