Here you go. I for one am excited for the whole DaVinci aspect of the game. Whether or not they use it well remains to be seen.shaun1788 said:
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Assassins Creed 2 and it has guns?
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Who's to say how the gun, if it is included, will effect game play. I agree with a few other posters above on the theory of how it'll be more of an ace up the sleeve. There was a gun in the Pirates of the Caribbean game, and it didn't take away or overshadow the game play in the slightest.Barry93 said:
All that said, I'm sure we won't hear Italian guards complaining how that eagle-hooded dude is noob-tubing with an M-16.
It looks to be a very... intimidating weapon to say the least.
Imagine you're Joe Footsoldier in Renaisance Italy, protecting Baron Evilguy, and some guy in a weird cloak walks up, stands in a basic L-stance and holds out his arm.
All of the sudden, there is a loud flash and bang seemingly coming from this guy's hand and Baron Evilguy falls over, quite obviously dead with a hole in his chest.
Firearms aren't common (And you couldn't see that he was holding one), and so likely the last thing you're thinking is 'gun'. More than likely, you're thinking: "Oh my god, he just held out his hand and killed Baron Evilguy! It must be some power given unto him by the Devil. He is powered by the very Legions of Hell! Run for your lives!"
It won't be game-breaking, more than likely, due to the firearm's technical limitations.
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In referance to the "mook chivalry" displayed in AC1, that's actually fairly realistic as well.
Swarmfighting is hard, you're more likely to hit your buddy with the long, sharp lethal piece of metal than the guy who you're aiming for. You don't want to do his work for him.
Also, note how they surround Altair, wait, feint, and genrally employ swordfighting tactics. It's only by virtue of the third-person camera perspective that you're able to live during the fights, which could be seen as indicative of Altair's supernatural awareness of his surroundings.
I think the combat was well-handled in the first one, and see no reason for it to not be so in the second.
Plus, if you're really in the mood for a challange, try killing in combat with nothing but Hidden Blade counters after you've unlocked counterattacks. Seriously, I think I've pulled one or two off, on purpose, ever. I mostly just threw 'im down and stabbed 'im.
Imagine you're Joe Footsoldier in Renaisance Italy, protecting Baron Evilguy, and some guy in a weird cloak walks up, stands in a basic L-stance and holds out his arm.
All of the sudden, there is a loud flash and bang seemingly coming from this guy's hand and Baron Evilguy falls over, quite obviously dead with a hole in his chest.
Firearms aren't common (And you couldn't see that he was holding one), and so likely the last thing you're thinking is 'gun'. More than likely, you're thinking: "Oh my god, he just held out his hand and killed Baron Evilguy! It must be some power given unto him by the Devil. He is powered by the very Legions of Hell! Run for your lives!"
It won't be game-breaking, more than likely, due to the firearm's technical limitations.
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In referance to the "mook chivalry" displayed in AC1, that's actually fairly realistic as well.
Swarmfighting is hard, you're more likely to hit your buddy with the long, sharp lethal piece of metal than the guy who you're aiming for. You don't want to do his work for him.
Also, note how they surround Altair, wait, feint, and genrally employ swordfighting tactics. It's only by virtue of the third-person camera perspective that you're able to live during the fights, which could be seen as indicative of Altair's supernatural awareness of his surroundings.
I think the combat was well-handled in the first one, and see no reason for it to not be so in the second.
Plus, if you're really in the mood for a challange, try killing in combat with nothing but Hidden Blade counters after you've unlocked counterattacks. Seriously, I think I've pulled one or two off, on purpose, ever. I mostly just threw 'im down and stabbed 'im.
looked to me like he used his hidden blade to launch a crusifix into the guy's throat, but yeah i doubt you'll be able to rapid fire it or anything. it will probably just replace the thrown blades. or it might not be there. remember the crossbow?
By the way this historically correct thing that everybody keeps talking about it seems nonsense considering the original game was based on a group that was completely muslim that I guess faught against the crusaders but i doubt were ever in Italy. Unless they explained that at E3 because i haven't seen that yet.
Edit: Actually is based on a book about the actual hisorical events. Not the DNA reading machine of course.
Edit: Actually is based on a book about the actual hisorical events. Not the DNA reading machine of course.
Oh come on, I know what a fucking halberd is, if you actually used those things on your face called eyes, you'd see that I was talking about stealth.flying-emu said:
Somebody said the gun wasnt stealthy. I said things didn't need to be stealthy, theres a halberd.
I don't think a flintlock pistol would unbalance the game and considering it's location, it's going to take half an hour to reload with one hand. One shot per mission?
On an unrelated note, why did all the "quote" "reply" "report" and "new topic" buttons disappear except for the quick reply box at the bottom of the thread?
On an unrelated note, why did all the "quote" "reply" "report" and "new topic" buttons disappear except for the quick reply box at the bottom of the thread?
Ok, first of all assassins don't necessarily have to be stealthy. Second, it is entirely possible for there to be guns, since they were available in the renaissance, and lastly the concealed gun is fine in the context of them having advanced technology for the time setting.
Guns?
I'm out.
I think guns ruined all the interesting part of war.
"Stand, Aim, and JUST SHOOT!"
Before guns it was interesting because it was parrying, striking, countering...etc..
I'm out.
I think guns ruined all the interesting part of war.
"Stand, Aim, and JUST SHOOT!"
Before guns it was interesting because it was parrying, striking, countering...etc..
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Anyway, the OP gave me the impression that he thought it's going to be a near-third-person shooter with guns being a major gameplay mechanic. I highly doubt that...most of the guards won't have guns, as the technology was rather large in size and pretty unreliable. Ezio's gun is more like the equivalent of a derringer...a weapon for use in dire circumstances, and designed to scare an opponent off or be good enough for one or MAYBE two shots. Sort of like a counterpart to the hidden blade...the Assassin is not as unarmed as you think.