Defense said:
Looks aren't everything. If you read the story, the Helghast are actually the "good guys", and the ISA are the people oppressing them. They just happened to take a page or two out of the Nazi handbook.
I see you're unfamiliar with the peace treaty that ended WW1. The Treaty of Versailles was crushingly, vengefully punishing to the Germans. When Woodrow Wilson put forth his fourteen points his attempt was to try to avoid another war, by commencing a conciliatory process. The europeans however would hear none of it. Sharp fines were imposed for the war, territory was seized from Germany and Germany broken up into several states. Furthermore, Germany was forbidden to trade with many countries, strict economic provisions, transportation restrictions and military limitations were also put into place, Prince Wilhelm was tried as a war criminal and they expected to pay reparations. The treaty beggered germany, beset them with hardship and fostered a desire for revenge in the German people. Wilson urged the leaders of europe to see reason and warned that this treaty would lead to another war. But they chose not to listen. If you had asked Germans who the good guys were going into WWII who do you think they would have told you?
As for the Helgahst I quote the wikipedia article here:
First Extrasolar War
With a pro-human military, industry and corruption controlling the planet's politics, many impoverished Helghans began to blame Humanity and the ISA for the hardships they have to endure and eventually started the First Extrasolar War. After several years of war, the Helghast were eventually defeated and left as a broken nation. Scolar Visari eventually emerged and took over as the leader of the Helghast and declared himself "Emperor Of The Helghast". He began ethnic cleansing programs throughout the Helghan system in an effort to wipe out any human sympathizers. He also began to rebuild the Helghast Army.
Come on. What does that sound like? Ethnic cleansing? He becomes Emperor, He rebuilds the army. What does this all sound like? Yes looks aren't everything, there's also the STORY to go off of.
IamSofaKingRaw said:
There are no imitators because shooters are trying to be different if you didn't notice. Crysis 2, Brink, Bulletstorm and Resistance 3 (oh and homefront) all have something unique about them. Why would people try to sell a blatant rip off of a game. Those types of things never sell well.
I don't know about that. I can think of a couple very big counterstrike imitators that have been selling in droves. (In case you didn't notice). Even Halo has an imitator in Section 8. And no I didn't notice because most of them aren't trying all that hard. Crysis has powers, nothing original there. Bulletstorm is just Unreal grafted onto Tony Hawk and Resistance 3 has... what? What are they doing that's so unique? I'll give you Brink for now.
Oh and the world vs the Nazis had no unrecognizable evil. The helghast are portrayed as 'nazis' but as you said they are simply resisting oppression from the ISA.Just because there eyes glow red doesn't mean they are Nazis in space. So no its not WWII in space. In KZ there is no true good side, (unless you believe the Nazis weren't evil somehow) its a totally unique story.
Read above. You're being a fanboy. Totally unique? I'm just gonna put it here again:
First Extrasolar War
With a pro-human military, industry and corruption controlling the planet's politics, many impoverished Helghans began to blame Humanity and the ISA for the hardships they have to endure and eventually started the First Extrasolar War. After several years of war, the Helghast were eventually defeated and left as a broken nation. Scolar Visari eventually emerged and took over as the leader of the Helghast and declared himself "Emperor Of The Helghast". He began ethnic cleansing programs throughout the Helghan system in an effort to wipe out any human sympathizers. He also began to rebuild the Helghast Army.
I'm going to ask you something, do you think the Nazi's considered themselves evil? It's not like they were walking around with glowing red eyes. That's got nothing to do with it. It's got more to do with the story itself which is, substituting planets for territory a pretty straight lift. You don't commit genocide and retain the mantle of righteousness. But it's not like the Allies in WWII were saints either, between the Europeans who brought the war on themselves and Stalin who was himself a mass murderer. This is not a defense of Germany. The reason you can sympathize with the Helghast however is because you are removed from their world's events. The decision to go to war was ultimately their own was it not?
Heck the plotline in the first Halos resembled that of the Nazis and WWII. The covenant were trying to eradicate humans from the universe and even tried coming to Earth to finish us off. The covenant resemble the Nazis more than the Helghast do.
Nothing at all like it. The reasons for the war were completely different. Actually the plot-line from the first halos was Inspired by Lain M Banks books.
Look familiar? You are perhaps very young and have a limited knowledge of things you are attempting to argue about. Please, be reasonable and think before you type. You can admit I have some valid points. It does you no harm to do so. In fact it only displays your intelligence and makes you seem rational. Now it is perfectly fair to say Killzone is a generic series. Even if you like it. But how about instead of simply attacking me, and being proven wrong (which also gets us nowhere as we can reiterate our positions ad infinitum), you exercise some critical thinking and tell me exactly what it does that is not generic?
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