Assasins Creed 3 will be the last "AAA" game

[Vault101]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/09/assassins-creed-3-a-rare-opportunity-to-make-something-huge/

I post this article mainly because.....I kind of don't get it. I mean I kind of don't understand what it is when they imply AC3 will be the last "big budget" AAA game (more or less anyway in the article)

I don't see how AAA development...love it or hate it the very "core" of gaming can just disappear....I mean people buy the latest console or PC rig for a reason

again..similar thing when people were freaking out about "casual" a core game and some piece of shovel-ware you get on the Wii offer compleatly difference experiences...so why would one replace the other?

 

[Vegosiux]

Legend has it that "the last of its kind" type of entities usually aren't some kind of heroic warriors, defiantly staring destiny in the face, but rather half-crazy hermits, holed up in a mountain somewhere and telling them whippersnappers to get outta mah cave if someone comes by.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I can't be sure, but I think he means triple A games are becoming too big to sustain themselves, and that AC3 might be the last of it's kind in that regard.

Whether or not that last bit is true we'll have to see.

Also, that article reminded me AC3 has that awesome naval battle scene. YAY!

 

[Goofguy]

I don't believe it. All those big developers aren't going to give up their flagship franchises (Halo, CoD) when they're still so profitable.

 

[Vault101]

I can't be sure, but I think he means triple A games are becoming too big to sustain themselves, and that AC3 might be the last of it's kind in that regard.

Whether or not that last bit is true we'll have to see.

Also, that article reminded me AC3 has that awesome naval battle scene. YAY!

were that the case though I cant see how it would disapear compeltly....i mean the kind of games we have come to expect

voice acted, fully 3d....I don't see how it could dissapear

 

[Casual Shinji]

I can't be sure, but I think he means triple A games are becoming too big to sustain themselves, and that AC3 might be the last of it's kind in that regard.

Whether or not that last bit is true we'll have to see.

Also, that article reminded me AC3 has that awesome naval battle scene. YAY!

were that the case though I cant see how it would disapear compeltly....i mean the kind of games we have come to expect

voice acted, fully 3d....I don't see how it could dissapear

Not the voice acting or 3D gameworlds, just the big epicness.

I can see how games the size of AC3 - however big it will be - won't be finacially viable to produce anymore come next generation. They won't disappear over night, but I doubt many studios will have the capacity to produce them by then, and will opt for making smaller, multiplayer centric games.

Like I said, can't be sure, but I can see something like that happening in the future.

 

[Vegosiux]

I can see how games the size of AC3 - however big it will be - won't be finacially viable to produce anymore come next generation.

This may seem like a stupid question, but...

What's the rush with the next generation then, if it's going to be worse by all acounts except for graphic whoring?

 

[Casual Shinji]

I can see how games the size of AC3 - however big it will be - won't be finacially viable to produce anymore come next generation.

This may seem like a stupid question, but...

What's the rush with the next generation then, if it's going to be worse by all acounts except for graphic whoring?

Because... people want new things. Progress and whatnot.

If it was up to me I'd let this generation go on for at least another five years, but technology is always advancing and nobody wants to get left behind.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

That...makes absolutely no fuckin' sense.

 

[Vault101]

- however big it will be - won't be finacially viable to produce anymore come next generation. They won't disappear over night, but I doubt many studios will have the capacity to produce them by then, and will opt for making smaller, multiplayer centric games.

Like I said, can't be sure, but I can see something like that happening in the future.

there does seem to be a shift toward F2p which scares the hell out of me

Because... people want new things. Progress and whatnot.

If it was up to me I'd let this generation go on for at least another five years, but technology is always advancing and nobody wants to get left behind.

to be fair though this generation is horribly outdated on a technical level....its overstayed its welcome

not sure what it means for production costs (which is the main issue here) but its not always about "bigger better shineyer graphics" well in a way but there are benefits

That...makes absolutely no fuckin' sense.

yeah...it just seemed a like a whole lot of buzz words stitched together 0_0

 

[Vegosiux]

not sure what it means for production costs (which is the main issue here) but its not always about "bigger better shineyer graphics" well in a way but there are benefits

Well, benefits, such as? I don't see cutting down the size of the game worlds and the variety of experience is a "benefit".

 

[yuval152]

That's a load of crap, why should companies not make big budget games? gives them alot more money.

 

[Vault101]

Well, benefits, such as? I don't see cutting down the size of the game worlds and the variety of experience is a "benefit".

better AI to create a more "organic" experience

not to mention better animations and such..getting over the uncanny valley, of coarse that could come under graphics

 

[Casual Shinji]

Because... people want new things. Progress and whatnot.

If it was up to me I'd let this generation go on for at least another five years, but technology is always advancing and nobody wants to get left behind.

to be fair though this generation is horribly outdated on a technical level....its overstayed its welcome

not sure what it means for production costs (which is the main issue here) but its not always about "bigger better shineyer graphics" well in a way but there are benefits

Yes, but we both know consoles are sold on their bigger, better, shinier graphics. And the current generation is already starting to buckle its knees because of its overbloated budgets. Imagine what the next one is gonna be like.

The fact that EA is saying things like "Dead Space 3 has to sell 5 million copies or else..." and "No more singleplayer certered games" isn't just a sign of them being assholes, it's a sign of the times. And if the next generation continues on the same foot it's always has, I don't see the type of games we know and love lasting too long.

 

[Scrustle]

That's absolutely ridiculous. There's absolutely zero basis for that statement and countless examples proving him wrong. I think it's just marketing hype to get people to think AC3 is going to be this momentous event they're trying to tell us it is, like saying it's a brand new IP and stuff like that.

 

[DoPo]

OK, this is what I got from the article. Note that it doesn't make much sense to me but at least it's something.

What the guy may have meant is that it's the last AAA game with enormous budget and enormous work put in it. He specifically mentions "last of the really expensive-to-produce AAA titles", not the last triple-A game at all. What I figure from his words, he's talking about the following - AC has been going for a while now and it has been successful. So Ubisoft are ready to be less sceptical and more trusting in AC3, to the point that they'll allow quite a bigger undertaking than it's normally expected (the naval battles mention). It's several factors that make the trust in the team possible and that trust means they are given a bigger leeway in what they implement, and as a result the budget needs to be bigger. So, for example, if it was another studio doing the first game of what's supposed to be a AAA game, they wouldn't get nearly as much money to cover the development, and hence it wouldn't have as many features.

Now, that's what I think he's saying. I've got no idea why he's saying it, though. I'm pretty sure other series/studios have the potential to get the same amount of trust from their funder(s) if not more.

But it's not the death of AAA, he's more talking about the death of really expensive AAA. So, I believe that would be "significantly higher than average" expensive not just "lot's of money" a.k.a. AAA-expensive.

 

[Vegosiux]

Well, benefits, such as? I don't see cutting down the size of the game worlds and the variety of experience is a "benefit".

better AI to create a more "organic" experience

not to mention better animations and such..getting over the uncanny valley, of coarse that could come under graphics

Better AI, I could buy that one, but getting over the uncanny valley? I don't see that happening anytime soon, to be honest. That place is deep. I'd say more like the uncanny Marian trench.

And even better AI? If it is as I suspect and next generation will focus even less on single player and more on multiplayer...I'm not sure better AI will be on top of the priority list?

 

[Vault101]

That's absolutely ridiculous. There's absolutely zero basis for that statement and countless examples proving him wrong. I think it's just marketing hype to get people to think AC3 is going to be this momentous event they're trying to tell us it is, like saying it's a brand new IP and stuff like that.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.387381-U-S-Gamer-Population-Is-Declining

*wooo do do do , wooo do do do*[footnote/]thats the twilight zone theme[/footnote]

Yes, but we both know consoles are sold on their bigger, better, shinier graphics. And the current generation is already starting to buckle its knees because of its overbloated budgets. Imagine what the next one is gonna be like.

The fact that EA is saying things like "Dead Space 3 has to sell 5 million copies or else..." and "No more singleplayer certered games" isn't just a sign of them being assholes, it's a sign of the times. And if the next generation continues on the same foot it's always has, I don't see the type of games we know and love lasting too long.

yeah but thats EA...they are just twats period, if its not COD then they'll eather try and make it COD or hang it out to dry

anyway, I dont know enough about gaming development to know where all the cost comes from or what the next gen might mean....I have heard people say it wont be a bad thing in that regard..I don;t know..we seem to be stagnating eather way

 

[Vault101]

Better AI, I could buy that one, but getting over the uncanny valley? I don't see that happening anytime soon, to be honest. That place is deep. I'd say more like the uncanny Marian trench.

And even better AI? If it is as I suspect and next generation will focus even less on single player and more on multiplayer...I'm not sure better AI will be on top of the priority list?

eh...doesn't mean there cant be improvements

like the sex scenes in ME3.....IMO they were tastefully presented and everything..but still had that "awkwardness of models interacting"..in fact ME1 might have even been better than that regard

 

[Zhukov]

Yeeaahh...

He sort of has a point about AAA games and their huge budgets that require risk-free returns and all, but saying AC3 will be the "last AAA game" is just silly. If that aspect of the industry does collapse, and hey, who knows, it might (although I'm not about to hold me breath), then it won't be for at least another couple of years.

I reckon that fellow just went and spilled a bit of marketing hype in his observation.