Argued with a Sexist Today...

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Sonofadiddly

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You're right about that guy being sexist. There's actually a specific term for the kind of sexism that compels a man to run around acting like women can't defend or speak up for themselves and that they have to be sheltered from naughty words as if we women could suffer an attack of hysteria at such an utterance and die on the spot.

It's called "benevolent sexism." Also known as BS.

If I'd been that girl he'd singled out, I would have started yelling random cuss words with my middle fingers in the air until he left.
 

Snotnarok

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Booze Zombie said:
Snotnarok said:
Girls are helpless creatures that need a man to protect them. Didn't you hear in the 1800's they were worried trains would scare them to death? Simple minded creatures, that need a MAN to protect them. I've never ONCE seen a woman do anything special like you know go to space or speak up. They can't speak up if they're offended or do protests.

^Is being sarcastic, and not serious, and protecting self from misunderstandings.

Seriously, people are morons, if this guy did what he did to my sister? She'd wreck him in more ways than one. She scored second highest in NYU and got the presidents award, and rules her house with an iron fist. She doesn't need protecting. I've seen men that need protecting, like the fellow mentioned here, he'll get stepped on if he's not careful.
Damn it, you got in all the snark and the points I wanted to get in as well.

And I here I was thinking my mind was original...

Oh well!
I'm sarcastic and use it to full effect.

You're as original as you think you are, except when you're not, then you could be confused, like I am since I don't know where I was going with this!
 

Sonofadiddly

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drummond13 said:
You yelled the word "pussy" really loudly and this guy noticed it seemed to bother someone. He then told you to stop. You responded by calling him a sexist because the person he noticed bothered by your behavior happened to be a woman and he pointed this out.

I mean, I wasn't there. Maybe the way he said his piece was rude. But just from your description of the story it honestly sounds like you were kind of an ass.
The guy in question specifically told the OP to stop because there were women present. The girl he pointed to expressed that she didn't mind the swearing. Sounds sexist to me.
 

Hawksword192

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Sounds like you were just being a jackass and he decided he was courageous enough to point it out. Whether it was effectual is a different situation altogether but the main point is still valid.
 

iLikeHippos

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Yeah, people tend to think they are right in every way if they can just speak words.

Laugh, turn, ignore. The combo is super effective against them!
 

Something Amyss

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TheDrunkNinja said:
Yet another "Here's what happened to me today," thread.

I was on my college campus in what can basically be called a lounge room where people come to sit, relax, do work, hang out, all that stuff. My friends and I were hanging around when I started arguing with a friend of mine about something very minor. Now, he wasn't the sexist I'm talking about. It got to the point where I said the word "pussy", the slang word for wimp, not the cat or organ. We immediately stop when I hear some guy yelling behind me. I'm half deaf, so I turned around to see him staring at me with a freaked out face and asked him what he said.

He tells again me, "Watch your language, there are women present."

I stop for a moment, as it took me a second to understand what in the hell he meant. He says that I'm offending people and then points to one of the girls in the room, who only looked up from her book when he started yelling. That's right. He singled this poor girl out (despite there were plenty of other girls in the room, one of which was my friend who was sitting right next to me) and said that I was offending her.

Confused, she only states awkwardly, "Um, I'm alright..." It's at this point where I respond to him with the first thing that pops into my mind, "Uh, that's kinda sexist." He looks at me like he's gonna get all up in my face and says, "Excuse me?!" in a tone reflecting an adult scolding a kid for back-sass. I say again with more resolve, "That's really sexist."

We have it out, never getting out of our seats, and eventually I just turn around and ignore his attacks. Really, I get where he was coming from, and I'm sure he had fine, chivalrous intentions, but the way he went about it was extremely sexist, pure and simple. He didn't need to tell that girl what she should and shouldn't be feeling, especially since she didn't care to begin with. He shouldn't have even singled her out when there were plenty of other girls including my friend in the room. What's worse is that I was using the term in a completely different manner that had nothing to do with women in the first place, but he was the one who equated the dirty term to a woman. You had to be there, but the way he said women really perturbed me. He didn't say lady or anything that showed a hint of respect, he spoke as if she couldn't even comprehend or defend herself from my offending.

Let me just say, if she had come to me and told me that I was being offensive to her, I would have apologized without hesitation, even if I didn't exactly agree that the context of the word was offensive to her or not. Hell, if he had come up to me and spoke in a clam and considerate manner that he didn't appreciate my language, I would have readily obliged. Instead, he starts yelling at me across the room, causing utter silence as people stopped what they were doing, then proceeded to single one girl out that he didn't even know, telling me what she was feeling.

This guy pissed me off, he pissed my friends off (half of which are girls!), and I'm pretty sure he disgusted everyone who was in the room at the time based on the looks on everyone's faces.

Well, that's the end of it. Discussion value? Eh, I dunno, I just really wanted to rant about this. How about we just trade stories about our own experience with sexist douchebags?
I know this isn't going to be popular here, but calling someone a pussy is inherently sexist language. It's not particularly surprising that a lot of the most offensive language is related to women. Women are considered inferior; weak, not as smart, less desirable (except, of course, sexually), etc.

I know everyone's so caught up in hating the PC bogeyman that they get caught up in their right to be as offensive as possible, but maybe you should actually take responsibility for the things that come out of your mouth. Maybe he wasn't right to call you out on a woman being present, but we've got to a point where people are being offended by being called out on offensive language and that's a little ridiculous.

It's not hard to take a little responsibility for the things you do say in public. I know it's awful, but you have the power. Instead of crying foul, maybe consider that your words may impact other people. You know, not try and shift the blame to others.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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Zachary Amaranth said:
I know this isn't going to be popular here, but calling someone a pussy is inherently sexist language. It's not particularly surprising that a lot of the most offensive language is related to women. Women are considered inferior; weak, not as smart, less desirable (except, of course, sexually), etc.

I know everyone's so caught up in hating the PC bogeyman that they get caught up in their right to be as offensive as possible, but maybe you should actually take responsibility for the things that come out of your mouth. Maybe he wasn't right to call you out on a woman being present, but we've got to a point where people are being offended by being called out on offensive language and that's a little ridiculous.

It's not hard to take a little responsibility for the things you do say in public. I know it's awful, but you have the power. Instead of crying foul, maybe consider that your words may impact other people. You know, not try and shift the blame to others.
I'm inherently a very responsible person, as well as one that is not confrontational (my friends poke fun at me by calling me a "saint" for this). Like I said in my first post, if he or the girl or anybody had come up to me and asked me to be more careful with my language as not to offend people, I would apologize and oblige them, regardless of whether or not I would disagree as to my "right" to be offensive. The manner in which he did this was uncalled for. He yelled at me and my friends across a room. He segregated a bystander that didn't need to be dragged into his business with me. Also, it was just the way he said "women" that truly perturbed me. It made "sexist" come to my mind first. Perhaps I misdiagnosed the problem--a lot of people don't think he was a sexist, others do. It doesn't matter because he chose to be uncivil with me, as if he thought I couldn't be civil with him.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
I know this isn't going to be popular here, but calling someone a pussy is inherently sexist language. It's not particularly surprising that a lot of the most offensive language is related to women. Women are considered inferior; weak, not as smart, less desirable (except, of course, sexually), etc.

I know everyone's so caught up in hating the PC bogeyman that they get caught up in their right to be as offensive as possible, but maybe you should actually take responsibility for the things that come out of your mouth. Maybe he wasn't right to call you out on a woman being present, but we've got to a point where people are being offended by being called out on offensive language and that's a little ridiculous.

It's not hard to take a little responsibility for the things you do say in public. I know it's awful, but you have the power. Instead of crying foul, maybe consider that your words may impact other people. You know, not try and shift the blame to others.
Bullshit. Every person is solely responsible for what they do and how they react to circumstances. You'll never be forced to "feel offended", or get angry, and you'll certainly never be forced to act on such emotions.

The argument that it's the speaking person who should take responsibility is not a tenable position since it basically absolves the other person of responsibility for what they do in response.

Much better for the global population to collectively grow a sack and stop feeling so sensitive about trivialities. Everyone has a right to their opinion and they have a right to express it. You don't have to listen and you most definitely don't have to care.
 

EeveeElectro

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Why was he listening into your conversation in the first place? Ugh, people at my school used to do that all the time ;__;
I know some people get offended by the word '****' but he has no right to assume girls are going to be offended by one little word. If I were that girl, I probably would have broken his arm. Just to, you know, teach him how gentle and womanly I am.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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stinkychops said:
Hey man, I can sympathise with that. I just wouldn't say such an old and widespread part of our culture has to be demolished in the name of equity. I don't think that women are weaker mentally then men, and I know there are plenty of women who can stand up for themselves. Does that make him a sexist? I wouldn't say so, I guess what I take pains with is that it would make more sense to say "what you just said was sexist" I wasn't there, so obviously our opinions are likely as subjective as eachothers towards this topic. I can't assume it would have helped stop the issue but I'd say it would make me support you a little more.

It seems to me that although he was bombastic, he was making a request, and to me you insulted his character. Everyone's wrong, as usual. :D
Yeah, it's pretty much whatever you make of it. Maybe if you had been there, you would think differently, or it would just support your original perception. Really, I understand where people are coming from when they say they don't think he was a sexist. I mean, as far as I could tell, he really did have good intentions. It's too bad it went down the way it did, and everyone had to walk away pissed off.
 

TelHybrid

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I get fed up of the way it's socially acceptable to say "men are pricks" and "ugh men" and such, yet badmouthing women is sexist.

Double standard much?
 

sqweesboo

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One thing that irritates me about some guys is that they think that women are a special kind of stupid when it comes to computers. I'm averagely competent when it comes to technology, not good, not bad, but because I have breasts and no penis aparently I enter moron levels when it comes to anything with bottons and an on switch, aparently.

I found this out when I went into a Game store, picked up the Sims 2. A MAN in front of me was able to buy this no problem whatsoever, he hands over the game, then the money, he gets his shiny new game in a bag, with very little interaction with the store clerk.

I hand my shiny new game over to him, he looks at the case, then me, and asks "have you checked if your computer will handle this?" .... yes, because I as a woman need to be reminded to check system requirements.