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Clairaudient

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Smiles said:
is there anything you can tell me that might get me out of it?
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ace_of_something

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Smiles said:
I dont know if I have been Subpoena'd, all I know is my mom says I have to go... they will give me the statement I made on the night it happened, which is going to be embaressing because I was so freaked out I couldn't think straight...

could I say that I fear for my safety, because the stabbers were gang affiliated or something? is there anything you can tell me that might get me out of it?
(not that I don't want to help, but they have security cameras from five angls at least, and I think I would be more of a hinderance than a help...)
Attorneys are trained to realize when someone is a poor witness, you need to stay as part of their case. Because, the more evidence they have compiled the less likely it will go to trial. Well over half (i wanna say something like 3/4) of cases don't go to trial. One major reason is if the prosecution has a very strong case the defense will plead out to get a lighter sentence, knowing they can't win. You might be that one extra piece that creates a slam dunk and if you back out the case won?t be strong enough to prevent a trial and than this guy will walk. If you do what you need to you might be scared for a while but eventually you will know that you did the right thing.
You will not look foolish; statements are read in a very dry manner not re-enacted like a play. They'll say "And on the night of (date) you said "I saw (suspect's name) stab (victim), is that true?" and you'll say yes.
They won't say "So you were screaming like a mad woman when officer smith asked you what you saw." Actually, if they even do bring that up it will be to strengthen the case people don't get hysterical when they saw nothing.
The prosecution will make sure you?re very well prepared and understand what?s going to happen. It?s not at all like TV.
Court can be very very scary but it needs to be done.
If you truly are frightened of that let them (the attorneys) know they will do what needs to be done.
I?m very sorry I didn?t really answer your question, but I hope I can help you realize how important you are to helping your community.
 

Smiles

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okay thank you. Reading your thread here, and some of the things you've dealt with, makes me feel a little more confidant about it. I wanted to be a police officer once, I dont think I have what it takes though :)...
 

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What sort of behaviour do you expect or generally receive from people on drugs? Ice's one that interests me in particular, because I had a fun experience with a friend's friend on a bad trip.
 

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Labyrinth said:
What sort of behaviour do you expect or generally receive from people on drugs? Ice's one that interests me in particular, because I had a fun experience with a friend's friend on a bad trip.
All drugs you have to watch people carefully cuz you never know what you might suddenly need an ambulance. I?m not sure what ice means to you; some regions it means cocaine some it means meth.

Pot: You can expect them to be pretty spacey and usually fairly easy to deal with.

Ecstasy: A strong desire to keep moving and touching everything possible

Cocaine: Usually very very hyper and kind of impervious to pain.

Crack: Could be unable to stay awake or they could be doing back flips.

LSD: Expect to be talking to someone who is not there. And may or may not think that you are in fact; a giant talking blue iguana.

Meth: Meth is the worst; these people are usually impervious to pain, very aggressive, and insist on being nude.

Alcohol: Can be very mellow or very aggressive. Expect vomit though. Totally brings out a person?s id.

That being said all drugs you need to be careful cuz you can?t really expect anything except that it?s gonna get real stupid real quick.

I once had a woman high on ecstasy grab my crotch and tell me how she loves a guy in uniform. She quickly got handcuffed and up against the cruiser. I was than verbally abused and told I might be a big man but not in the pants, and that I could never handle all that woman. (All 90 pounds of her!)
She got an assault an officer charge. (Ps. Don?t even ask cuz I?ll tell you now: No, never, no way in hell.)
 

Labyrinth

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Ice here is slang for crystal methamphetamine, which is usually high quality.
 

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smallharmlesskitten said:
Labyrinth said:
Ice here is slang for crystal methamphetamine, which is usually high quality.
Do you guys have "P" over there (Pure Methamphetamine)
I don't think the term's used, though I've heard "Superice" tossed about.
 

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Is it true that there's a point on a man's head where, if you shoot it, it will blow up?

Couldn't resist.

.../Hot Fuzz

...I'll be in the corner.

Actually, I have more;

Have you ever fired two guns whilst jumping through the air?

Have you ever fired one gun whilst jumping through the air?

Ever been in a high-speed pursuit?

Have you ever fired a gun whilst in a high speed pursuit?

Finally, Have you seen Bad Boys 2?

EDIT; Yes, I do want these questions answered.
 

smallharmlesskitten

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Labyrinth said:
smallharmlesskitten said:
Labyrinth said:
Ice here is slang for crystal methamphetamine, which is usually high quality.
Do you guys have "P" over there (Pure Methamphetamine)
I don't think the term's used, though I've heard "Superice" tossed about.
It is soooo fucking bad.

Apparently it hooks you on the first hit. 99% Chance of becoming addicted if you do it that one time. And it works 10X as much on your body than Crystal Meth.
 

ace_of_something

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Qayin said:
Is it true that there's a point on a man's head where, if you shoot it, it will blow up?

Couldn't resist.

.../Hot Fuzz

...I'll be in the corner.

Actually, I have more;

Have you ever fired two guns whilst jumping through the air?

Have you ever fired one gun whilst jumping through the air?

Ever been in a high-speed pursuit?

Have you ever fired a gun whilst in a high speed pursuit?

Finally, Have you seen Bad Boys 2?

EDIT; Yes, I do want these questions answered.
I'm not a doctor, but i doubt it.

nope
nope
yes
nope
nope

The high speed thing I didn't do much, I helped lay out the spike strips. (They completely worked by the way).
 

wordsmith

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Have you ever jumped through the air firing two guns? (sorry, I had to :) ) Nice to meet a cop who isn't a complete idiot...
 

dMighty

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If two cars are both speeding one behind the other, would you ticket the guy in back or the leader? Or would there be some way to ticket both?
 

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ace_of_something said:
You can ask me questions like, things you want to know about police behavior, jail, things about the system. My knowledge from experience is strictly American, but I do have a small amount of knowledge academically of other countries (really small).
When a Police Officer runs your drivers license or state ID, what information comes up on the dispatchers computer? I was recently mistaken for someone who started a physical altercation at a downtown bar, and a police officer stopped me, asked for my ID, ran it, then let me go. I did nothing wrong, and have no history with any police departments, but I was just curious as to what the dispatcher saw regarding me and my information.

Thanks :)
 

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dMighty said:
If two cars are both speeding one behind the other, would you ticket the guy in back or the leader? Or would there be some way to ticket both?
If you mean street racing than... You can ticket both just go over the radio saying where it is how fast it was doing. You ever been pulled over and you think "that was like 5 minutes ago?"

If you mean generally, it's about 50/50; it's just whichever one is easier to get (which is usually the back) or whichever one is being a worse (see: faster, reckless) driver (which is usually the front).

mokes310 said:
When a Police Officer runs your drivers license or state ID, what information comes up on the dispatchers computer? I was recently mistaken for someone who started a physical altercation at a downtown bar, and a police officer stopped me, asked for my ID, ran it, then let me go. I did nothing wrong, and have no history with any police departments, but I was just curious as to what the dispatcher saw regarding me and my information.

Thanks :)
Dispatch goes with whatever description was on the call; so if they said a white male, age 25-30, with brown hair, a handlebar mustache and a grey polo his name is "John Smith" and you so happen to look like that. You'll get pulled over; if they than run your ID and see your name is Robert Jones, you're on your merry way.

There is a misconception that very vague descriptions will go out; particularly 'black male'.
This isn't true unless the description is at least someone specific (black male age 25-30 with a goatee, red t-shirt, and a yellow ballcap) it won't go out; even than unless it's an emergency (like someone who just robbed a place at gun point) they won't put it out unless they have a name; in which case it's at the pre-shift briefing usually.

As far as what comes up on the screen that varies on what software your department uses, ours? It would have, pretty much everything thats on your DL your social security number and you could hit a button to pull up a brief description of a criminal record (Just charged/date/outcome)
 

Drake the Dragonheart

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I have some more questions
What difference would you say there is between what you did as a Jailer and say a prison guard/warden? or are Jailer/prison guard/warden all essentially the same thing?

Where does say a dog or any animal with either sharp claws or teeth rank on the amount of force charts with regard to self defense?
 

Gahars

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You're working in a small town when you discover a homicidal, masked killer, who's immortal, mind you, is on the loose, hacking up teenager after teenager.

How would the force react?
 

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I have a question in regards to prison, is it true you guys take shoelaces and guitar strings? or is that just in high risk suicide cases?

also, by now everyone knows the miranda rights, do you still need to say them every time someone gets busted, or is it safe to assume that they know what's going on?
 

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Gahars said:
You're working in a small town when you discover a homicidal, masked killer, who's immortal, mind you, is on the loose, hacking up teenager after teenager.
How would the force react?
immortal? Find some some complicated plan to trap them forever perhaps consult a local voodoo priestess/eccentric old farmer/loner mountain man whathave you to find their weakness.

jim_doki said:
I have a question in regards to prison, is it true you guys take shoelaces and guitar strings? or is that just in high risk suicide cases?

also, by now everyone knows the miranda rights, do you still need to say them every time someone gets busted, or is it safe to assume that they know what's going on?
Never heard of any sort of jail where people have guitars let alone the strings. Items people are allowed to have are tightly controlled. People are issued shower shoes, which are like rubbery flip lops. They can purchase shoes from weekly commisary the shoes are slip ons though. Laces can be used as a weapon or to commit suicide.

Miranda rights only have to be given before you start a formal interview and questioning not as soon as you arrest someone.

edit: you also don't do miranda till someone becomes a suspect; so if a cop starts giving you those; prepare for a shitty day.