Ask a Geek Girl

[Kuchinawa212]

Ah I got one
As a geeky girl, would you rather go to a school dance, or stay at home and watch movies or something like that?

 

[Xelanath]

Mazty, you appear to have missed Sad Robot's statement that our opinions are subjective. While I'm arguing against you I recognise that you believe that make-up is always better than no make-up; I'm only attempting to get you to understand the legitimacy of an opposing position.

As I said, make-up makes people look better as it gives a more symmetrical appearance while highlighting the persons good features. Saying someone looks better without make-up is saying a car looks better unpolished, or a room untidy.

Your two examples are also subjective. Many people prefer an untidy room.
One of the obvious arguments against make-up is that it's fake, and can be entirely unnecessary. Yes, it can help to accentuate the attractive features of a person's face, but it can also obscure someone's true beauty.

If you look better, you feel better, hence why women should wear make-up.

It is only your opinion that make-up always makes someone look better. Personally I definitely prefer knowing that a member of the opposite sex is naturally attractive than that they can skilfully apply make-up.

"Any reason not to wear one is a good one"
How did you come to that idea? Really? Sounds more like you may be the one with low self esteem trying to find a like minded woman, as saying if you don't try to look good, that's a good idea. It makes no sense.

Alternatively, I'd argue that many women who wear a lot of make-up have lower self-esteem than women who don't. Women who don't, or don't often, or only wear a little, may simply be more comfortable with themselves.

 

[Mr.logic]

Why are you so few? Where do you all hide out? I only know like 3, and out of those 3 only 1 is my friend.

i have yet to meet one sadly,

OT um okay how many gamer girls care about intelligence over physical excellence.

 

[nativebelle]

OMGZ a gurl on a gamming forumz?

Surely this question is just an excuse to talk about yourself, I mean 'geek girl' could encompass so much.

 

[ars731]

What kind of games do geek girls like?

 

[curty129]

I fail to see what gender has to do with making a person special. It's just a arbitrary mix of X and Y chromosomes that determines whether someone is male of female. I guess I may as well ask a question since I'm here, though;

What is your opinion of people who get really expensive gaming PCs and then mod it with lights, fans, custom paint jobs, etc.

Special? It's not the gender that makes them special. It's the rarity of meeting a geek "girl" tat makes it special.

It's not the biological shnizzle.

OT: My question has probably already been answered , but:

What are the signs that show someone that a girl is a geek?
Literally all the girls I've ever met (Though that is few) have never been interested or informed about games. Like, at all.
I'd be extremely shocked if I ever met a girl who bought Call Of Duty purposely for herself and played it on Veteran before anything else.

Because I've never met a girl interested in games, I mean.

 

[MGlBlaze]

Special? It's not the gender that makes them special. It's the rarity of meeting a geek "girl" tat makes it special.

I say again; I fail to see how being a girl makes it special. They're geeks, and they're female. So bloody what? It's like people who jump all over a girl if she joins an online game on TF2 or something. I fail to see what's so special about it and why it warrants so much attention. It's especially infuriating if they're on my team because it's less people focusing on shooting the OTHER guys.

Although it certainly says a lot about males who think that this type of thing really is THAT rare.

 

[Sad Robot]

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See my post for the points I made.

You go on about the scientific side of things, and yes, I've read about a study that concludes that most people have a tendency of preferring symmetrical faces and bodies over asymmetrical ones. Make up doesn't make your face symmetrical, it can be, however, used to accentuate certain features if they don't already stand out.

The scientific data on the matter is hardly conclusive, please stop acting like it's such a simple matter. There's a whole bunch of variables at play. (Presumably, I'll get cleverlymadeup coming here and telling I'm wrong and that everything is simple. It's not.) It doesn't mean you need to discard a scientific theory, but you must note that in this case it isn't always applicable and that indeed trying to force this view isn't usually very successful.

Also, Hollywood isn't really a valid example here, if you know anything about the technical side of film making. And the fact that not all people find these actresses attractive anyway. There's also the legend that there's no one as insecure as a Hollywood actress.

 

[ma55ter_fett]

No point in pursuing anything if she can't get my blood pumping.

Forgive me if I hijack the thread, but this saying always made me wonder: Is this something like heart malfunction or are we talking about blood pumping to the penis, transforming it from Von Limpenstein to Castle Erectionvania?

What do you think?

 

[curty129]

Special? It's not the gender that makes them special. It's the rarity of meeting a geek "girl" tat makes it special.

I say again; I fail to see how being a girl makes it special. They're geeks, and they're female. So bloody what? It's like people who jump all over a girl if she joins an online game on TF2 or something. I fail to see what's so special about it and why it warrants so much attention. It's especially infuriating if they're on my team because it's less people focusing on shooting the OTHER guys.

Although it certainly says a lot about males who think that this type of thing really is THAT rare.

Ahh, sorry :0 That sentence had many interpretations to it e.e I just wen with the one i thought likely >>'

And yeah, it kinda is rather rare. I mean it's not exactly something to gasp at, I know. "W.. What do we do.. o.o'" But you'd never get more than 3 girls in one such game, such as in TF2. And well, geek guys have something in common with geek girls. They're geeks. And with few geek girls around, every guy's going to want to be the one to impress her most <<'

And hey, if they aren't concentrating, then it forces you improve as the difficulty increases

 

[Abengoshis]

Do you like Tetris?

xD

(._.)

In short bursts of classic game nostalgia. Or when I'm bored and want something that involves no adrenaline or over-thinking.

So which do you like more: Dr Mario or Tetris? I prefer Dr Mario...

 

[Sad Robot]

Unfortunately saying makeup doesn't make a face seem more symmetrical just shows you don't really know make-up at all - what is foundation for? etc
How is accentuating a persons features a bad idea/make the less attractive?

Granted, I don't know much about applying make-up. I do know that if you wish to make one's face more symmetrical, you need plastic surgery. I'm not against people using make-up, like I've said. If it makes people feel more secure, good, if it makes them more appealing to the kind of people they want to please, good. What I'm against is assuming that everyone should use make-up because it would make them feel better about themselves, that all people look better with make-up, and that people should always make the effort. And I do find telling a person they should wear make-up rather offensive. Again, if they ask for your opinion, fine.

The idea of Hollywood women being insecure just sounds like jealous bitching made up by school girls and hardly a valid point, as anyone in a professional media sense wears make-up (TV, magazines). Also look at it from this view - if you were in a large firm, as much as the men wear suits & shave, I can guarantee that women would be expected to wear make-up.

Like I said, it's a legend, but from what i've read from interviews, it does seem to be quite accurate. But that's pure conjecture, I could be wrong there, I don't know these people.

You do know that all men wear make up in movies and television too? It's because of the lighting and filming and all that.

Just because a certain time period promotes a certain look, catering to a certain demographic and general appeal, doesn't mean that all people find that look attractive, and that for self esteem or other reasons need to or should adhere to it. It's like telling someone how they should feel about something.

 

[nativebelle]

1) Why do (some) gamers girls have an seemingly uncontrollable urge to be attention whores and drama-queens?

2) Why do (some) gamer girls seem to think that they're so damned rare? It's not like I don't belong to a small (less than 30 active members) guild that include several women in its' membership.

1) I have a long list of theories on this. Some involve daddy not paying enough attention to her. Some involving societal expectations. But the simple answer is they're girls and (unlike me) don't want to turn into "one of the guys."

2) Well, mostly because many like me grew up as one of the only girls in their school more interested in playing Indiana Jones than Barbies. And we are growing in ranks on games and internet, true, but we tend to think "rare" in that we don't physically meet many other glasses-wearing nerdettes.

Okay can I ask you a question, referring to this quote here and a lot of other things you've said in here.

Are you being serious? I mean this has got to be a bit tongue in cheek, surely?

 

[Sad Robot]

Make-up can give the illusion of a more symmetrical face by giving a consistent gradient to a dodgy complextion etc.

Fair enough, but that's certainly something I tend to notice and it turns me off.

Sadly you did not answer my question:
How is accentuating a persons features a bad idea/makes them less attractive?
Other than making the person feel better about themselves, make-up hardly makes someone look less attractive.

I felt I did, but I'll try again. I never said it's a "bad idea", I think I've said several times that it can be a good thing. I don't think it's automatically or always a good thing. In my opinion, and that of some others, it doesn't always make people more attractive. And some people feel fine the way they are. Why should they put on make-up?

If you look for pictures of actresses without make-up, you will see my point.

These actresses you mention are hardly representative of all women to begin with. Does make up make some of them more attractive to most people? I believe so, yes.

Yes men do wear make-up in films as well. It's not just because of lighting and filming, that makes no sense as the lighting can just be daylight, and a prerequisite of filming isn't "you have to wear make-up" - it's because they look better for wearing it, and the audience likes to watch attractive, or at least pleasing people on screen most of the time.

"Daylight" is hardly natural lighting in Hollywood. Of course they aim for a certain look in films, that's why they wear the make-up. It's not like they would melt in the lighting if they didn't. In cinema you have to be unnatural to be natural, so to speak.

It's not about promoting a certain look - it's about looking better. Would you prefer to go around in the cheapest possible clothing, or given the choice, designer labels?

"Good looks" are subjective. Personally, I don't really care about how much the clothing costs or who made it. If I find it looks good, it looks good. And believe it or not, some people look better in cheap clothes than designer stuff. My opinion, of course.

You have to remember, make-up exists to make people look better. If it didn't do that, or if it was just an "in thing", it wouldn't be hundreds of years old, or a billion dollar industry.

Well, yes, it exists to make people look more appealing, usually to suit whatever look is prevalent at a given time. It doesn't mean it's always successful or neccessary.

Basically to summarise, everyone would look better with make-up, and when done right, almost everyone would tend to agree (Those who wouldn't are like those who tend to like pain etc, as in be part of an unusual minority), as when it is done right (depending on style) you can't tell as it looks natural.

Well, I have certainly been hanging around the wrong women, then, since I've never seen any make-up that didn't look like make-up. But I don't agree everyone would look better with make-up, or that they should wear make-up even if it did. I don't consider myself a part of a minority, even if this view may be a minority view. You don't need to be a freak to be an exception from the norm.

Oh and proof in point, find me someone who looks better without make-up than with some on.

How would that prove my point? It's not like we have the same taste. And I wouldn't feel comfortable uploading pictures of people I know.

At any rate, I find that people who are attractive in real life, don't always photograph well. If Hollywood aesthetics are your only definition of good looking people, then I'll have to agree with your logic on that part.

"Even beauties can be unattractive. If you catch a beauty in the wrong light at the right time, forget it. I believe in low lights and trick mirrors. I believe in plastic surgery."

And I agree with that sentiment. But that's not the only kind of aesthetical beauty there is. And it doesn't adress the issue that some people don't feel the need to use make-up.

 

[ZlagarX]

well thats what the game is al about, or have I gotten it in the wrong way?

I completely misread the title!. I thought it said, "Ask a Greek girl" and for once I was happy that this was finally an "ask a ____" thread that I could enjoy.

I am slightly disappointed now, if I am honest!.

Anyhoo, now that I am here I guess I should ask a question..

..

Ah!. I got one..Have you ever lost the game?

Cuuuuuuuuuursssssseeeeeeeeeesss! I just lost the game...

damn you all, and here I was having a relly long "not having lost the gam streak" or atleast I think so..


Oh and by the way, YOU HAVE AL LOST THE GAME!

You just had to kill my streak as well, didn't you...

well thats what the game is al about, or have I gotten it in the wrong way?

 

[yoyo13rom]

*Ok deep breath, you can do this dude, you're not desperate, deep breath*
So let's just jump to relationship advices, shall we?

I have this blessing/curse to be on the borderland between geek and normal average person. The problem is that I'm not geeky enough to seduce an friend of mine who's totally into anime and stuff but I'm not ungeeky enough to have a chance at the cutest, smartest, good looking girl in school(she's not a slut by the way, she's not dumb or shallow she actually has pretty high standards so no little miss perfect jokes)

I always tried to become more(or less) geekier but I've failed every time:
- I can't stop playing video games or watching cartoons;
- I can't force myself to read more;
- I don't have the patience to learn how to properly play the saxophone, nor write a wannabe best seller detective book;
- I'm not geeky enough to like wow(or be an super anime geek)

and the list could go on with more or less topic related vices ...

Soooo can you help me Geek-Girls?(didn't intend to be rude but I intended to do something like a "save me superman" thing but it was either "Geek-Girls" or "Guild of Anonymously Escapist Girls" which didn't have the intended impact)