Ask a 3rd Generation Mexican American

[Zykon TheLich]

So, you are looking to be asked questions on maybe whether you get any problems with racism or stuff like that? Do you get seen as Mexican or American or South American? It's just a little vague.

Do you guys have Chorizo like the spanish? that stuff is awesome.

 

[Scolar Visari]

Cool thanks for talking about personal stuff like that. It's always cool to hear about how other peoples families came here.

 

[Labyrinth]

Why all the hate on Mexicans? Seriously. It boggles me why so many people whine about their 'job stealing ways' then forget to change the fact that the companies -can- underpay them.

I have a genius idea! I think that immigrants, illegal or not, should be paid the same wage as citizens.

 

[jim_doki]

what is it about your culture that makes it interesting enough to assume that people are going to ask you questions about it?

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Why all the hate on Mexicans? Seriously. It boggles me why so many people whine about their 'job stealing ways' then forget to change the fact that the companies -can- underpay them.

I have a genius idea! I think that immigrants, illegal or not, should be paid the same wage as citizens.

That was the dumbest part of this thread thus far.

 

[Flying-Emu]

That was the dumbest part of this thread thus far.

That was just Labyrinth's witty words at work.

ANYWHO, my uncle-in-law is a fourth-generation Mexican-American, and he says that it's against his culture to eat the turkey. Any insight as to why?

 

[Labyrinth]

Why all the hate on Mexicans? Seriously. It boggles me why so many people whine about their 'job stealing ways' then forget to change the fact that the companies -can- underpay them.

I have a genius idea! I think that immigrants, illegal or not, should be paid the same wage as citizens.

That was the dumbest part of this thread thus far.

How so? It is an obvious issue. Besides, paying them the same will eradicate the appeal.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Why all the hate on Mexicans? Seriously. It boggles me why so many people whine about their 'job stealing ways' then forget to change the fact that the companies -can- underpay them.

I have a genius idea! I think that immigrants, illegal or not, should be paid the same wage as citizens.

That was the dumbest part of this thread thus far.

How so? It is an obvious issue. Besides, paying them the same will eradicate the appeal.

You obviously don't get the reason for allowing illegal immigration if you think it is that easy. The reason they are allowed to come is because they are a serf class now that doesn't have any rights thus the reason the Chamber of Commerce is suing Homeland Security from keeping illegals from working. They are a cheap workforce that have no legal rights thus paying them the same is stupid because it defies the point of illegal immigration since it is only allowed by the US Side of the Border because big business doesn't want to pay the same amount and be able to work them harder.

It is a stupid comment because it defies the reason such a problem exists.

 

[axia777]

The issue of illegal immigration lies in the fact that Mexico is so messed up in so many ways. That is the heart of the issue. We need to get rid of the blatant corruption that is poisoning the economy in Mexico. I have been to Mexico many times and think it is a great country that has much to offer. When the Mexican economy can stand on it's own after America helps it then the immigration issue will be pretty much a moot point. I used to live in a predominantly Latino community in California. Most of the people who illegally immigrated here that I knew wanted to go back to Mexico because it is there home. I would feel the same way. I think America really needs to stop helping countries on the other side of the world so much. We need to help Mexico get economically established to the living condition there are not so horrendous that it's people have to leave to live a decent life. This will take decades to do but it is not an unreasonable idea I think.

 

[ace_of_something]

This one, now please stop dancing around the subject; You'll scuff the floor.

Anyhoo, he just wants to know why being the grandchild of a Mexican qualifies you to have an "Ask a (insert noun here)" thread. I could see if you had emmigrated from Mexico yourself that would give you a different perspective on things.

I'm being as literal as the thread is. I only suppose to represent my position, which is that of a 3RD GENERATION MEXICAN AMERICAN.

What are you confused about here?

I guess my point is how you can instantly be a cultural expert (or assumed to be) on a culture with which you are generations from having lived in. Why this general attitude is exclusive to people of Central American decent. (and sometimes asians) when say Someone who is in the same situation (2nd or 3rd generation) of European is considered to know little if nothing of the culture of origin unless proven otherwise.

Think of it like this many people expect Mexican-Americans to continue to speak Spanish even when on to the 3rd generation and beyond. Most people wouldn't expect let's say... a Danish-American to speak Danish when their grandparents did.

Why are cultural expectations like this placed so much on you and not others?

 

[RebelRising]

what is it about your culture that makes it interesting enough to assume that people are going to ask you questions about it?

Well...

I...:<

That is...: I

It's an interesting culture.

In all seriousness, though, what's your heritage? Because I think if he's a 3rd generation Mexican and has a sufficient family and an opinion on things, not all concerning his culture, I would think he has authority to inform us of the many interesting factors of Mexican culture.

 

[jim_doki]

Well...

I...:<

That is...: I

It's an interesting culture.

In all seriousness, though, what's your heritage? Because I think if he's a 3rd generation Mexican and has a sufficient family and an opinion on things, not all concerning his culture, I would think he has authority to inform us of the many interesting factors of Mexican culture.

white aussie, i have no culture of my own, more a bastardised version of every culture on earth.

i posed the question as i really don't see that much relevence in asking anyone from any specific background what they think of things. I mean I haven't started the "Ask a Jaded angry white man" thread, not to mention that its a Ask A... thread

 

[Jimmyjames]

Why is it impossible to go to a park in Southern California on a Sunday and not see about 5000 Mexicans having a giant party?

 

[RebelRising]

Well...

I...:<

That is...: I

It's an interesting culture.

In all seriousness, though, what's your heritage? Because I think if he's a 3rd generation Mexican and has a sufficient family and an opinion on things, not all concerning his culture, I would think he has authority to inform us of the many interesting factors of Mexican culture.

white aussie, i have no culture of my own, more a bastardised version of every culture on earth.

i posed the question as i really don't see that much relevence in asking anyone from any specific background what they think of things. I mean I haven't started the "Ask a Jaded angry white man" thread, not to mention that its a Ask A... thread

Fair enough. It's late where I am, and I just saw his thread as one that more or less tried to connect his background with his views. I'm going to freaking bed.

-Peace, R.R.

 

[Jimmyjames]

I have a genius idea! I think that immigrants, illegal or not, should be paid the same wage as citizens.

If that happens, they should pay taxes, too.

Fact is, if immigrant labor was paid the same, agriculture and farmers would suffer, and you'd pay twice the amount at the grocery store. If laborers come over here illegally and are prepared to do the work and not pay taxes, then we should be fine with paying them less.

Not to mention, they make up the difference. Let me tell you a (true) story:

A friend's family has a Mexican housekeeper. This lady works for 3 families (fairly decent pay), and sends more than half her earnings back to Mexico every month. Her mom got sick, so what did she do? She smuggled her Mom into the U.S., had our hospitals take care of her, then sent her back to Mexico without paying a dime.

So, as far as I'm concerned, the taxpayers are getting our money's worth.

 

[Mullahgrrl]

ANYWHO, my uncle-in-law is a fourth-generation Mexican-American, and he says that it's against his culture to eat the turkey.

He can't be very popular with the women then.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Agreed. These threads are elitism in disguise. You think you are special enough to answer for an entire people?
Pish posh I say. Now, you'll have to excuse me while I start an "Ask a (insert something so convoluted that I could possibley be the only person to answer for it here)" thread.

Haha

Elitisism?

Since when was I speaking for an entire group of people?

You're assertions are dellusional.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Why is it impossible to go to a park in Southern California on a Sunday and not see about 5000 Mexicans having a giant party?

Because it's cheaper than both Chuck E Cheese and Disneyland... and the food is better too.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I guess my point is how you can instantly be a cultural expert (or assumed to be) on a culture with which you are generations from having lived in.

The only thing I am supposing to know is the experience of a 3rd generation Mexican American. With it comes issues of cultural identity between your 2nd generation relatives and the suburban middle class society that you are schooled in as well cultural differences that are still retained over a 3 generation period.

There is an experience there that is far different from that of either a Mexican or an American.