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Mathurin

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Corwynt said:
You seem like a person who escaped /k/.

OT Are shotguns or revolvers better against zombies?
I have only been to /k/ a couple times, I prefer /s/

Zombie killing is all about shot placement and penetration, you have to destroy the brain.

A shotgun with birdshot will not do that, wont penetrate deep enough, you need some heavier shot for that, and heavy shot is not so plentiful.
Any round for a revolver would kill the zombie, but revolvers, being pistols, have reduced accuracy.

Also, shotgun ammunition is very bulky, you can carry 3-6 rounds for a revolver for every single shotgun round (depending on caliber of revolver)
Im not sure why zombie games always rely so much on shotguns, they would suck at zombie killing.



Personally, my fav anti-zombie gun would be a bullpup .22 rifle
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/muzzelite-10-22-bullpup-rifle-stock.aspx?a=282511

the round is tiny, but in a rifle it would have plenty of power to enter the skull and do some serious damage. The bullpup stock makes it shorter for quicker engagement of targets without significantly reducing longer range accuracy or power
Its also relatively quiet, makes a pop heard for a few miles around but not loud enough to alert all zombies in the whole region like more powerful weapons.


Not to mention if one standardizes weapons on a .22 caliber they can carry a pistol with CB caps, which are subsonic (read, almost totally silent, you hear the hammer fall and thats about it) for those covert zombie killings.

And, ammunition abounds, a trip to a wal-mart will land multiple thousands of rounds.
1000 rounds is smaller than a breadbox

Not so good against fellow human scavengers though.

TsunamiWombat said:
How long can a well maintained and cleaned gun last, assuming you shoot it say, once a week on a range?
Theoretically, indefinitely.
Not really, but if properly maintained a firearm lasts longer than the human who purchased it. Certain weapons, even if improperly maintained will outlast their owners.

My mosin nagant was manufactured in 1947, it sat in a crate covered in grease for all but about 10 years of that time though.
 

Mathurin

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Bob the Average said:
OK i have a question on an AR-15 do you prefer a a1/a2 style upper or a flat top upper?

I hate AR's
If pressed, flat top, purely for aesthetic reasons.
 

Bob the Average

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Deadlock Radium said:
MetalDooley said:
Does firing a gun give you wood?

Seriously though why do you own a gun?Is it for hunting or self defence or a different reason?
I think that most people, especially in the USA owns a gun not just as a self defense necessity(I probalby spelled that waay worng), but also because it is a comfort factor. Also, many Americans feel like it's their responsibility to have a gun to protect others (family, friends etc.).
While many people do own guns for self-defense (and in my opinion self-defense is what the second amendment is about) it's not because of some paranoid fear.
 

Mathurin

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Bob the Average said:
Mathurin said:
Bob the Average said:
OK i have a question on an AR-15 do you prefer a a1/a2 style upper or a flat top upper?

I hate AR's
If pressed, flat top, purely for aesthetic reasons.
really? so where do your tastes in firearms lie?
Ironically in military firearms
I just think the M16 sucks
I like the FN stuff, looks dandy and seems to be pretty solid equipment, the US is using some of it and the Koreans are bothering to rip off their designs.
 

clutch-monkey

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really? so where do your tastes in firearms lie?
old school ftw!

[http://img693.imageshack.us/i/picture359s.jpg/]

also humming the terminator theme doesn't let you magically cycle the 1887 one handed lul
 

Mathurin

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Is that a repro 1887?
How much did that cost?

Does it cycle smoothly, like a rifle does, or is it really stiff?
 

clutch-monkey

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Mathurin said:
Is that a repro 1887?
How much did that cost?

Does it cycle smoothly, like a rifle does, or is it really stiff?
lol it's a cheap as shit IAC copy. iirc the good replica's are like ~1700 AUD. this one was $800 AUD. cycles fine, if you're rough with it haha. feels like the internal toleraces are huge, all loose.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Why don't you get something that will actually protect your home from invasion? Like a grizzly bear, or a sixteen ton weight.
 

Bob the Average

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Rickyvantof said:
Cody211282 said:
MetalDooley said:
Seriously though why do you own a gun?Is it for hunting or self defence or a different reason?
Because it's a right and they are fun to shoot. I don't hunt so I guess out of your two options mostly just self defence .
You own a gun because you like to shoot, yet you use it for self-defense?
I guess you're a person who has to defend himself a lot then...
You misunderstand self-defense and fun are separate events much like how one can use a car simply as transportation to and from work and on the weekend go to a race track use if for fun.
 

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Berethond said:
JWAN said:
Hybridwolf said:
My question, is which rifle make would people recomend? I've read that a .22 is best to start with, any manufactures you'd recommend, avoid etc?
I would say a "Winchester". Those really are good quality firearms. Anything bolt action is great for range shooting or small game hunting
Marlin also makes some high-quality .22 rifles. They're godly.

I hear they have some lever-action ones. Do want.
I totally forgot about Marlin. They do make great .22's but I would stay away from their 30-30 lever actions. I don't hear such great things about those.
I'm a Winchester/Remington kinda guy. I own a 1920's lever action .300 savage and I hunt with a 870 express .20 gauge. Both are high quality firearms. The .300 is a work of art, they don't make them like they used to is overused but you cannot say it any other way. There is nothing in the world like a solid hickory stock.
 

Mathurin

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Dommyboy said:
Do you think America is safer with or without the current gun allowance?
The big question is safer from what?


My main concern is that we have a nation which has guns legal, but anybody who carries one is a criminal, so guns cannot act as a detterrent to crime.
Concealed carry laws are changing that.

Regardless, I see guns as a totally seperate issue to crime, there are better ways to tackle crime than guns, from either direction (ie, neither banning nor carrying firearms is the best way to attack crime)

But look at me, breaking my own rules, want to debate gun policy, pm me
 

clutch-monkey

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JWAN said:
Berethond said:
JWAN said:
Hybridwolf said:
My question, is which rifle make would people recomend? I've read that a .22 is best to start with, any manufactures you'd recommend, avoid etc?
I would say a "Winchester". Those really are good quality firearms. Anything bolt action is great for range shooting or small game hunting
Marlin also makes some high-quality .22 rifles. They're godly.

I hear they have some lever-action ones. Do want.
I totally forgot about Marlin. They do make great .22's but I would stay away from their 30-30 lever actions. I don't hear such great things about those.
the 39A is fucking great! very fiddly if you're doing competition/single shot, but great accuracy.
[http://img134.imageshack.us/i/p1010001m.jpg/]

two groups at 50m, open sights (obviously), T22 ammo bottom, winchester powerpoint top group.
i'm an okay shooter and was pretty impressed with the accuracy. never heard a bad thing about their .30-30's and .45-70's.
[http://img444.imageshack.us/i/picture133x.jpg/]
 

BringBackBuck

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Guns are pretty foreign to me, but all this talk of zombie apocalypses got me to thinking: In the event of said apocalypse how would I go with my complete lack of firearm experience. is it as easy as it looks in the movies to just pick up a gun, whack in a magazine, point and shoot at the nearest undead corpse and watch it's head explode?