As metalheads, is it compulsory that we must hate?

[meticadpa]

Racer X are good. Gilbert is one of those(seemingly few) guitarists who manages to be really technical skilled, and also melodic. Also has unbelieveably long fingers.

Metallica are metallica. Like some of their stuff. Don't think Hammets very good. He manages to be technical without being melodic too much.

It's a pretty nice list though.

Heh, the actual list would be like a million times bigger if I could actually be bothered to type it out.

Racer X blow my mind. Paul's an unbelievable guitar player - like you said, he manages to shred but keep it musical. Something that many guitar players (*cough* Malmsteen *cough*) fail at. He's very versatile, too.

About Kirk Hammett, I could not agree more. He's a very mediocre guitar player, and is a bit overly fond of the E minor pentatonic blues scale (the basis of every solo on Kill 'em All pretty much) and the good old shred down the neck... I'd rate James higher as a guitar player to be honest, and Dave Mustaine was a much better guitar player (and still is).

I mostly like Gilbert's solo stuff though. Check out the Silence Followed By A Deafening Roar album.

 

[JimmerDunda]

Metal heads always annoyed me.

Their insecurity about their genre is very amazing.

 

[Kyriptonite]

Racer X are good. Gilbert is one of those(seemingly few) guitarists who manages to be really technical skilled, and also melodic. Also has unbelieveably long fingers.

Metallica are metallica. Like some of their stuff. Don't think Hammets very good. He manages to be technical without being melodic too much.

It's a pretty nice list though.

Heh, the actual list would be like a million times bigger if I could actually be bothered to type it out.

Racer X blow my mind. Paul's an unbelievable guitar player - like you said, he manages to shred but keep it musical. Something that many guitar players (*cough* Malmsteen *cough*) fail at. He's very versatile, too.

About Kirk Hammett, I could not agree more. He's a very mediocre guitar player, and is a bit overly fond of the E minor pentatonic blues scale (the basis of every solo on Kill 'em All pretty much) and the good old shred down the neck... I'd rate James higher as a guitar player to be honest, and Dave Mustaine was a much better guitar player (and still is).

I mostly like Gilbert's solo stuff though. Check out the Silence Followed By A Deafening Roar album.

I had a quick listen to to Racer X. They are very good. Are they an instrumental band?

 

[meticadpa]

Metal heads always annoyed me.

Their insecurity about their genre is very amazing.

Stereotypical metalheads, yes.

The guys that think they're cool because they have a Napalm Death shirt and proclaim that anything except metal is somehow inadequate and music of lesser beings... despite it being a sub-genre of rock.

I had a quick listen to to Racer X. They are very good. Are they an instrumental band?

Nope. They have a very, very good singer. Check out "Time Before The Sun". Most of their famous tunes are instrumental though.

 

[Kyriptonite]

Metal heads always annoyed me.

Their insecurity about their genre is very amazing.

We are not insecure about metal. People like you constantly put metal down and not just metal but the people that supports metal and we feel its our right to defend it, like we can understand you don't like metal but that dose not mean you have the right to belittle for love for the music.

 

[JimmerDunda]

Metal heads always annoyed me.

Their insecurity about their genre is very amazing.

We are not insecure about metal. People like you constantly put metal down and not just metal but the people that supports metal and we feel its our right to defend it, like we can understand you don't like metal but that dose not mean you have the right to belittle for love for the music.

Hey buddy, I listen to some metal too. However I don't worship it as the master genre and deny all other genres of music. I like to keep my borders open.

Also thanks for proving my point.

 

[Tallim]

Never noticed, metalheads tend to be the nicest people you could meet and usually just ignore other music at worst.

lol i went to a guys house once for some party games and drinking everyone who turned up had long hair leather jackets and tattos i felt way out of place these guys looked like thugs and i was woundering what i was doing here they put on some hammerfall and i was still like ok there cool but what sorta game are we gonna play and no word of a lie we played D&D i counldn't bloody belive it metal head/nerds i didnt think they existed till that point greatest bunch of guys i ever met and they turned me into a meatel head untill that point i never really liked any music

as for hateing no we never did they listened to all sorts of music but metal was on 98% of the time with selected bits from other music

My D&D group were all metalheads and goths. It was a very interesting campaign.

 

[Kyriptonite]

I had a quick listen to to Racer X. They are very good. Are they an instrumental band?

Nope. They have a very, very good singer. Check out "Time Before The Sun". Most of their famous tunes are instrumental though.[/quote]

Thanks. I think I just found another band I quite like

 

[ZephrC]

I have to say that there is a certain subset of metalheads that tend to think they're being clever and insulting by calling metal that's not heavy enough or to mainstream for their tastes by calling it hard rock.

Because hard rock is... bad??? When I run into these people it's hard to resist the urge to try and slap the stupid out of them.

Other than that, generally I find that most people that listen to metal are fairly accepting of other genres. Most healthy people are.

 

[Lawnmooer]

I'm a metalhead, I love metal of all different kinds, I hate the new crap that people call music where it is all synthesised and no-one has to have skill to create songs and just need a computer and one button to create a sound and repeat it the whole song.

But I don't hate other genres, if I hear good music I will acknowledge that it is good but also will not be afraid to state "This isn't really my kind of music" people acuse me of being violent but it has nothing to do with metal (Infact metal calms me down, the heavier it is the more calming I find it) it's to do with my personality.

I usually see other metalheads and they are calm and just mess around and have fun, occasionally the fun consists of being violent but thats what happens with a few of my friends when we mess around (We kinda don't care wether we get injured or not, we just live to have fun) whilst if you look onto some youtube videos of metal music you can usually see someone who doesn't like metal commenting on the video and being very vocal on how they don't like it and all metal bands should die in a fire, which usually gets a fairly calm response from a metal head telling them to piss off.

So the way I see it is that metalheads don't intend to hate or be violent they are just seen that way because people who prefer other genres hate on metal and try and cause violence so they can say "Oh look another violent metalhead, what a surprise"

Also I do not want other genres to be overshadowed by metal, I kinda like being one of the few people I meet who likes it, especially because when you do find someone who likes it it is awesome and also because if it became popular (To the point where all other genres became pretty much empty) then there would be alot of people saying they like it just to go with the crowd.

 

[Kyriptonite]

Metal heads always annoyed me.

Their insecurity about their genre is very amazing.

We are not insecure about metal. People like you constantly put metal down and not just metal but the people that supports metal and we feel its our right to defend it, like we can understand you don't like metal but that dose not mean you have the right to belittle for love for the music.

Hey buddy, I listen to some metal too. However I don't worship it as the master genre and deny all other genres of music. I like to keep my borders open.

Also thanks for proving my point.

Well excuse me, it just sounded like you where attacking everyone that liked the genre. Next time be more clear in what you are saying and you might not get comments like mine.

 

[meticadpa]

Haha, don't worry about it! The more you love music, the more music you love.

You should check out Mr. Big (another of Paul Gilbert's bands, though more rock than metal and less... shred-like) and his solo stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3eq8PTcKyU

One of the best guitar intros of all time in my opinion.

And some solo stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR2gCAO2CRY

(not the full song, but you get the idea)

 

[Kyriptonite]

Haha, don't worry about it! The more you love music, the more music you love.

You should check out Mr. Big (another of Paul Gilbert's bands, though more rock than metal and less... shred-like) and his solo stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3eq8PTcKyU

One of the best guitar intros of all time in my opinion.

And some solo stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR2gCAO2CRY

(not the full song, but you get the idea)

I have to say Green Tinted Sixties Mind is pretty good. Minds me of Bon Jovi in some ways.

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

Even within metal genre, there are haters split between Megadeth and Metallica, at least were used to be. I should know because my friend is kind of leaning towards that area.

They are nice people outside but in the internet, they are best at slandering other music genre, particularly towards rap. People who listen to rap music can't come with effective argument. So yeah it's usually metalheads who start the pointless arguments. To me, it's like they try to make themselves secure.

Hopefully that'll be gone because according to Dave Mustain they are hopping for a Metallica/Megadeth tour because they played together at Sonisphere.
So Hooray!

 

[The Eggplant]

I'm more or less a metalhead, but my opinion on music of all kinds is that while it's completely appropriate to dislike--even hate--particular artists, that shouldn't be a judgment on the entire genre they represent. In consequence, while most of what a passerby will hear coming from my dorm is standard deathcore fare (Sonic Syndicate, Nightrage, Nodes of Ranvier and the like), my musical life has also definitely been enriched by discovering an appreciation for Johnny Cash, Bad Religion, and Jedi Mind Tricks, to name only a few. As cliche as this definitely is, it's also appropriate in this case: "hate the player(s), not the game."

But yeah, I've seen my share of metalhead snobbery. One of my good buddies at school is an incredible elitist and has even condemned me in the past for dabbling in metalcore. I haven't quite gotten to the point of telling him that his love for the Scorpions kinda kills his credibility, but I'm working on it.

 

[Wardnath]

I'm one of the few black metal fans here and I listen to deathcore.

Think about that.

Also, what my brother said is true:

OT - Those tend to be the newbie metalheads. After a few months they realise music is subjective and zip it.

 

[meticadpa]

I've got a metalhead friend who refused to talk to me for a week and blocked my from MSN for listening to Lady Gaga... I lol'd so much.

Wait, why is that guy my friend?

 

[Yagharek]

Gilbert himself is a pretty decent singer. Check out Down to mexico:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYbDKBcmVmQ

Though i'm not a big fan of unaccompanied solos. There's so much more you can do with an accompaniment, because it can change the tone completely of what you're doing, depending on how the backing is changing.

Edit: Totally agree that James is better than Kirk. Much more melodic. Kirk does a few solos that are good, but James is definetely better.

 

[Wardnath]

The only thing I find odd is: why all the divisions of genre in metal music? That is, symphonic, drone, death, industrial etc. And why the insistance upon them? I can enjoy everything from Nile to Nightwish to Rammstein to Amon Amarth; why are there so many genres? As far as I can see, metal is a genre typically defined by a loud, consistent volume and beat. It is typically dominated by electric guitars, played with a singular level of skill, and bands within the genre often pride themselves on their unique vocal abilities. I'm generalising, but you get my gist. So why the divisions?

Because they're all so radically different from each other that they warrant their own categories. Ambient black metal is not the same as brutal death metal. Completely and utterly different from each other. That's why.

 

[open trap]

I never liked music, never, i listened to all types and the only thing that sticked was classic rock. So one day i listened to a friend and tried metal and it changed my life. I wont to some kid with the potentil to be a jock fag and your standered prep to a metal head with a deep burning hatred for all those who sorround me. All other types of music are unworthy to be seen on the same plain of existence as metal. The uninspired soless abominations who have no emotion or thought must be burned with the sacred fire of the gods and its burnt ashes sucked into a black whole where its atoms will be torn apart and gone forever. \m/

I hope you're joking.

If not, it's pretty pathetic that you think like that just because of music.

Well i have always hated my peers, they sortof disgust me in a sense.

What bands do you listen to?

Does it not occur to you that a large amount of metal(like every other genre) is very cliched and uninspired?

Megadeth, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Manowar, Judas Priest