Argued with a Sexist Today...

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Treeinthewoods

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Ah, the White Knight phenomenon is not just restricted to the internet/online gaming.

I'll bet she didn't sleep with him either.
 

TheSentinel

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You overreacted. I don't think he was reacting to the word you used specifically, but curse words in general. See, some people feel, oh, let's say, uncomfortable cursing like a sailor around members of the opposite sex. You don't need to get up in some dudes face because he asked you to tone down your language.
 

Oilerfan92

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I had a vaguely similar situation happen back in grade 12.

It was during the Winter Olympics in Vancouver and Canada had just won Gold in both Mens and Woman's hockey. We (my social class) were discussing it and I made a comment similar to "the mens team deserves more credit because mens hockey is more competitive and difficult". I didn't mean at in a "women suck at sports" way. It's just simply true that womens hockey is at a much lower level at this point. Their skill level is at a similar level to a male junior level team (this is atleast arguable because the womens team will go against canadian junior teams and it will be even) and there are only two really competitive countries (Canada and US. This is due to womens hockey being relatively new). My point being that womens hockey is nit as high level as mens (who actually hit and are better skilled) and have to deal with playing a tournament in the middle of a 82 game season. And that while both are heroes for the country, i didn't view it as fair for two gold meddle winning teams being considered equal due to resault rather than honest ability.

I never intended or ment for it to be seen as a sexist stance. I simply saw two teams of athletes, one playing in a MUCH higher level competition than the other, therefore I felt they deserved more credit.

Naturally many people acted like I was a exist pig who hates women who step out of the kitchen. Luckily at class had ADD and quickly moved on. But still, I was pissed that being someone who will openly admit that while I was at one point somewhat prejudicial, I believe in equality and that differences between people should be ones based on personal actions, not circumstance. But because I "dissed" a group of people who just so happen to be a group that is considered discriminated against they naturally assumed I was being sexist.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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TheSentinel said:
You overreacted. I don't think he was reacting to the word you used specifically, but curse words in general. See, some people feel, oh, let's say, uncomfortable cursing like a sailor around members of the opposite sex. You don't need to get up in some dudes face because he asked you to tone down your language.
Well, he didn't really asked since he was yelling, but what really pissed me off was when he segregated this one girl he had never even met, making her and the rest of us feel really uncomfortable. And, if he was annoyed with my curse words in general, then he would have pretty much been saying that women, poor delicate souls that they are, can't handle the repugnance of a single curse word.

I dunno, either way it sounds like sexism, and it was uncalled for. Like I said, if he had come to me personally and asked me if I would be cautious with my words, I would have obliged him. That wasn't what he did. Trust me, if you know me (at least not on the internet :D) I'm the last person to get confrontational with. It would take a lot to get me to trade heated words with someone.
 

TheSentinel

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I'm just saying, I wasn't there, but I can understand this guys position. Ever seen Mr. Deeds? The scene where he punches the guy in the face for cursing in front of Winona Ryder? Kinda like that.

EDIT: Wow, guy above me. You sure are EDGY and FRESH. Can you teach me how to be just as FRESH and EDGY as you?
 

TheDrunkNinja

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TheSentinel said:
I'm just saying, I wasn't there, but I can understand this guys position. Ever seen Mr. Deeds? The scene where he punches the guy in the face for cursing in front of Winona Ryder? Kinda like that.

EDIT: Wow, guy above me. You sure are EDGY and FRESH. Can you teach me how to be just as FRESH and EDGY as you?
Yeah, I understand it as well. He really could have handled it in a better, more civilized manner. He had good intentions, he just needs to understand when and when not to be confrontational. This was not one of those time, and he really made a fool out of himself for it.

Karim Saad said:
Normally, it's chicks and blacks who act that way, is he a ginger?
 

jamradar

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Congrats, you handled it much better than I would have. In arguments over stupid little stuff like this I would not stop until he either walked away or gave into me and admitted he was wrong. He was really the only one offended (or at least pretended to be) by what you said. But he then proceeds to tell other people what they are and are not offended by, that pisses me off.
 

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Gigaguy64 said:
Ehh, i can understand him as well.
But he was a jerk for reacting the way he did.

It just comes from the mindset that women cant speak up for themselves, and its also some people have been raised to be extra respectful around women.
Doesn't mean they are sexist, its just the way they were raised and sometimes its hard to break habits you formed as a kid.

As for me, iv never really come across someone like that.
Of course when you're raised mostly on the internet your perception of everything is
WEEEIIIIRRRDDDD........
 

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TheDrunkNinja said:
TheSentinel said:
I'm just saying, I wasn't there, but I can understand this guys position. Ever seen Mr. Deeds? The scene where he punches the guy in the face for cursing in front of Winona Ryder? Kinda like that.

EDIT: Wow, guy above me. You sure are EDGY and FRESH. Can you teach me how to be just as FRESH and EDGY as you?
Yeah, I understand it as well. He really could have handled it in a better, more civilized manner. He had good intentions, he just needs to understand when and when not to be confrontational. This was not one of those time, and he really made a fool out of himself for it.

Karim Saad said:
Normally, it's chicks and blacks who act that way, is he a ginger?
LOLOL.

Anyway, doesn't sound like a sexist.. just a loud mouth idiot.
 

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Necromancist said:
will1182 said:
He wasn't really being sexist, he was just being an idiot. I don't think he really did anything to offend either sex. I can see where you're coming from, but that's not what I would call it.

And I applaud you for not yelling back and starting a fight like so many others would have done. I think I can see who the real gentleman was in this situation.
A-hem.

*Brushes off suit*

*Straightens tie*

Gentlemen.
i see what you did there
 

crudus

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I have done this before. I create a scene just for the hell of it. I am a troll in real life. You would be shocked at just how easy it is.

TheDrunkNinja said:
Let me just say, if she had come to me and told me that I was being offensive to her, I would have apologized without hesitation, even if I didn't exactly agree that the context of the word was offensive to her or not. Hell, if he had come up to me and spoke in a clam and considerate manner that he didn't appreciate my language, I would have readily obliged.
This is where you and I are different. I don't apologize for saying a word that is arbitrarily considered "offensive" or "vulgar".
 

TheDrunkNinja

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crudus said:
I have done this before. I create a scene just for the hell of it. I am a troll in real life. You would be shocked at just how easy it is.

TheDrunkNinja said:
Let me just say, if she had come to me and told me that I was being offensive to her, I would have apologized without hesitation, even if I didn't exactly agree that the context of the word was offensive to her or not. Hell, if he had come up to me and spoke in a clam and considerate manner that he didn't appreciate my language, I would have readily obliged.
This is where you and I are different. I don't apologize for saying a word that is arbitrarily considered "offensive" or "vulgar".
Trust me, in real life, I'm not confrontational by a long shot. My friends joke about how I'm a saint. But if we met in real life, the moment I knew you were trollin' me, I'd be more than a match for you. >:D
 

Snotnarok

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Girls are helpless creatures that need a man to protect them. Didn't you hear in the 1800's they were worried trains would scare them to death? Simple minded creatures, that need a MAN to protect them. I've never ONCE seen a woman do anything special like you know go to space or speak up. They can't speak up if they're offended or do protests.

^Is being sarcastic, and not serious, and protecting self from misunderstandings.

Seriously, people are morons, if this guy did what he did to my sister? She'd wreck him in more ways than one. She scored second highest in NYU and got the presidents award, and rules her house with an iron fist. She doesn't need protecting. I've seen men that need protecting, like the fellow mentioned here, he'll get stepped on if he's not careful.
 

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Gigaguy64 said:
Ehh, i can understand him as well.
But he was a jerk for reacting the way he did.

It just comes from the mindset that women cant speak up for themselves, and its also some people have been raised to be extra respectful around women.
Doesn't mean they are sexist, its just the way they were raised and sometimes its hard to break habits you formed as a kid.

As for me, iv never really come across someone like that.
Treating women differently from men because they are women is sexist. I don't care about the context, or how you were raised. These are just excuses. EDIT: So the next time you see a woman punch a man, and he doesn't punch back, call him a "sexist" or a "pussy" (because he certainly is one of these things).

That being said, it is nearly impossible to NOT be sexist. Most people treat the genders differently for one reason or another. Personally, I tend to show preferential treatment towards females because I find them more atractive and pleasant to be around than men.
 

crudus

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TheDrunkNinja said:
Trust me, in real life, I'm not confrontational by a long shot. My friends joke about how I'm a saint. But if we met in real life, the moment I knew you were trollin' me, I'd be more than a match for you. >:D
The problem is I am subtle. I trolled an English prof of mine for an entire semester before she figured it out.

Snotnarok said:
Girls are helpless creatures that need a man to protect them. Didn't you hear in the 1800's they were worried trains would scare them to death? Simple minded creatures, that need a MAN to protect them. I've never ONCE seen a woman do anything special like you know go to space or speak up. They can't speak up if they're offended or do protests.
And remember: if they don't wear rollers in bed they are clinically insane. I follow the DSM I because it was done right!

[small]clearly sarcasm[/small]
 

Snotnarok

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crudus said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
Trust me, in real life, I'm not confrontational by a long shot. My friends joke about how I'm a saint. But if we met in real life, the moment I knew you were trollin' me, I'd be more than a match for you. >:D
The problem is I am subtle. I trolled an English prof of mine for an entire semester before she figured it out.

Snotnarok said:
Girls are helpless creatures that need a man to protect them. Didn't you hear in the 1800's they were worried trains would scare them to death? Simple minded creatures, that need a MAN to protect them. I've never ONCE seen a woman do anything special like you know go to space or speak up. They can't speak up if they're offended or do protests.
And remember: if they don't wear rollers in bed they are clinically insane. I follow the DSM I because it was done right!

[small]clearly sarcasm[/small]
Rollers?! You sexist bastard! You forgot the skin cream!