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Goldbling

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I never usually buy games when they are first released, preferring to wait for a price drop. £40 for a game is just stupid, so prices of games are not putting me off particularly.

Hardware does occasionally need upgrading though, which can make me doubt the merits of PC gaming. Right now I'm trying to decide between this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-187-SP&tool=3] and this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-096-BG].

Anyone have any suggestions as to which would be the better purchase?
I like Nvidia a lot better, they have better quality and support.
 

NeutralMunchHotel

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I'm getting put off by the game crashing bugs and random back to desktop crashes.
Patches, consoles get bugs and break. PCs get bugs and patch it up.
Gilbert Munch said:
... because of the incredibly high costs? Or the fact that there's a chance that a game wont be able to work on your system? Because I sure as hell am.
*facepalm*
It doesn't have a high price if you know what are you doing and if you consulted someone before that. No, No, and No.
Read the game's requirements and you'll know if it'll work or not.
Simple, right?
I am not a 'hardcore gamer', and I don't honestly go out and plan on buying games for the PC for the simple fact that they don't run very well on my PC, and that is in turn because I can't afford it. What I mean is when I see a cheap PC game in a shop, I'm automatically turned off buying it since my PC wont run it well.

It's a (vicious?) circle that simply doesn't let me play PC games. Believe me, I've tried, but it just wont listen to me.
 

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Painkiller
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Unreal
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Halo PC
Half-Life 2 actually runs quite decent on my Nvidia 7050 piece of shit.
 

Wadders

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Goldbling said:
Wadders said:
I never usually buy games when they are first released, preferring to wait for a price drop. £40 for a game is just stupid, so prices of games are not putting me off particularly.

Hardware does occasionally need upgrading though, which can make me doubt the merits of PC gaming. Right now I'm trying to decide between this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-187-SP&tool=3] and this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-096-BG].

Anyone have any suggestions as to which would be the better purchase?
I like Nvidia a lot better, they have better quality and support.
Yeah, my previous 2 cards have been nVidia, I was just considering if a change would be worth it :S
 

Goldbling

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Wadders said:
Goldbling said:
Wadders said:
I never usually buy games when they are first released, preferring to wait for a price drop. £40 for a game is just stupid, so prices of games are not putting me off particularly.

Hardware does occasionally need upgrading though, which can make me doubt the merits of PC gaming. Right now I'm trying to decide between this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-187-SP&tool=3] and this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-096-BG].

Anyone have any suggestions as to which would be the better purchase?
I like Nvidia a lot better, they have better quality and support.
Yeah, my previous 2 cards have been nVidia, I was just considering if a change would be worth it :S
No I have a ATI Radeon 4870 and It sucks...
 

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Goldbling said:
Wadders said:
Goldbling said:
Wadders said:
I never usually buy games when they are first released, preferring to wait for a price drop. £40 for a game is just stupid, so prices of games are not putting me off particularly.

Hardware does occasionally need upgrading though, which can make me doubt the merits of PC gaming. Right now I'm trying to decide between this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-187-SP&tool=3] and this [http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-096-BG].

Anyone have any suggestions as to which would be the better purchase?
I like Nvidia a lot better, they have better quality and support.
Yeah, my previous 2 cards have been nVidia, I was just considering if a change would be worth it :S
No I have a ATI Radeon 4870 and It sucks...
I have ATI HD 4850 and I think it's awesome.
 

Wadders

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No I have a ATI Radeon 4870 and It sucks...
Haha, fair enough...

Whats so bad about it?

ph3onix said:
I have ATI HD 4850 and I think it's awesome.
Hmmmm, now this is why I cant decide what to get, everyone always tells me different things about them. I'm guessing the 4830 I might get is just a downscaled version of the 4850 you have?
 

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I remember my first 'gaming' computer could barely even run WoW. I share your pain. As far as games...try some old MP games like CS or Day of Defeat.
 

skwareballz

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I grew up playing on PC games with great shooters, adventure, and RPG games. Then one day this awful thing happened where everyone switched to a pay monthly game where you kill rats and other forest creatures for hours on end to upgrade an elf. After seeing everyone move toward MMOs I decided to abandon sitting ten inches from a screen and go to the couch where it was back to shooting aliens in the face.

Plus all those people with their 1080p high end machines don't realize that your eyes can't see all the real benifits of HD unless you are 6 ft away. I always here people talking about building a machine real cheap too, but that is like less than 1% of computer owners.
 
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Don't be put off take a look at your system and the needs of the game also runnign routine system maintence eg. disk defragmentors helps keep things running smoothly also you could always ask here for advice don't be put of by something silly like that and ou don't have to constantly upgrade your system just lower the game settings.
 

Goldbling

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Wadders said:
Goldbling said:
No I have a ATI Radeon 4870 and It sucks...
Haha, fair enough...

Whats so bad about it?

ph3onix said:
I have ATI HD 4850 and I think it's awesome.
Hmmmm, now this is why I cant decide what to get, everyone always tells me different things about them. I'm guessing the 4830 I might get is just a downscaled version of the 4850 you have?
I don't like It because it doesn't preform optimally on a 64-bit system and Catalyst sucks.
 

TheGreenManalishi

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Mainly mouse and keyboard gaming. I just can't adapt after using a pad all my life. Trust me, any gamepad, I can adapt really quickly, I have never got used to MaK.
 

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first off, while good, high end pcs do cost more than consoles, the FACT is that this "incredibly high cost" is a very big misconception. brands like xps and alienware are overpriced, ive built people computers that have the same parts as an alienware pc that costs $3000 for a little over a grand, and if you shop around or build your own (wich is actually very easy provided you have at least 2 working thumbs and at least 4 working fingers) a high end computer that will run pretty much any game at settings that destroy console graphics (including crysis) for as little as $500-600 US. furthermore, the "costant upgrade" thing is a misnomer as well, i sold my first computer to a friend a few years ago (built in 2005), pentium 4 3.0ghz, geforce 7800gt and its just now getting to the point where he has to default his games to low settings 4 YEARS AFTER IT WAS BUILT, but he can still run every game out there.

go on google and look up "myths of pc gaming".
 

Xanadu84

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For the price of a 360, you can get a computer that can run any game out there. Even Crysis. Sure, not on the highest setting, but so what? It will still look better then anything on a console. You also, generally, need a PC to do other stuff, whereas a console is (Mostly) limited to game-playing. And if you are in the know and can build your own PC, you are even better off.

The real difficulty in PC gaming is that unlike consoles, it is not idiot proof. There can be crashes, etc. That is a serious disadvantage. On the other hand, unless you need the latest games the second they come out all the time, PC gaming is much cheaper. From a gamer perspective, both platforms have strengths and weaknesses. From a marketability perspective, consoles win.
 

The_Prophet

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Wadders said:
Goldbling said:
No I have a ATI Radeon 4870 and It sucks...
Haha, fair enough...

Whats so bad about it?

ph3onix said:
I have ATI HD 4850 and I think it's awesome.
Hmmmm, now this is why I cant decide what to get, everyone always tells me different things about them. I'm guessing the 4830 I might get is just a downscaled version of the 4850 you have?
I don't really know. All I know is that I'm quite satisfied with this. Just make sure to ask more people.
 

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Gilbert Munch said:
... because of the incredibly high costs? Or the fact that there's a chance that a game wont be able to work on your system? Because I sure as hell am.
No, because the costs are not incredibly high. And there isn't a chance a game won't work on my system unless there's a problem with the game itself.

Gilbert Munch said:
I'm honestly scared to buy any PC games because of the fact that it wont work on my PC. I have a year old Vista (not a great start) which is already starting to look slow on the Sims 2, let alone 3 or any other game. Unless you're a PC gamer with a properly equipped computer, chances are most games wont run very well, if not at all.
If you have a year old machine that's struggling, it was either dirt cheap or you got ripped off on a mediocre pre-built. I'm guessing the second option is the more likely, in which case it's your own fault for making a poor purchase.

Gilbert Munch said:
The fact is, console gaming is safe - you know where you're at, and that with a slight performance and graphics reduction it will work 100% - unless there's a lazy developer, but that's beside the point.
Console gaming is simpler. If you lack any technical knowledge, navigating through the oceans of PC hardware and software can be hazardous. However, PC gamers enjoy more mods and flexibility, as well as a superior control scheme when it comes to strategy and RPG games. And that's before we even get started on the fact that the PC can be used for so much more than gaming.

Gilbert Munch said:
Also, as a slight side note, can someone reccomend some good games that will run on lower-end PCs - I really want to play games on my PC, I just don't have the money!
Define "lower-end". Some specs would be welcome...
 

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I'm put off by PC gaming, but not for the same reasons it seems. The cost of the system, while somewhat prohibitive isn't where my problem lies. Actually, it isn't even one single problem it's an entire list!

1) Fewer games are being produced for PC these days. Often, when a game is released on the PC, it is also released on the consoles. Of more than a dozen friends who regularly play games, only two of us actually keep our PC's up to date enough to play PC games, meaning I'm generally forced to play the game on a console if I want to play with my friends. I place greater value on playing with people I know than I do on a control set that I often prefer and toying with the dark powers of technological wizardry.

2) Even when things go well with a PC game (i.e. my system can handle the game), I am often forced to invoke the powers of demons in order to divine the magical combination of settings required to overcome the myriad technical glitches. With a console game I just pop the game into the drive and I'm off. As my free time becomes ever more valuable, this is becoming all the more important.

3) Finding a place to purchase PC games is becoming increasingly difficult. There was a time when any game retailer would have a good selection of PC games. These days, walking into the PC section of most game stores is like taking a trip back in time a half decade or more. I can find copies of the Diablo Battlechest but god forbid I can find a copy of Crysis. Digital distribution is an option, as is online purchases but since my time is fairly scarce these days I don't like spending a few days waiting for my game to arrive by mail or finish being delivered bit by bit via the internet.

4) With the exception of one person, everyone I know is forced to play console games due to the cost issue. Most people in my peer group don't have a large amount of disposable income, which means they won't have up-to-date hardware and they often are forced to purchase games on the used market. Since I value playing with people I know, many of my game and platform choices are made by others. My friends purchased L4D for the 360. In spite of the fact that I could play it on PC, I followed in their footsteps in order to play the game with them. This means that the only time I'm the one picking the platform is for games that no one in peer group is interested in, and generally these are things like RPG's and RTS games.
 

S.H.A.R.P.

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Like the OP I spend a fairly high amount on my PC one year ago. Unlike the OP, I can still play all the games with high settings. I suppose you are ripped off (a.k.a. you didn't build it yourself). I wouldn't change my PC for a console when hell freezes over.