Are you freakin' kidding me?

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daveman247

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At the beginning of the article the journo wrote "kicks the woman's ass". Should I be offended for the allusion to domestic abuse?

To be honest I'm more offended at articles STILL referring to gamers, computer guys etc as geeks and nerds :p
 

Varrdy

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Yet another shining example of people looking for excuses to get all pissy, no matter how hard they have to dig, twist or distort.

The sad part is that their screams of "RAAAAAPE!" only serve to do more harm to real victims - I'm thinking the "Cry Wolf" effect here. I'm not condoning anything but people who put such effort into finding things to be pissed off about really do need a slap. With a shovel.

Besides, if it was so obviously scripted, as the writer states, wouldn't that mean that what the two gamers said was also scripted?
 

ramboondiea

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how the hell is that a rape joke? if anything it was an accurate statement of fact? sure you can infer it however the hell you want, just dont go claiming its something just because you think it is! kjahkbfyiagfliyvgaliavfyihga <--angry word jumble!

it annoys me how the article says that ofcourse the guy is winning because she was playing like a "girl" and that this is somehow indicative of discrimination and belittling women, and yet if it was the women winning you would have a bunch of people claiming its some form of affirmative action, grrr.

I swear some people like to just fish for controversy, and we dont need anymore of that, we have enough, we don't need people making up more
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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In a competitive setting that is about reaction time, skills (as in memorization of game mechanics and specific, often lengthy series of button presses) and generally heightened levels of awareness, 'rape' might be a word that is often used, belittled but not truly misappropriated.

However, in this setting, it's not the first thing that springs to mind, and I consider myself to be on the rather intimate you-and-you level with rape.

If my skills are obviously bigger than your skills,
if I am clearly better than you,

I pummel you,
I smash your face in,
I humiliate you,
I dominate you
I degrade you,
I finish you,
I kill you.

Not for real, though. It's just a game, see. It's fun! Trust me. It really is fun. I can't tell you how many hours of Tekken (pretty much each incarnation ever since the first one came out) I've accumulated so far, but we started out printing, what, text lists of moves we downloaded from BBS's and ftp sites, and we sat in some random fellow players living room, playing Tekken for hours upon hours until we got a firm grip on the characters we liked. After all these years, I still do Paul, Nina and King, because I can still string up all the fun combos. Somehow, I eventually lost grip on Yoshimitsu, but I'm still a clear and present danger to your health bar with a rough 20% of his combos and cheap shots.

In a mostly male dominated world (yeah, there, I said it), I enjoyed playing Street Fighter II or Tekken around the world, playing for an hour or even longer just on one quarter while males honourable and not that honourable wouldn't take losing to a girl/woman/ladyperson well. I had my damn fun, and, trust me, some of them I raped pretty well. Raping a prick feels really good, take it from me, if you so will.

I was dabbling in open warfare feminism for a while. I thought it was the right thing to do. The very moment I realized that a lot of folks go down on the declared enemy with the elegance of the Iranian Guardian Council and the manners and self control of your average mushroom-induced berserker rage Viking Fury of Doom, I stopped having fun. Well, that sort of innocent fun, direct action, dreaming of a better tomorrow and giving innocent folks a hard time for all their life's decisions, the way they walk, the way they talk - that whole intolerant Nazi asshole crap, really.

I don't think 'rape' was the word they wanted you to think of.

So, why not swallow a little book of calm and come up with better, less offensive words.

I have some for you, above. I'll repeat the ones that seem to fit best:

humiliate

dominate

degrade

PUNISH

Sure, I won't use them when playing, say, Flower or Journey. But even Puzzle Bobble lets me boil my blood and make me want to gouge your eyes out, all in a family-friendly setting and right before we skip to making babies, baking a cake or having a nice cup of tea.

Those are household words that usually wear their meaning and true intention right on their imaginary sleeves, right as the sounds are muttered and the letters written.

Humans and a whole lot of other animals have eventually adopted to go for sexual dimorphism. In some species, the differences are dramatic and, quite frankly, offputting and damn scary. In humans, I find our differences to be interesting, fun and OK. Even if we had peanut-sized brains and no language, we'd still be made up of fuckers and the fucked. There's nothing bad about that. So, chill, sister, chill. There's plenty of stuff to get riled up about, this here is not a good excuse to blow up in anybody's face.
 

KOMega

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People seem to associate the phrase "Just let it happen, it will be over soon" with rape, or maybe one person did and cried out and now everybody does.

The phrase was totally taken out of context coupled with the fact that microsoft is kind of on the bad end of the PR stick at the moment.

The whole thing seemed completely scripted (maybe not word for word, but like the guy's instructions were just "insert trash talk here") especially since they each took a turn beating each other up in the game, whilst they talk about a feature of the Xbox.

I know we all (I hope) strive to make the gaming world a friendly and approachable, but we can't cry foul at every small harmless spot that is at best tangentially related to something we don't like.
It's like trying to scrub a floor completely clean whenever even a spec of dust touches it.
Not only is that unnecessary, but everyone's just going to slip and fall the moment they touch it.

I don't like the xbox and I'll be there throwing insults and jokes at it, but only where it deserved it.
 

nevarran

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"you know, like a rape?"
No, I don't. I've never raped a person.

My association was with an unpleasant medical intervention. But if rape's what you fancy...
 

Epidemiix

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Called it!
Well sort of. As soon as he said that, I figured that someone was going to take incredible offense at it.
And then I imagined a sound. A sound like dozens of writers typing furiously on their keyboards in complaint. XD

Anyway! On topic, I don't think it was meant like that. At least I hope it wasn't. It was an attempt at fake playful trash talk from a person who brought his own controller to the game-play demo thing (tryhard :p). I doubt that there was any "rape" kind of meaning to it when he said.

Though he could have said something better....seriously....he needs better trash talk.
 

Hazy

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The only rape that went on was how hard Sony gave it to Microsoft at that press conference.

[HEADING=1]Am I right people?[/HEADING]
 

Glongpre

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Epidemiix said:
Anyway! On topic, I don't think it was meant like that. At least I hope it wasn't. It was an attempt at fake playful trash talk from a person who brought his own controller to the game-play demo thing (tryhard :p). I doubt that there was any "rape" kind of meaning to it when he said.

Though he could have said something better....seriously....he needs better trash talk.
This.

Obviously it was not intentionally a rape joke. This reminds me of kids who always think whatever you are saying is sexual. I can't think of examples except for "that's what she said".
 

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People who probably have some strong believes and certain ideas, are relating everything with that and probably not on purpose. The writer took the trash talk as comments solely focused on the gender of the woman. While others took it as regular trash talk, where the gender had no relevance. But reading this, she presumes that her view is correct and the only one that is possible.

And didn't the woman kick his ass after that?
You guys know this shit was rigged right? To show how the shit works ? With sharing with friends and playing on twitch tv?
 

McKinsey

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Okay, let's concede that this was an intentional rape joke. So what? It's still a joke, and even if you don't find it funny, someone definitely will. I think it's funny, alright. I don't happen to rape people, by the way, and I don't even trash-talk during online matches.
Come on. When did censoring jokes become a normal thing to do? I wonder how this lot would react to Ricky Gervais's sketch about Hitler and Nietzsche. He dared to made a joke about Holocaust?! Oh, no he didn't! Let's lynch the dude this instant! Let's also ban South Park while we're at it...
 

RoBi3.0

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Do you know what find interesting. Once a week Law and Order SVU features someone usually a woman victimized beaten and more often then not murdered by a rapist, and no one posts thread bitching about it.

Yet someone makes a "rape joke" in what was obviously a heavily scripted stage show and the shit hits the fan.

I can't say I care, I just find it interesting.


Also on a slightly related note whoever was in charge of scripting all the on stage gameplay this year at E3 should be ashamed it was all quite terrible.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
Oh look, people taking something completely out of context and making it about rape.

Guess we need to have atleast on rape controversy a month. Even if it has absolutely nothing to do with rape.
No kidding ehhh he was clearly talking about beating her in the game and it had nothing to do with rape by any extent of imagination.
 

Kyber

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Is this a weekly thing now? Taking stuff out of context and yelling rape? It's getting old, really fast.
 

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Yeah. That comment was taken way out of context. I would be more concerned with just how EMBARASSING it was for the woman.

I mean seriously. Not only was the presentation dull, but it seems that she either didn't get a grasp on the controls long enough, or she just doesn't know how to play the game.

Like no one likes having their ass totally handed to them on a giant platform. Aside from the guy who was clearly a "pro" she didn't look like she was having any modicum of fun getting the beat down.

And no guys, it wasn't scripted.